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Topic: Symphonic Metal Heaven
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Subject: Symphonic Metal Heaven
Date Posted: November 20 2019 at 16:47

Symphonic metal is a subgenre of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_music" rel="nofollow - - orchestral https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_music" rel="nofollow - - power metal are also sometimes featured.

Symphonic metal bands often feature classically trained female vocalists, giving rise to the nickname opera metal or operatic metal, and it is not uncommon for them to feature a second vocalist performing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_growl" rel="nofollow - - gothic metal . Perhaps the most typical and prominent examples of symphonic metal bands are Dutch bands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epica_%28band%29" rel="nofollow - - Within Temptation , Finnish band https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightwish" rel="nofollow - - Therion . All four bands place a large focus on elements prevalent in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_score" rel="nofollow -

 



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Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 08:00
KC & the Sunshine Band aside, you keep finding genres and artists we have in common. 

I LOOOOOVE symphonic metal!

For me, the greatest album ever in the genre is Within Temptation's Black Symphony.  Nightwish, Epica, Delain... all marvelous acts!

In addition, I have a fair amount of Xandria, Sirenia, After Forever, Diabulus in Musica, Edenbridge, and Leaves Eyes in my collection.  I also like Kamelot, but this is one genre where I really prefer the female fronted bands.  

Here's a great one where you get two for the price of one.... Sharon Den Adel and Tarja Turunen together!




Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 08:19
^^ Many thanks for posting that amazing video from the two goddesses of Symphonic Metal - Sharon Den Adel & Tarja Turunen. I love female-fronted Symphonic Metal bands and Within Temptation and Nightwish are two of my favourite bands in the genre. I also like all of those other bands you mentioned too. Thumbs Up
 
Sorry about KC & the Sunshine Band. Wink It was only because KC shares his initials with King Crimson that I even thought of them, otherwise I might have chosen Donna Summer to open my Disco thread instead. Smile


Posted By: TheH
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 08:34
I would recommend the following Albums:
 
The Gathering - Mandylion (Anneke van Giersbergen on vocals) (Dutch band)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HUMwinV2AQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HUMwinV2AQ
Akin (they only have two Albums) (Adeline Gürtner on vocals) (French Band)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqeOtc7Dv1I" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqeOtc7Dv1I
Alchem (way darker, from Italy)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOnuOPlkua0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOnuOPlkua0
 


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 10:44
Originally posted by TheH TheH wrote:

I would recommend the following Albums:
 
The Gathering - Mandylion (Anneke van Giersbergen on vocals) (Dutch band)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HUMwinV2AQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HUMwinV2AQ
Akin (they only have two Albums) (Adeline Gürtner on vocals) (French Band)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqeOtc7Dv1I" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqeOtc7Dv1I
Alchem (way darker, from Italy)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOnuOPlkua0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOnuOPlkua0
 


I don't think The Gathering are symphonic metal like Nightwish and the rest of the bands mentioned above. Mandylion was a gothic/doom album and so was the next one Nighttime Birds.




Posted By: TheH
Date Posted: November 22 2019 at 02:04
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by TheH TheH wrote:

I would recommend the following Albums:
 
The Gathering - Mandylion (Anneke van Giersbergen on vocals) (Dutch band)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HUMwinV2AQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HUMwinV2AQ
Akin (they only have two Albums) (Adeline Gürtner on vocals) (French Band)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqeOtc7Dv1I" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqeOtc7Dv1I
Alchem (way darker, from Italy)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOnuOPlkua0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOnuOPlkua0
 


I don't think The Gathering are symphonic metal like Nightwish and the rest of the bands mentioned above. Mandylion was a gothic/doom album and so was the next one Nighttime Birds.
 
They are less operatic than the others. But all the bands emtioned have a strong Gothic touch,
Within Temptation where even a full blown Gothic Metal band on their first Album.
 
I simply see The Gathering being very important for the trend of female fronted Metal bands
with Prog touches.


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 22 2019 at 03:45
Originally posted by TheH TheH wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by TheH TheH wrote:

I would recommend the following Albums:
 
The Gathering - Mandylion (Anneke van Giersbergen on vocals) (Dutch band)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HUMwinV2AQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HUMwinV2AQ
Akin (they only have two Albums) (Adeline Gürtner on vocals) (French Band)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqeOtc7Dv1I" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqeOtc7Dv1I
Alchem (way darker, from Italy)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOnuOPlkua0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOnuOPlkua0
 


I don't think The Gathering are symphonic metal like Nightwish and the rest of the bands mentioned above. Mandylion was a gothic/doom album and so was the next one Nighttime Birds.
 
They are less operatic than the others. But all the bands emtioned have a strong Gothic touch,
Within Temptation where even a full blown Gothic Metal band on their first Album.
 
I simply see The Gathering being very important for the trend of female fronted Metal bands
with Prog touches.


All I meant is that I wouldn't put The Gathering together with Nightwish and the rest.
I agree with your last sentence. I also find once they left the metal behind, they became even more unique, they dared eperiment and they did a fine job.


Posted By: TheH
Date Posted: November 23 2019 at 10:47
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by TheH TheH wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by TheH TheH wrote:

I would recommend the following Albums:
 
The Gathering - Mandylion (Anneke van Giersbergen on vocals) (Dutch band)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HUMwinV2AQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HUMwinV2AQ
Akin (they only have two Albums) (Adeline Gürtner on vocals) (French Band)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqeOtc7Dv1I" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqeOtc7Dv1I
Alchem (way darker, from Italy)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOnuOPlkua0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOnuOPlkua0
 


I don't think The Gathering are symphonic metal like Nightwish and the rest of the bands mentioned above. Mandylion was a gothic/doom album and so was the next one Nighttime Birds.
 
They are less operatic than the others. But all the bands emtioned have a strong Gothic touch,
Within Temptation where even a full blown Gothic Metal band on their first Album.
 
I simply see The Gathering being very important for the trend of female fronted Metal bands
with Prog touches.


All I meant is that I wouldn't put The Gathering together with Nightwish and the rest.
I agree with your last sentence. I also find once they left the metal behind, they became even more unique, they dared eperiment and they did a fine job.
 
Yes they where great, to sad they never managed to really replace Anneke.


Posted By: TheH
Date Posted: November 23 2019 at 11:14
Other lesser known bands
 
 
 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 23 2019 at 11:23
^^ Thanks for posting. They're definitely lesser-known bands to me, as this is the first time I've heard of them. Smile


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 28 2019 at 10:19
EDENBRIDGE - Live in Germany (2004)
 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 18 2020 at 11:26
I've just restored Epica's epic "We Will Take You with Us" at the top of this page for any Symphonic Metal fans out there. Smile


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 29 2020 at 09:11
I just discovered this superb version of Genesis' Entangled by the Brazilian Symphonic Metal band, Hydria. Thumbs Up
 


Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 29 2020 at 10:03
One of the first to do this kind of 'extreme' cross over (other than ELP of course) was Klaus Nomi. But the more popular one was this.
(Gotta Love the 80's)




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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 29 2020 at 10:10
Variations of a Theme.









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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 29 2020 at 10:18
One last one for the family blood.




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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 29 2020 at 10:53
^ That's bagpipes with attitude! Smile


Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: October 29 2020 at 10:55
^^You post two covers of Thunderstruck, and then the Goddesses of the Bagpipes with the Snake Charmer, but not post this?



Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 29 2020 at 12:41
The music is good but it's this that caught my eye.




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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 08 2022 at 03:36
Inspired by Cristi's Progressive Metal polls, Symphonic Metal Heaven is back by unpopular demand. Tongue

Now, I just need to find the Symphonic Metal poll that goes with it. Ermm


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 08 2022 at 03:40
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Inspired by Cristi's Progressive Metal polls, Symphonic Metal Heaven is back by unpopular demand. Tongue

Now, I just need to find the Symphonic Metal poll that goes with it. Ermm

gimme a break with " inspired by Cristi", this is an old thread from 2019. 
Stop trolling, please. 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 23 2022 at 07:32
Symphonic Metal: A-Z Album Links

 4 stars 1999: Aesma Daeva - Here Lies One Whose Name Was Written in Water -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nQLLfKq6zQMJO1jkECUxSjjBtJuHAowEk" rel="nofollow -  4 stars 2001: Aesma Daeva - The Eros of Frigid Beauty -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzvYIr94fNg" rel="nofollow -  4 stars 2003: Aesma Daeva - The New Athens Ethos -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9l1XHVds40" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9l1XHVds40
 4 stars 2005: Aesma Daeva - Ex Libris -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suZ2IOuWA-w" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suZ2IOuWA-w
 4 stars 2007: Aesma Daeva - Dawn of the New Athens -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kWP_gny6EGSg1J5sQn08U6AAGO55KRNss" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kWP_gny6EGSg1J5sQn08U6AAGO55KRNss

 4 stars 2000: After Forever - Prison of Desire -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUg8XbTFjoz2o5DyyDEYdd36IwcMcf6Yf" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUg8XbTFjoz2o5DyyDEYdd36IwcMcf6Yf
 3 stars 2001: After Forever - Decipher -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44BNkccoluU" rel="nofollow -  3 stars 2004: After Forever - Invisible Circles -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezd3zzMqCDU" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezd3zzMqCDU
 4 stars 2005: After Forever - Remagine -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOkKAe_Lj1E" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOkKAe_Lj1E
 3 stars 2007: After Forever - After Forever -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw9aKQO1O6o" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw9aKQO1O6o

 3 stars 1996: Apocalyptica - Plays Metallica by Four Cellos -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nZbMSDX9L8HTUM-b83QRzgta_-NplwLFY" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nZbMSDX9L8HTUM-b83QRzgta_-NplwLFY
 3 stars 1998: Apocalyptica - Inquisition Symphony -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nC4-uF__MNnfoGKWrQ61FN0CoxLUeYRTs" rel="nofollow -  3 stars 2000: Apocalyptica - Cult -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_luQAF3VQjqDJl19ESEpmU_fNOu3f7xoyU" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_luQAF3VQjqDJl19ESEpmU_fNOu3f7xoyU
 3 stars 2003: Apocalyptica - Reflections -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePcckx4x3Uc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePcckx4x3Uc
 3 stars 2005: Apocalyptica - Apocalyptica -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8wgaiDevXMA6eDp_G1pTo9gz7l76VjRt" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8wgaiDevXMA6eDp_G1pTo9gz7l76VjRt
 2 stars 2007: Apocalyptica - Worlds Collide -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mGGP0R_Xrc-xxAutap1g-ivOveco3yCrc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mGGP0R_Xrc-xxAutap1g-ivOveco3yCrc
 3 stars 2010: Apocalyptica - 7th Symphony -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjkkzmIReqgkWnC4n4qVX1Vex9GoAId8x" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjkkzmIReqgkWnC4n4qVX1Vex9GoAId8x
 3 stars 2015: Apocalyptica - Shadowmaker -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mZFBTV-vQbGNzdwOw_VHI6HjnFdFC-Qqs" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mZFBTV-vQbGNzdwOw_VHI6HjnFdFC-Qqs
 3 stars 2020: Apocalyptica - Cell-0 -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n_R5R7LRPpXlhCJ4IoDDOfNqvIONpcpAg" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n_R5R7LRPpXlhCJ4IoDDOfNqvIONpcpAg

                  2010: Ancient Bards - The Alliance of the Kings -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n4DQUDNEdbh584OzvgrJKWB7FSbgs5sAo" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n4DQUDNEdbh584OzvgrJKWB7FSbgs5sAo
                  2011: Ancient Bards - Soulless Child -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mhxjRGVhc5Z2xGub6pO8wrwECJiG9nqTE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mhxjRGVhc5Z2xGub6pO8wrwECJiG9nqTE
                  2014: Ancient Bards - A New Dawn Ending -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_msFhagIXphI8EwTY_i78cNTP1U8GFm0dI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_msFhagIXphI8EwTY_i78cNTP1U8GFm0dI
                  2019: Ancient Bards - The Black Crystal Sword Saga, Part 2 -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m0Sqom1yZarpunTPg4ny3ZdSwljX8GgWw" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m0Sqom1yZarpunTPg4ny3ZdSwljX8GgWw

                  2006: Angtoria - God Has a Plan for Us All -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kWHiXsVSebj4G7kFys2CE5krGwt-bUrcc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kWHiXsVSebj4G7kFys2CE5krGwt-bUrcc

 3 stars 1996: Apocalyptica - Plays Metallica by Four Cellos -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nZbMSDX9L8HTUM-b83QRzgta_-NplwLFY" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nZbMSDX9L8HTUM-b83QRzgta_-NplwLFY
 3 stars 1998: Apocalyptica - Inquisition Symphony -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nC4-uF__MNnfoGKWrQ61FN0CoxLUeYRTs" rel="nofollow -  3 stars 2000: Apocalyptica - Cult -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_luQAF3VQjqDJl19ESEpmU_fNOu3f7xoyU" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_luQAF3VQjqDJl19ESEpmU_fNOu3f7xoyU
 3 stars 2003: Apocalyptica - Reflections -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePcckx4x3Uc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePcckx4x3Uc
 3 stars 2005: Apocalyptica - Apocalyptica -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8wgaiDevXMA6eDp_G1pTo9gz7l76VjRt" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8wgaiDevXMA6eDp_G1pTo9gz7l76VjRt
 2 stars 2007: Apocalyptica - Worlds Collide -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mGGP0R_Xrc-xxAutap1g-ivOveco3yCrc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mGGP0R_Xrc-xxAutap1g-ivOveco3yCrc
 3 stars 2010: Apocalyptica - 7th Symphony -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjkkzmIReqgkWnC4n4qVX1Vex9GoAId8x" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjkkzmIReqgkWnC4n4qVX1Vex9GoAId8x
 3 stars 2015: Apocalyptica - Shadowmaker -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mZFBTV-vQbGNzdwOw_VHI6HjnFdFC-Qqs" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mZFBTV-vQbGNzdwOw_VHI6HjnFdFC-Qqs
 3 stars 2020: Apocalyptica - Cell-0 -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n_R5R7LRPpXlhCJ4IoDDOfNqvIONpcpAg" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n_R5R7LRPpXlhCJ4IoDDOfNqvIONpcpAg

 4 stars 2011: Arven - Music of Light -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kpt-9pltT3ze5wc1vgmFLeOmabeU1q9DY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kpt-9pltT3ze5wc1vgmFLeOmabeU1q9DY
 4 stars 2013: Arven - Black is the Colour -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k_tBsN6q1I2tggdDA4jaP9xAJzd5A8Gy8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k_tBsN6q1I2tggdDA4jaP9xAJzd5A8Gy8
                  
 4 stars 2002: Autumn - When Lust Evokes the Curse -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mwySoxpb_UZwPgMqQiZ0q2JfqKqk1AfZo" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mwySoxpb_UZwPgMqQiZ0q2JfqKqk1AfZo
 4 stars 2004: Autumn - Summer's End -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF3uAJcqHV4" rel="nofollow -  4 stars 2007: Autumn - My New Time -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kTBxpirF2ofb7pJ-fQ4cXX5HWCFP5e-tk" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kTBxpirF2ofb7pJ-fQ4cXX5HWCFP5e-tk
 4 stars 2009: Autumn - Altitude -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kDhdYn6k4-aHFQ_BQyqHHJJtE7-DQUJIg" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kDhdYn6k4-aHFQ_BQyqHHJJtE7-DQUJIg
 4 stars 2011: Autumn - Cold Comfort -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kJsmOif4Hb0F2n6Y63XYNc2OxFa4PsyCo" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kJsmOif4Hb0F2n6Y63XYNc2OxFa4PsyCo
 4 stars 2019: Autumn - Stacking Smoke -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ngBhArXe6yS2v62Dk3TIHs_3sgfZc8_UQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ngBhArXe6yS2v62Dk3TIHs_3sgfZc8_UQ   

 3 stars  2001: Avantasia - The Metal Opera -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lF-B9uiduLZQ2s33AqCXTDgb6KLKTQb4I" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lF-B9uiduLZQ2s33AqCXTDgb6KLKTQb4I  
 4 stars  2002: Avantasia - The Metal Opera Part II -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8ZX-ND3WnA&t=2669s" rel="nofollow -  4 stars  2008: Avantasia - The Scarecrow -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l0lFHKQa4jtttZ6fxMidToj6rmlSHoAjw" rel="nofollow -  4 stars  2010: Avantasia - The Wicked Symphony -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l3IQW4JSKledA-4yEYdR3DcdoIP8ZXtMo" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l3IQW4JSKledA-4yEYdR3DcdoIP8ZXtMo
 4 stars  2010: Avantasia - Angel of Babylon -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kGnhISqu_U_1MuLyG3qW0aYkc_UVKTGTM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kGnhISqu_U_1MuLyG3qW0aYkc_UVKTGTM  
 3 stars  2013: Avantasia - The Mystery of Time -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kZk3Ax2eBf2njEm8k8pjnmNxpxFIbsFwQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kZk3Ax2eBf2njEm8k8pjnmNxpxFIbsFwQ
 3 stars  2016: Avantasia - Ghostlights -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbAX2mGcq9WwVe9jmmKl6TrRZBjalSc38" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbAX2mGcq9WwVe9jmmKl6TrRZBjalSc38
 4 stars  2019: Avantasia - Moonglow -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kPwjxBpZnTzij4-M6cyEACfzVD1dc5wKA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kPwjxBpZnTzij4-M6cyEACfzVD1dc5wKA
 3 stars  2022: Avantasia - A Paranormal Evening with the Moonflower Society -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kJduu8qL7qpMkd-ITUpZKFILIB81ynFTs" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kJduu8qL7qpMkd-ITUpZKFILIB81ynFTs
           
                  


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 24 2022 at 02:21
A-Z of Symphonic Metal (fully updated with 100+ artists & 500+ albums)


                  2002: Battlelore - Where the Shadows Lie
                  2003: Battlelore - Sword's Song
                  2005: Battlelore - Third Age of the Sun
                  2007: Battlelore - Evernight
                  2008: Battlelore - The Last Alliance
                  2011: Battlelore - Doombound

                  2015: Beyond the Black - Songs of Love and Death
                  2016: Beyond the Black - Lost in Forever
                  2018: Beyond the Black - Heart of the Hurricane
                  2020: Beyond the Black - Horizons


               


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 24 2022 at 10:28
^ & ^^
I said to myself I won't be posting in this thread or the poll, but these lists are so inaccurate, it bothers me, i don't even know why. Wherever you are copying these lists from, they're not doing a good job. 

First of all, progressive metal and symphonic metal are two different genres, why put them together?! 

Second, a lot of the bands mentioned there are not symphonic metal:

Allen/Lande can be considered power metal at best, it's melodic heavy metal.
Ayreon (and whatever other Arjen projects) are not symphonic metal. 

The Beyond is an obscure progressive metal band, difficult to find, what's it doing here? (proof you're just copying titles, say it isn't so). 

Eye for an Eye & The Edge are by a band called Twilight whose keyboardist will go on and form Beyond Twilight much later. 

Blind Guardian is a power metal band, they even started as a speed metal band, same as Helloween. They have symphonic elements, but cannot be considered a symphonic metal band (like After Forever, Epica and Nightwish and the likes). 

Wherever you copy these titles, find better resources, like metalmusicarchives and/or metal storm


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 24 2022 at 12:10
^ Thanks for your valued input, Cristi, as you're far more knowledgeable about Progressive Metal than I am. There'd be little point in me just copying lists from Metal Archives  I compiled these lists between 2013 & 2015 entirely independently of ProgArchives & MetalArchives.  To be honest, I've listed Progressive Metal & Symphonic Metal together here, just so I could include two of my favourite Prog Metal bands: Ayreon & Dream Theater.  I'm using your Progressive Metal poll list as a helpful guide too with a little help from Wikipedia. Thumbs Up


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 24 2022 at 12:24
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Thanks for your valued input, Cristi, as you're far more knowledgeable about Progressive Metal than I am. There'd be little point in me just copying lists from Metal Archives  I compiled these lists between 2013 & 2015 entirely independently of ProgArchives & MetalArchives.  To be honest, I've listed Progressive Metal & Symphonic Metal together here, just so I could include two of my favourite Prog Metal bands: Ayreon & Dream Theater.  I'm using your Progressive Metal poll list as a helpful guide too with a little help from Wikipedia. Thumbs Up

If you say you are using my list of bands, first I say try and listen to a few songs from each band if you want to see what's it all about, see what you like or what you dislike (and i believe you would like some and dislike some). 

Also metal archives and metalmusicarchives are two different sites. 

Also have look at this:
https://metalstorm.net/bands/index.php" rel="nofollow - https://metalstorm.net/bands/index.php



Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 24 2022 at 13:18
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Thanks for your valued input, Cristi, as you're far more knowledgeable about Progressive Metal than I am. There'd be little point in me just copying lists from Metal Archives  I compiled these lists between 2013 & 2015 entirely independently of ProgArchives & MetalArchives.  To be honest, I've listed Progressive Metal & Symphonic Metal together here, just so I could include two of my favourite Prog Metal bands: Ayreon & Dream Theater.  I'm using your Progressive Metal poll list as a helpful guide too with a little help from Wikipedia. Thumbs Up

If you say you are using my list of bands, first I say try and listen to a few songs from each band if you want to see what's it all about, see what you like or what you dislike (and i believe you would like some and dislike some). 

Also metal archives and metalmusicarchives are two different sites. 

lso have look at this:
https://metalstorm.net/bands/index.php" rel="nofollow - https://metalstorm.net/bands/index.php
That's good advice. I've been gradually working my way through listening to the debut albums in my Symphonic Metal poll, and so far, I like Aesma Daeva, After Forever, Amberian Dawn, Delain & Ayreon (obviously!), but I'm not so keen on Apocalyptica and Avantasia, so five out of seven ain't bad - if you'll allow me to paraphrase Meatloaf. Smile


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 25 2022 at 12:06
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:


The Beyond is an obscure progressive metal band, difficult to find, what's it doing here? (proof you're just copying titles, say it isn't so). 

 
I listened to The Beyond for the first time today and it's beyond me why I even added them in the first place as I didn't like them at all, so I've happily deleted them from my listings, making them even more obscure than ever now. Tongue


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 25 2022 at 12:12
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

The Beyond is an obscure progressive metal band, difficult to find, what's it doing here? (proof you're just copying titles, say it isn't so). 

 
I listened to The Beyond for the first time today and it's beyond me why I even added them in the first place as I didn't like them at all, so I've happily deleted them from my listings, making them even more obscure than ever now. Tongue

where did you listen? Are their albums on youtube? 
Can you post listening links then? 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 25 2022 at 12:19
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

The Beyond is an obscure progressive metal band, difficult to find, what's it doing here? (proof you're just copying titles, say it isn't so). 

 
I listened to The Beyond for the first time today and it's beyond me why I even added them in the first place as I didn't like them at all, so I've happily deleted them from my listings, making them even more obscure than ever now. Tongue

where did you listen? Are their albums on youtube? 
Can you post listening links then? 
 
Gladly! Big smile
 
2 stars  1991: The Beyond - The Crawl - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP-LgxRc_GDz5ShYBlRw_ybMTjKtIQYjK" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP-LgxRc_GDz5ShYBlRw_ybMTjKtIQYjK
2 stars  1993: The Beyond - Chasm - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP-LgxRc_GDz53DD6bc54Kr4neRuZKjwc" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP-LgxRc_GDz53DD6bc54Kr4neRuZKjwc


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 26 2022 at 05:59
A-Z of Symphonic Metal (fully updated with 100+ artists & 500+ albums)


3 stars  2006: Christopher Lee - Revelation -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpJj1XsVZ1MxUyFoHJtziyGX" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpJj1XsVZ1MxUyFoHJtziyGX
4 stars  2010: Christopher Lee - Charlemagne: By the Sword and the Cross -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpJa8ajJlaMO_ZEZ4SjXOxcS" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpJa8ajJlaMO_ZEZ4SjXOxcS
4 stars  2013: Christopher Lee - Charlemagne: The Omens of Death -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpICfOi256pqU_IIc5-eAsFT" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpICfOi256pqU_IIc5-eAsFT

                  2007: Coronatus - Lux Noctis
                  2008: Coronatus - Porta Obscura
                  2009: Coronatus - Fabula Magna
                  2011: Coronatus - Terra Incognita
                  2013: Coronatus - Recreatio Carminis
                  2014: Coronatus - Cantus Lucidus
                  2015: Coronatus - Raben im Herz
                  2017: Coronatus - Secrets in Nature
                  2019: Coronatus - The Eminence of Nature
                  2021: Coronatus - Atmosphere
                             
                  2007: Crimson Tears - The Dark Awakening

                  


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 26 2022 at 06:15
^ I've never heard of Coronatus or Crimson Tears(I will look them up), but the other three are not symphonic metal.  

So you've chosen to ignore me. 
Symphonic metal is not a progressive metal subgenre, associating these two genre is so messy, it's oranges and potatoes. Makes very little sense. 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 26 2022 at 06:37
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ I've never heard of Coronatus or Crimson Tears(I will look them up), but the other three are not symphonic metal.  

So you've chosen to ignore me. 
Symphonic metal is not a progressive metal subgenre, associating these two genre is so messy, it's oranges and potatoes. Makes very little sense. 
I never claimed Circus Maximus and Conception are Symphonic Metal. I found them in your Progressive Metal poll. Big smile

I only discovered Coronatus today and they sound pretty good too! Thumbs Up



Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 26 2022 at 07:24
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ I've never heard of Coronatus or Crimson Tears(I will look them up), but the other three are not symphonic metal.  

So you've chosen to ignore me. 
Symphonic metal is not a progressive metal subgenre, associating these two genre is so messy, it's oranges and potatoes. Makes very little sense. 
I never claimed Circus Maximus and Conception are Symphonic Metal. I found them in your Progressive Metal poll. Big smile

I only discovered Coronatus today and they sound pretty good too! Thumbs Up


Not what I meant.
Symphonic metal and progressive metal are two different things. I thought i made it clear in my previous post. Even within progressive metal, there are different sounds, styles. 

So your lists make no sense.   


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 26 2022 at 08:01
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ I've never heard of Coronatus or Crimson Tears(I will look them up), but the other three are not symphonic metal.  

So you've chosen to ignore me. 
Symphonic metal is not a progressive metal subgenre, associating these two genre is so messy, it's oranges and potatoes. Makes very little sense. 
I never claimed Circus Maximus and Conception are Symphonic Metal. I found them in your Progressive Metal poll. Big smile

I only discovered Coronatus today and they sound pretty good too! Thumbs Up


Not what I meant.
Symphonic metal and progressive metal are two different things. I thought i made it clear in my previous post. Even within progressive metal, there are different sounds, styles. 

I agree. There's a lot of crossover between Progressive & Symphonic Metal, especially in the case of Ayreon. Wink


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 26 2022 at 08:06
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ I've never heard of Coronatus or Crimson Tears(I will look them up), but the other three are not symphonic metal.  

So you've chosen to ignore me. 
Symphonic metal is not a progressive metal subgenre, associating these two genre is so messy, it's oranges and potatoes. Makes very little sense. 
I never claimed Circus Maximus and Conception are Symphonic Metal. I found them in your Progressive Metal poll. Big smile

I only discovered Coronatus today and they sound pretty good too! Thumbs Up


Not what I meant.
Symphonic metal and progressive metal are two different things. I thought i made it clear in my previous post. Even within progressive metal, there are different sounds, styles. 

I agree. There's a lot of crossover between Progressive & Symphonic Metal, especially in the case of Ayreon. Wink

I've just said the opposite in my previous posts. 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 26 2022 at 08:50
^ Combining Progressive Metal & Symphonic Metal together here is a good way for me to discover new music, is it not, just as I "discovered" Dimmu Borgir this morning, although I rather wish I hadn't. Tongue


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 26 2022 at 08:58
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Combining Progressive Metal & Symphonic Metal together here is a good way for me to discover new music, is it not, just as I "discovered" Dimmu Borgir this morning, although I rather wish I hadn't. Tongue

but you don't know the difference between them, so how's it gonna work for you? 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 26 2022 at 09:08
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Combining Progressive Metal & Symphonic Metal together here is a good way for me to discover new music, is it not, just as I "discovered" Dimmu Borgir this morning, although I rather wish I hadn't. Tongue

but you don't know the difference between them, so how's it gonna work for you? 
In theory, combining the two similar Metal genres together means I get to discover twice as much music. I've only listened to Dimmu Borgir's first album so far, so maybe I was too quick to judge them, based on what Archisorcerus and Logan have since told me, where they become more symphonic as you delve further into their discography. Dimmu Borgir's later albums are almost bound to be an improvement on their dismal first album. Smile


Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: February 26 2022 at 09:17
^ Paul, here are 2 videos (one of them, live) from Dimmu Borgir. They are among the finest in symphonic metal IMO. But evil. Evil Smile






Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 26 2022 at 09:19
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Combining Progressive Metal & Symphonic Metal together here is a good way for me to discover new music, is it not, just as I "discovered" Dimmu Borgir this morning, although I rather wish I hadn't. Tongue

but you don't know the difference between them, so how's it gonna work for you? 
In theory, combining the two similar Metal genres together means I get to discover twice as much music. I've only listened to Dimmu Borgir's first album so far, so maybe I was too quick to judge them, based on what Archisorcerus and Logan have since told me, where they become more symphonic as you delve further into their discography. Dimmu Borgir's later albums are almost bound to be an improvement on their dismal first album. Smile

Again, you either are trolling or not paying attention. 
Progressive metal and symphonic metal are not similar genres. 

Logan and Ozgur listen to a bit of metal, you, not so much.
Dimmu Borgir are symphonic black metal, I very much doubt you're gonna enjoy any of their works. The black metal part of it is always there. 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 26 2022 at 09:30
Here's a  quick preview of who's coming up tomorrow:-

The Dark Element
Dark Moor
Dark Sarah
Death
Delain
Devin Townsend
Devin Townsend Band
Devin Townsend Project
Diabulus in Musica
Dimmu Borgir
Dol Ammad
Dragonland
Dragony
Dream Theater
Dreamtale

I have a bad feeling I'm not gong to like the sound of Death at all, bearing in mind their first album is titled "Scream Bloody Gore" Dead


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 26 2022 at 09:35
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Here's a  quick preview of who's coming up tomorrow:-

The Dark Element
Dark Moor
Dark Sarah
Death
Delain
Devin Townsend
Devin Townsend Band
Devin Townsend Project
Diabulus in Musica
Dimmu Borgir
Dol Ammad
Dragonland
Dragony
Dream Theater
Dreamtale

I have a bad feeling I'm not gong to like the sound of Death at all, bearing in mind their first album is titled "Scream Bloody Gore" Dead

take out Death, Dream Theater and Devin Townsend. 


Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: February 26 2022 at 09:39
You two seem to be busy with each other as always... LOL But, I hope Paul saw the videos I linked at the bottom of the previous page. Smile


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 26 2022 at 10:47
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Here's a  quick preview of who's coming up tomorrow:-

The Dark Element
Dark Moor
Dark Sarah
Death
Delain
Devin Townsend
Devin Townsend Band
Devin Townsend Project
Diabulus in Musica
Dimmu Borgir
Dol Ammad
Dragonland
Dragony
Dream Theater
Dreamtale

I have a bad feeling I'm not gong to like the sound of Death at all, bearing in mind their first album is titled "Scream Bloody Gore" Dead

take out Death, Dream Theater and Devin Townsend. 
I've never been keen on Death, so I'd be happy to remove it from my listings, but are you seriously suggesting I drop Dream Theater too!?? Wacko That's Astonishing! I'll Fall into Infinity before I do that. Removing Dream Theater from my listings would be A Dramatic Turn of Events and would most likely result in Systematic Chaos in the PA forums. Tongue 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 26 2022 at 13:29
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

take out Death, Dream Theater and Devin Townsend. 
I'll happily drop Devin Townsend from my listings too, having just listened to one of their godawful albums for the first time. Thumbs Down Thumbs Down Thumbs Down

There's absolutely NO WAY I'm dropping Dream Theater though. Big smile


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 26 2022 at 14:26
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

take out Death, Dream Theater and Devin Townsend. 
I'll happily drop Devin Townsend from my listings too, having just listened to one of their godawful albums for the first time. Thumbs Down Thumbs Down Thumbs Down

There's absolutely NO WAY I'm dropping Dream Theater though. Big smile

just because you don't like it, it does not mean it's godawful. That's disrespectful on so many levels. 

Dream Theater being talked on a symphonic metal thread is just wrong, that's why they don't belong in this thread. 

You stubbornly don't listen to anyone. I gave you examples of reliable sites that explain what symphonic metal is, I posted a link for you of list of symphonic metal bands. You chose to ignore it all. 

Once you understand the difference between these metal subgenres, you can start making lists, otherwise, you're doing it all wrong. 


Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: February 26 2022 at 14:34
Paul, these are MS's top 100 Symph Metal albums... you won't find any DT on there:

http://metalstorm.net/bands/albums_top.php?album_style=Symphonic" rel="nofollow - https://metalstorm.net/bands/albums_top.php?album_style=Symphonic


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 26 2022 at 14:37
Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Paul, these are MS's top 100 Symph Metal albums... you won't find any DT on there:

http://metalstorm.net/bands/albums_top.php?album_style=Symphonic" rel="nofollow - https://metalstorm.net/bands/albums_top.php?album_style=Symphonic

nice, thank you!
Maybe he'll learn something now. 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 26 2022 at 15:39
Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Paul, these are MS's top 100 Symph Metal albums... you won't find any DT on there:

http://metalstorm.net/bands/albums_top.php?album_style=Symphonic" rel="nofollow - https://metalstorm.net/bands/albums_top.php?album_style=Symphonic
I never claimed Dream Theater are a Symphonic Metal band, so I wouldn't expect to find them on a Symphonic Metal list.  Dream Theater are a Progressive Metal band, as everyone here agrees, and I'll be adding them to my Progressive & Symphonic Metal list tomorrow. Wink


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 26 2022 at 15:46
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Paul, these are MS's top 100 Symph Metal albums... you won't find any DT on there:

http://metalstorm.net/bands/albums_top.php?album_style=Symphonic" rel="nofollow - https://metalstorm.net/bands/albums_top.php?album_style=Symphonic
I never claimed Dream Theater are a Symphonic Metal band. They're a Progressive Metal band, as everyone here agrees, and I'll be adding them to my Progressive & Symphonic Metal list tomorrow. Wink

I do not know right now if you are trolling or stubbornly ignorant. It is clear you are ignoring everyone's opinions, you are right and everyone else is wrong. 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 26 2022 at 15:55
Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

You two seem to be busy with each other as always... LOL But, I hope Paul saw the videos I linked at the bottom of the previous page. Smile

Thanks for posting the two Dimmu Borgir videos, even though they're not my cup of tea. I'll add Dimmu Borgir to my list tomorrow, along with the PROGRESSIVE METAL band, Dream Theater. Wink


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 26 2022 at 15:58
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

You two seem to be busy with each other as always... LOL But, I hope Paul saw the videos I linked at the bottom of the previous page. Smile

Thanks for posting the two Dimmu Borgir videos, even though they're not my cup of tea. I'll add Dimmu Borgir to my list tomorrow, along with the PROGRESSIVE METAL band, Dream Theater. Wink



Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 27 2022 at 02:30
A-Z of Symphonic Metal (fully updated with 100+ artists & 500+ albums)


                 2017: The Dark Element - The Dark Element 
                 2019: The Dark Element - Songs the Night Sings

                 1999: Dark Moor - Shadowland
                 2000: Dark Moor - The Hall of the Olden Dreams
                 2002: Dark Moor - The Gates of Oblivion
                 2003: Dark Moor - Dark Moor
                 2005: Dark Moor - Beyond the Sea
                 2007: Dark Moor - Tarot
                 2009: Dark Moor - Autumnal
                 2010: Dark Moor - Ancestral Romance
                 2013: Dark Moor - Ars Musica
                 2015: Dark Moor - Project X
                 2018: Dark Moor - Origins

                 2015: Dark Sarah - Behind the Black Veil
                 2016: Dark Sarah - The Puzzle 
                 2018: Dark Sarah - The Golden Moth
                 2020: Dark Sarah - Grim
                 2022: Dark Sarah - Attack of Orym

                 2006: Delain - Lucidity
                 2009: Delain - April Rain
                 2012: Delain - We Are the Others
                 2014: Delain - The Human Contradiction
                 2016: Delain - Moonbathers
                 2020: Delain - Apocalypse & Chill

                 2010: Diabulus in Musica - Secrets
                 2012: Diabulus in Musica - The Wanderer
                 2014: Diabulus in Musica - Argia 
                 2016: Diabulus in Musica - Dirge for the Archons
                 2020: Diabulus in Musica  - Euphonic Entropy

                 2004: Dol Ammad - Star Tales
                 2006: Dol Ammad - Ocean Dynamics
                 2010: Dol Ammad - Winds of the Sun
                 2012: Dol Ammad - Cosmic Gods, Episode 1: Hyperspeed
                 2018: Dol Ammad - Cosmic Gods, Episode 2: Astroatlas

                 2001: Dragonland - The Battle of the Ivory Plains
                 2002: Dragonland - Holy War
                 2004: Dragonland - Starfall
                 2006: Dragonland - Astronomy
                 2011: Dragonland - Under the Grey Banner

                 2012: Dragony - Legends
                 2015: Dragony - Shadowplay
                 2017: Dragony - Lords of the Hunt
                 2018: Dragony - Masters of the Multiverse
                 2021: Dragony - Viribus Unitis

4 stars 1989: Dream Theater - When Dream and Day Unite -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_li0d7h1v8158uiQviXYaU0s-YVGLUiFr8" rel="nofollow - 5 stars 1992: Dream Theater - Images and Words -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lAQBvxVGv13GwL7f0z2M5SJrn1BaGNvKA" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lAQBvxVGv13GwL7f0z2M5SJrn1BaGNvKA
4 stars 1994: Dream Theater - Awake -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mSQAf-fo5V_C1QP1VgzjjCKG7lHnSVvpU" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mSQAf-fo5V_C1QP1VgzjjCKG7lHnSVvpU
4 stars 1995: Dream Theater - A Change of Seasons -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kWXG8rbHM2tUkDz0tIOLTEaSWswZyvnNc" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kWXG8rbHM2tUkDz0tIOLTEaSWswZyvnNc
4 stars 1997: Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kNr4sNPbVjsA8pfWfR-bajDVuZZd2lPBo" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kNr4sNPbVjsA8pfWfR-bajDVuZZd2lPBo
5 stars 1999: Dream Theater - Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes from a Memory -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mY0UJ7SdDG7n4DgXGJ_h-vG0QH9LpayaA" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mY0UJ7SdDG7n4DgXGJ_h-vG0QH9LpayaA
4 stars 2002: Dream Theater - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nTL1U2POUqlwoey4_5PuJU6raBZOMZmTE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nTL1U2POUqlwoey4_5PuJU6raBZOMZmTE
3 stars 2003: Dream Theater - Train of Thought -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mzHbHh63t-rMNesv4qdp459qrE1AD290E" rel="nofollow - 4 stars 2005: Dream Theater - Octavarium -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kenWZqZjpo5SVB1Jqq5I_ymw9FXIpVOKQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kenWZqZjpo5SVB1Jqq5I_ymw9FXIpVOKQ
3 stars 2007: Dream Theater - Systematic Chaos -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n-aJJz0aVUUdehC1GC6KKlsyra3bNvzb4" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n-aJJz0aVUUdehC1GC6KKlsyra3bNvzb4
4 stars 2009: Dream Theater - Black Clouds & Silver Linings -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mITLc-8859pN5FyuxZRjILfBdWgnRDJL0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mITLc-8859pN5FyuxZRjILfBdWgnRDJL0
4 stars 2011: Dream Theater - A Dramatic Turn of Events -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaO5evNthlMg_FDhpXDbtsuKtydKx6aGD" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaO5evNthlMg_FDhpXDbtsuKtydKx6aGD
3 stars 2013: Dream Theater - Dream Theater -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLo8SRTJOJ2EbaRhaZ6z2tSAwOtJh892RE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLo8SRTJOJ2EbaRhaZ6z2tSAwOtJh892RE
4 stars 2016: Dream Theater - The Astonishing -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mBL-KhEYcvVpXh7Br3U9uxoDyQfgK4JdE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mBL-KhEYcvVpXh7Br3U9uxoDyQfgK4JdE
3 stars 2019: Dream Theater - Distance Over Time -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nd0JULKbs82YNulDtoiDTnJdUkBvOfaVU" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nd0JULKbs82YNulDtoiDTnJdUkBvOfaVU
4 stars 2021: Dream Theater - The View from the Top of the World -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ksmWOXgYlkDzEJpHnBPdLWX47z2VysqSY" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ksmWOXgYlkDzEJpHnBPdLWX47z2VysqSY

                 2002: Dreamtale - Beyond Reality
                 2003: Dreamtale - Ocean's Heart
                 2005: Dreamtale - Difference
                 2008: Dreamtale - Phoenix
                 2011: Dreamtale - Epsilon
                 2013: Dreamtale - World Changed Forever
                 2016: Dreamtale - Seventhian: Memories of Time
                   


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 27 2022 at 02:33


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 27 2022 at 08:16
^ It'd be nice to have a proper conversation with you, Cristi,  instead of you re-posting nonsensical stickmen. Wink

What on earth is it supposed to represent anyway? Wacko

By the way, I just realised I forgot to include Symphonic Metal legend Christopher Lee in my listings. Embarrassed


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 27 2022 at 08:45
Here, Paul: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/trollface" rel="nofollow - https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/trollface

I got to know a bit about meme culture due to my eldest child. I think I may be too old-fashioned to get the appeal of gifs, emojis, memes and the like. Humph, kids and their lol cats and stuff. I said that that to my eldest (18) and was told off for that being such an old one, people into that are like old like millennials.



So it's from 2007. I used to use an image blocker to block that kind of stuff when it was more popular back in the earlier 2000s. So much of it I find annoying, and sometimes it's meant to annoy, but to each his or her own.

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 27 2022 at 08:53
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ It'd be nice to have a proper conversation with you, Cristi,  instead of you re-posting nonsensical stickmen. Wink

What on earth is it supposed to represent anyway? Wacko

By the way, I just realised I forgot to include Progressive Metal legend Christopher Lee in my listings. Embarrassed

Nice to have a proper conversation you say? but you ignore me completely, so your sentence here is disingenuous. 

And here is another proof of you trolling - you have been told REPEATEDLY that Christopher Lee did not play progressive metal, not just by me, but by several people. What Christopher Lee played with metal artists  can be called European power metal or epic heavy metal. 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 27 2022 at 08:55
^ Thanks for explaining the meaning behind Cristi's bizarre gifs. I feel the same way as you do, in that I prefer old-fashioned conversations to new-fangled gifs, emojis & memes, many of which are a mystery to me. Confused


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 27 2022 at 08:57
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Thanks for explaining the meaning behind Cristi's bizarre gifs. I feel the same way as you do, in that I prefer old-fashioned conversations to new-fangled gifs, emojis & memes, many of which are a mystery to me. Confused

sometimes images speak louder than words, unless you obviously play the fool and pretend not to understand. 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 27 2022 at 09:00
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ It'd be nice to have a proper conversation with you, Cristi,  instead of you re-posting nonsensical stickmen. Wink

What on earth is it supposed to represent anyway? Wacko

By the way, I just realised I forgot to include Progressive Metal legend Christopher Lee in my listings. Embarrassed

Nice to have a proper conversation you say? but you ignore me completely, so your sentence here is disingenuous. 

And here is another proof of you trolling - you have been told REPEATEDLY that Christopher Lee did not play progressive metal, not just by me, but by several people. What Christopher Lee played with metal artists  can be called European power metal or epic heavy metal. 
Well, I'm afraid Christopher Lee is here to stay now and the only way you can ward him off is to wear cloves of garlic around your neck, allegedly. Tongue


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 27 2022 at 09:02
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ It'd be nice to have a proper conversation with you, Cristi,  instead of you re-posting nonsensical stickmen. Wink

What on earth is it supposed to represent anyway? Wacko

By the way, I just realised I forgot to include Progressive Metal legend Christopher Lee in my listings. Embarrassed

Nice to have a proper conversation you say? but you ignore me completely, so your sentence here is disingenuous. 

And here is another proof of you trolling - you have been told REPEATEDLY that Christopher Lee did not play progressive metal, not just by me, but by several people. What Christopher Lee played with metal artists  can be called European power metal or epic heavy metal. 
Well, I'm afraid Christopher Lee is here to stay now and the only way you can ward him off is to wear cloves of garlic around your neck, allegedly. Tongue

Let me repeat:

Nice to have a proper conversation you say? but you ignore me completely, so your sentence here is dishonest. 



Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 27 2022 at 14:16
^ By the sword and the cross, I beseech ye! If you look over yonder at Discogs, you'll see that Christopher Lee is listed as Neo-Classical Symphonic Metal. I rest my case. Tongue

https://www.discogs.com/master/574126-Christopher-Lee-Charlemagne-The-Omens-Of-Death


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 27 2022 at 14:23
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ By the sword and the cross, I beseech ye! If you look over yonder at Discogs, you'll see that Christopher Lee is listed as Neo-Classical Symphonic Metal. I rest my case. Tongue

https://www.discogs.com/master/574126-Christopher-Lee-Charlemagne-The-Omens-Of-Death

By God almighty and all His mercy, can you stop the trolling. One post you say Lee is a prog metal legend, next post you say he play symphonic metal. It's not lack of consistency, but trolling or possibly worse - ignorance. 

I don't know what's neo-classical about it, neo-classical power metal is usually Yngwie Malmsteen influenced shredding, which I did not hear in the songs from Lee's band. 

A better resource
https://metalstorm.net/bands/band.php?band_id=4502&bandname=Christopher%2BLee" rel="nofollow - https://metalstorm.net/bands/band.php?band_id=4502&bandname=Christopher%2BLee


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 27 2022 at 14:37
^ Christopher Lee:- "What I sing is Symphonic Metal" - Case closed. Wink



Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 27 2022 at 14:45
^ you don't know the difference between the genres mentioned in this thread, so why are you even arguing now? 🤦‍♂️


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 27 2022 at 23:30
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ By the sword and the cross, I beseech ye! If you look over yonder at Discogs, you'll see that Christopher Lee is listed as Neo-Classical Symphonic Metal. I rest my case. Tongue

https://www.discogs.com/master/574126-Christopher-Lee-Charlemagne-The-Omens-Of-Death

I don't know what's neo-classical about it, neo-classical power metal is usually Yngwie Malmsteen influenced shredding, which I did not hear in the songs from Lee's band. 

Yngwie Malmsteen? I wonder how his parents came up with the name "Yngwie". Did they pick Scrabble letters out of a bag at random? Tongue


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 27 2022 at 23:50
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ By the sword and the cross, I beseech ye! If you look over yonder at Discogs, you'll see that Christopher Lee is listed as Neo-Classical Symphonic Metal. I rest my case. Tongue

https://www.discogs.com/master/574126-Christopher-Lee-Charlemagne-The-Omens-Of-Death

I don't know what's neo-classical about it, neo-classical power metal is usually Yngwie Malmsteen influenced shredding, which I did not hear in the songs from Lee's band. 

Yngwie Malmsteen? I wonder how his parents came up with the name "Yngwie". Did they pick Scrabble letters out of a bag at random? Tongue

again, disrespectful and TBH narrow-minded. Yngwie is Swedish born. If only google was your friend, but I guess it's not. 


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 28 2022 at 02:40

A question for you, Cristi and Archisorcerus, or anyone else, is Metal usually
considered to be a part of the Rock genre?


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 28 2022 at 02:41
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


A question for you, Cristi and Archisorcerus, or anyone else, is Metal usually
considered to be a part of the Rock genre?

I can't believe you asked that. 
Yes, it's part of the rock genre, but took a life of its own, throughout the years becoming quite diverse, now metal subgenres have their own subgenres. LOL


Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: February 28 2022 at 02:48
David, metal can be regarded as a part of the rock genre, the deplorable b*****d child of the rock, or a genre that was evolved from rock, by various people. It took its roots from rock, for sure. I tend to see it separate, though. 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 28 2022 at 03:01
Some Heavy Metal sub-genres:-

Alternative Metal
Black Metal
Death Metal
Folk Metal
Funk Metal
Glam Metal
Gothic Metal 
Heavy Metal
Industrial Metal
Instrumental Metal
Neo-Classical Metal
Power Metal/Speed Metal
Progressive Metal
Symphonic Metal
Tech/Extreme Metal
Thrash Metal

They're all the Metal sub-genres I know of, but there may be more. Wink


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 28 2022 at 03:36
A-Z of Symphonic Metal (fully updated with 100+ artists & 500+ albums)


                  2000: Edenbridge - Sunrise in Eden
                  2001: Edenbridge - Arcana
                  2003: Edenbridge - Aphelion
                  2004: Edenbridge - Shine
                  2006: Edenbridge - The Grand Design
                  2008: Edenbridge - My Earth Dream
                  2010: Edenbridge - Solitaire
                  2013: Edenbridge - The Bonding
                  2017: Edenbridge - The Great Momentum
                  2019: Edenbridge - Dynamind

                  2003: Epica: The Phantom Agony - 
                  2005: Epica - Consign to Oblivion - 
                  2007: Epica - The Divine Conspiracy
                  2009: Epica - Design Your Universe
                  2012: Epica - Requiem for the Indifferent
                  2014: Epica - The Quantum Enigma
                  2016: Epica - The Holographic Principle
                  2021: Epica - Omega

                  2009: Epochate - Chronicles of a Dying Era

                  2003: Evanescence - Fallen
                  2006: Evanescence - The Open Door
                  2011: Evanescence - Evanescence
                  2017: Evanescence - Synthesis
                  2021: Evanescence - The Bitter Truth

                  2017: Exit Eden - Rhapsodies in Black

                  2007: Eyes of Eden - Faith


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 28 2022 at 03:43
Mr. Copy-Paste Paul, you must be so proud of your trolling.

The 2022 Evergrey album is to be released in  late May. LOL

I can't even get mad at all this nonsense anymore. LOL


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 28 2022 at 04:12
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

... now metal subgenres have their own subgenres. 
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Some Heavy Metal sub-genres:-

I know most of the Metal subgenres, my question was not about that. Smile

Cristi, your reply seems somehow dubious to me, or do you mean that Metal subgenres shall be considered as Rock's sub-subgenres? 
And is it your own point of view or what you find to be the usual one?

Paul, I can tell you - even you might already know - that I consider Heavy Metal to be one of the Metal subgenres.

Thanks, for your reply as well, Archisorcerus .     



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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 28 2022 at 04:26
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

[QUOTE=Cristi]

Cristi, your reply seems somehow dubious to me, or do you mean that Metal subgenres 
are Rock's sub-subgenres.


No, I mean metal subgenres have their own subgenres

Let's take doom metal, which in the last couple of decades has developed quite a bit. 

Traditional doom or epic doom - it's the clasic doom sound that Black Sabbath created and inspired.

Death-doom and melodic death doom - doom metal, with death metal vocals, some bands have female vocals and growls, best example the band Draconian. 

Gothic-doom - like Paradise Lost

Stoner and sludge - very hit and miss, especially sludge, but they are doom subgenres.
Drone - a doom subgenre, not my thing though. 
Funeral Doom - really slow yet atmospheric doom, with deep growls. 

I can name other genres if you want me to. 

Or just go to a site like metal storm, they tag genres and subgenres really well. 


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 28 2022 at 04:32
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Cristi, your reply seems somehow dubious to me, or do you mean that Metal subgenres 
are Rock's sub-subgenres.
No, I mean metal subgenres have their own subgenres

So you say, Metal is a part of Rock, but Metal subgenres are not?

And are you talking about your own point of view, or what you find to be the most usual one? 


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 28 2022 at 04:37
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Cristi, your reply seems somehow dubious to me, or do you mean that Metal subgenres 
are Rock's sub-subgenres.
No, I mean metal subgenres have their own subgenres

So you say, Metal is a part of Rock, but Metal subgenres are not?

And are you talking about your own point of view, or what you find to be the most usual one? 

how did you get that metal subgenres are not part of rock? Confused
I don't come up with my own genres and subgenres, it's common knowledge, everyone who is into metal should know (and knows) these things.


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 28 2022 at 05:18
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Mr. Copy-Paste Paul, you must be so proud of your trolling.

The 2022 Evergrey album is to be released in  late May. LOL

I can't even get mad at all this nonsense anymore. LOL
I haven't copied and pasted anything. I typed it all out by hand. Big smile


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 28 2022 at 05:23
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

... now metal subgenres have their own subgenres. 
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Some Heavy Metal sub-genres:-

I know most of the Metal subgenres, my question was not about that. Smile

Cristi, your reply seems somehow dubious to me, or do you mean that Metal subgenres shall be considered as Rock's sub-subgenres? 
And is it your own point of view or what you find to be the usual one?

Paul, I can tell you - even you might already know - that I consider Heavy Metal to be one of the Metal subgenres.

Thanks, for your reply as well, Archisorcerus .     

Yes, even Heavy Metal itself is a sub-genre of Heavy Metal, bizarre as it may seem. Tongue

David, I feel like we're intruding on Cristi's specialist subject here, as  whatever we say about Heavy Metal, we're going to get criticised for it. Smile


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 28 2022 at 05:25
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Mr. Copy-Paste Paul, you must be so proud of your trolling.

The 2022 Evergrey album is to be released in  late May. LOL

I can't even get mad at all this nonsense anymore. LOL
I haven't copied and pasted anything. I typed it all out by hand. Big smile

oh, you only copied? You didn't paste? LOL


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 28 2022 at 05:28
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Mr. Copy-Paste Paul, you must be so proud of your trolling.

The 2022 Evergrey album is to be released in  late May. LOL

I can't even get mad at all this nonsense anymore. LOL
I haven't copied and pasted anything. I typed it all out by hand. Big smile

oh, you only copied? You didn't paste? LOL
Yes, that's a fair description. Wink


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 28 2022 at 05:44
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:


David, I feel like we're intruding on Cristi's specialist subject here, as  whatever we say about Heavy Metal, we're going to get criticised for it. Smile

Not true, I criticize you in this context because you are trolling me.

And David asked me a question, I answered it. 


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 28 2022 at 06:10
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Some Heavy Metal sub-genres:-
Paul, I can tell you - even you might already know - that I consider Heavy Metal to be one of the Metal subgenres.

- even historically speaking, Heavy Metal is "the mother" of the Metal genre, so I can see a point there.



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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 28 2022 at 06:16
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

how did you get that metal subgenres are not part of rock? Confused
I don't come up with my own genres and subgenres, it's common knowledge, everyone who is into metal should know (and knows) these things.

Sorry to say that, but you're not a great theoretician, Cristi. Star


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 28 2022 at 06:19
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

how did you get that metal subgenres are not part of rock? Confused
I don't come up with my own genres and subgenres, it's common knowledge, everyone who is into metal should know (and knows) these things.

Sorry to say that, but you're not a great theoretician, Cristi. Star

LOL
I wasn't trying to be a theoretician LOL

What is it that you haven't understood? That doom metal has 5-6 subgenres? LOL


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 28 2022 at 07:19
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

A question for you, Cristi and Archisorcerus, or anyone else, is Metal usually
considered to be a part of the Rock genre?
Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

David, metal can be regarded as a part of the rock genre, the deplorable b*****d child of the rock, or a genre that was evolved from rock, by various people. It took its roots from rock, for sure. I tend to see it separate, though. 

I can have the impression that to a certain degree, it's a matter of dispute or disagreement? 


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 28 2022 at 07:29
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

A question for you, Cristi and Archisorcerus, or anyone else, is Metal usually
considered to be a part of the Rock genre?
Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

David, metal can be regarded as a part of the rock genre, the deplorable b*****d child of the rock, or a genre that was evolved from rock, by various people. It took its roots from rock, for sure. I tend to see it separate, though. 

I can have the impression that to a certain degree, it's a matter of dispute? 

if i may answer - no, there's no dispute as far as i have seen. 


Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: February 28 2022 at 07:42
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

A question for you, Cristi and Archisorcerus, or anyone else, is Metal usually
considered to be a part of the Rock genre?
Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

David, metal can be regarded as a part of the rock genre, the deplorable b*****d child of the rock, or a genre that was evolved from rock, by various people. It took its roots from rock, for sure. I tend to see it separate, though. 

I can have the impression that to a certain degree, it's a matter of dispute or disagreement? 

Some people just don't embrace metal music, or even respect that. Think of it like, someone can tolerate a kissing scene in a movie, but not one with full nudity where people have sex.


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 28 2022 at 09:58

thanks Ozgur and Cristi


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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: March 01 2022 at 05:46

Even it's not a part of the Symphonic Metal genre, I hope it's ok to ask you, Ozgur
if you're familar with the partly operatic Celtic Frost's (CH) Into the Pandemonium (1987), 
as I find it to be a great piece of creativity, originality and heavy organic sound?


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                      quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond


Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: March 01 2022 at 06:16
^ David, I know that Celtic Frost is one of the monumental bands in metal history, but TBH, I'm not very much into them. I'm now listening to that album on Youtube. Quality raw metal. I'm enjoying it. My ears are more used to the 90s' metal and onwards though, howbeit I became a metalhead with Metallica's Kill 'Em All: the epitome of rawness in metal. 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 02 2022 at 03:06
A-Z of Symphonic Metal (fully updated with 100+ artists & 500+ albums)


                  2003: Fairyland - Of Wars in Osyrhia
                  2006: Fairyland - The Fall of an Empire
                  2009: Fairyland - Score to a New Beginning
                  2020: Fairyland - Osyrhianta

                  2005: Forever Slave - Alice's Inferno
                  2008: Forever Slave - Tales for Bad Girls



Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 02 2022 at 03:10
^ LOL
Mr. Copy-Paste Paul, can you spell bands' names right? 
I'll give you a few minutes to fix that. LOL


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 02 2022 at 03:14
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ LOL
Mr. Copy-Paste Paul, can you spell bands' names right? 
I'll give you a few minutes to fix that. LOL
I inserted the missing apostrophe in Fate's Warning. At least it proves I'm not just copying and pasting the artist and album names. Tongue


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 02 2022 at 03:19
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ LOL
Mr. Copy-Paste Paul, can you spell bands' names right? 
I'll give you a few minutes to fix that. LOL
I inserted the missing apostrophe in Fate's Warning. At least it proves I'm not just copying and pasting the artist and album names. Tongue

Can I insert an apostrophe in your name? 
The band is called Fates Warning so spell it right. 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 02 2022 at 03:23
^ Okay, I've fixed my apostrophe catastrophe. Thumbs Up


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 02 2022 at 03:35
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Okay, I've fixed my apostrophe catastrophe. Thumbs Up

wow, thank you, i thought you would argue with me for a couple more hours. LOL


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 02 2022 at 03:45
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Okay, I've fixed my apostrophe catastrophe. Thumbs Up

wow, thank you, i thought you would argue with me for a couple more hours. LOL
Nope. You were right and I was wrong. Embarrassed

At least I remembered how to spell Dream Theater. Big smile


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 03 2022 at 12:44
A-Z of Symphonic Metal (fully updated with 100+ artists & 500+ albums)


                  2007: Gwyllion - Awakening the Dream
                  2009: Gwyllion - The Edge of All I Know



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