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mathman0806 
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 Posted: February 20 2022 at 07:06 |
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I think she was my very first nominee in the second interactive poll (I voted in the first but did not nominate). I also nominated her in the female singer-songwriter poll and mentioned her in another. |
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Archisorcerus
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Posted: February 20 2022 at 08:23 |
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I've been quite busy today. I'll place the nominations in the option spaces a couple of hours later. So, anyone can still participate. The voting period will last about 6 days. Everyone will have plenty of time to listen to all the nominations and then vote. So, this would not be a belated joining.
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Archisorcerus
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Posted: February 20 2022 at 11:40 |
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We can begin voting, but I request to wait a couple of hours for The Dark Elf to verify his nomination. I picked his first song, but he can make me change it if he wishes. I'll P.M. him now.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: February 20 2022 at 12:08 |
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Thanks for the PM, Ozgur. I think I'd prefer the Tracy Chapman song, if you don't mind. Less popular than Janis's famous tune and viscerally and emotionally far more heavy.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
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Archisorcerus
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Posted: February 20 2022 at 12:11 |
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^ No hay problema, Greg. I've edited it already.
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Cristi
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Posted: February 20 2022 at 12:20 |
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is there a playlist I missed?
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mathman0806
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Posted: February 20 2022 at 12:31 |
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No, but I put one together just now.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx7aItvaJAUqP7rrz62YHMk3 |
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Cristi
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Posted: February 20 2022 at 12:33 |
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^ thank you!
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JD
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Posted: February 20 2022 at 12:42 |
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I have to look at these three as top contenders for me right now. While I love pipe organ music there are better compositions and performances that I would gravitate towards personally. Same with the vocal selections, some nice entries here and wonderful voices, but not enough to wow me. I can't remember if Özgür said mulitracks, loops or overdubs were permissible but I choose to not favour them over single artist, single instrument options. That left me with... Barre Phillips - Dear Doctor a moody cello piece with the kind of dissonance I like in these types of pieces Talon - Falla: Fantasía Bética a piano piece that I can very well imagine Keith Emerson performing in his heyday Estas Tonne - Song of the Golden Dragon an uptempo guitar piece that just screams out for a full on backing bandEdited by JD - February 20 2022 at 12:45 |
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jamesbaldwin
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Posted: February 20 2022 at 13:22 |
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Mini reviews:
1) Haendel: I remember that Ozgur has already proposed a piece of Haendel, it was taken from Water Music, and I voted for it, because Haeandel's Water Music was one of my favorite classical music during my youth. Here, on the other hand, Ozgur offers us a slow piece for harpsichord, a plucked string instrument whose sound I really like. The atmosphere is clear and sweet as often happens in baroque music, very intimate and sophysticated, perhaps without reaching ecstasy. Definitely a refined piece. I dont know if I will vote for Haendel again. 2) Wintergatan. Beautiful video, where you can see this handcrafted machinery, the Marble Machine (actually a natural synthesizer, but connected to an electric guitar to simulate the rhythm section: drums and bass). The machine is extraordinary in its versatility, and the musician could be compared to a carpenter. A miracle of musical arrangement. However, if I limit myself to listening to the music produced, the pleasure in listening is not as great as the pleasure of seeing the video (or it is not as great as the surprise of seeing this musical machine, which is truly a brilliant invention). 3) Tracy Chapman. I love Chapman's debut, I can say that I know it by heart, including this song, which has the advantage of being a blues both in vocals and in lyrics. Short but intense. I don't know if it will be on the podium but my heart is with Tracy. Edited by jamesbaldwin - February 20 2022 at 13:25 |
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Mila-13
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Posted: February 20 2022 at 13:39 |
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I did ask Özgür for approval before picking the electric cello piece, though. Freudmann uses distortion pedals (which is basically the case in this track), loops and alike in his live performances as well. But regardless, what do you think of that track? The architecture of some old Swiss cities looks similar to some extent. The children eating giant fountain is in the old town centre of Bern.  A "classic" bogeyman with historical background, an unsulved crime. At the time? it was quite common to publically put the blame on minority groups. Here they put a traditional Jewish hat on the giant's head . .Btw. how can I post pictures in the thread? Edited by Mila-13 - February 20 2022 at 14:23 |
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JD
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Posted: February 20 2022 at 14:13 |
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It was interesting. Go here first  Then Here  Then select Browse, choose your image (FYI it should be around 600-800 pixels wide max to fit in the window), then select Upload which stores the image in your member folder, then say OK.  The image should appear in your post window. Just Post Reply and you're done.
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Mila-13
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Posted: February 20 2022 at 14:28 |
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Thank you for the detailed instructions! Let's see if I can do it.
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jamesbaldwin
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Posted: February 20 2022 at 17:58 |
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Mini reviews, part II 4) Barre Phillips: extreme piece, almost atonal, all on the cello alone, no complacency, persistent inertia and a few moments of sound experimentalism. You can like it from an intellectuall point of view or, conversely, it can create boredom or repulsion. 5) Messiaen: solo organ piece, also this slow and extreme piece, which proceeds with insistent inertia, however the composition here has a development and tends to an emphatic, rhetorical but pleasant progression modulated on small tonal variations, approaching cosmic music by Klaus Schultze. After the climax, slow final regression. Perhaps too long-winded and self-indulgent. 6) Estas Tonne: virtuosic mini suite on classical guitar with a very lively chorus that often returns, alternating with slow more classical interludes, and a flamenco-style tour de force. Challenging, at times paroxysmal, but of sure effect. Contender. 7) Chaplin: I know Chopin's nocturnes well. This is not my favorite but it is very good, the elegance of Chopin is very present but especially after a slow waltz start, around three and a half minutes there is an increase in the rhythm, an excellent variation that makes it interesting . Contender. Edited by jamesbaldwin - February 20 2022 at 18:11 |
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Posted: February 20 2022 at 18:24 |
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Mini reviews:
8) Dokaka: a cappella song with first and second (and sometimes third) voices, sometimes accompanied with snaps of the hands. Faithful reproduction of the Crimson song. Which is tricky. The song seems almost robotic, at times space-rock, certainly chiseled with painstaking precision. In many parts it has an alienating effect and, before the end, even an exhausting effect. Towards the end I began to have a hysterical laugh, for this paranoid and frankly excessive song by King Crimson which here becomes frankly obsessive, with a precision that goes beyond fussiness, becomes at times (involuntarily) demented, touching kitsch in several moments. I cannot deny, however, that this refined and excessive experimentalism, which I don't know whether to judge at a high or low level, struck me, unleashing strong and opposing emotions in me. 9) Langaard: atonal piece that works by subtraction, interesting but when you work by subtraction and the piece is so short, very little musical content remains. 10) Pentangle: Nickie chose the vocal piece, sung by a very folk female voice (I preferred the other pieces proposed but this too is beautiful). It seems to be in the dark in the middle of a deserted forest. Suggestive. 11) Stricagnoli plays Mozart at the banjo, obtaining an alienating effect and an unclassifiable musical genre, it is not known whether folk, rock or jazz. Steve Howe would like him. The mastery of the musician is indisputable. 12) Gideon Freudmann: I didn't quite understand how many instruments are involved in this piece, however in general there is a composition that proceeds on two melodic lines; the sound is electronic, muffled (and this dampens the pathos) but the music is beautiful, inspired, and well crafted. Contender. |
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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jamesbaldwin
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Posted: February 20 2022 at 18:28 |
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My Podium: (an excessive experimental piece, a classical piece, a piece with a very good composition: three pieces very inspired) 1) Dokaka: a cappella song with first and second (and sometimes third) voices, sometimes accompanied with snaps of the hands. Faithful reproduction of the Crimson song. Which is tricky. The song seems almost robotic, at times space-rock, certainly chiseled with painstaking precision. In many parts it has an alienating effect and, before the end, even an exhausting effect. Towards the end I began to have a hysterical laugh, for this paranoid and frankly excessive song by King Crimson which here becomes frankly obsessive, with a precision that goes beyond fussiness, becomes at times (involuntarily) demented, touching kitsch in several moments. I cannot deny, however, that this refined and excessive experimentalism, which I don't know whether to judge at a high or low level, struck me, unleashing strong and opposing emotions in me. 2) Chaplin: I know Chopin's nocturnes well. This is not my favorite but it is very good, the elegance of Chopin is very present but especially after a slow waltz start, around three and a half minutes there is an increase in the rhythm, an excellent variation that makes it interesting. 3) Gideon Freudmann: I didn't quite understand how many instruments are involved in this piece, however in general there is a composition that proceeds on two melodic lines; the sound is electronic, muffled (and this dampens the pathos) but the music is beautiful, inspired, and well crafted. ----- Honorable mentions: 4) Estas Tonne: virtuosic mini suite on classical guitar with a very lively chorus that often returns, alternating with slow more classical interludes, and a flamenco-style tour de force. Challenging, at times paroxysmal, but of sure effect. 5) Pentangle: Nickie chose the vocal piece, sung by a very folk female voice (I preferred the other pieces proposed but this too is beautiful). It seems to be in the dark in the middle of a deserted forest. Suggestive. 6) Haendel: I remember that Ozgur has already proposed a piece of Haendel, it was taken from Water Music, and I voted for it, because Haeandel's Water Music was one of my favorite classical music during my youth. Here, on the other hand, Ozgur offers us a slow piece for harpsichord, a plucked string instrument whose sound I really like. The atmosphere is clear and sweet as often happens in baroque music, very intimate and sophysticated, perhaps without reaching ecstasy. Definitely a refined piece. 7) Messiaen: solo organ piece, also this slow and extreme piece, which proceeds with insistent inertia, however the composition here has a development and tends to an emphatic, rhetorical but pleasant progression modulated on small tonal variations, approaching cosmic music by Klaus Schultze. After the climax, slow final regression. Perhaps too long-winded and self-indulgent. GRAND PUBLIC'S PRIZE: Tracy Chapman. I love Chapman's debut, I can say that I know it by heart, including this song, which has the advantage of being a blues both in vocals and in lyrics. Short but intense. I don't know if it will be on the podium but my heart is with Tracy. GRAND CRITIC'S PRIZE: Barre Phillips: extreme piece, almost atonal, all on the cello alone, no complacency, persistent inertia and a few moments of sound experimentalism. You can like it from an intellectuall point of view or, conversely, it can create boredom or repulsion. Extraordinary prize for the originality of the musical instrument: Wintergatan. Beautiful video, where you can see this handcrafted machinery, the Marble Machine (actually a natural synthesizer, but connected to an electric guitar to simulate the rhythm section: drums and bass). The machine is extraordinary in its versatility, and the musician could be compared to a carpenter. A miracle of musical arrangement. However, if I limit myself to listening to the music produced, the pleasure in listening is not as great as the pleasure of seeing the video (or it is not as great as the surprise of seeing this musical machine, which is truly a brilliant invention). Edited by jamesbaldwin - February 20 2022 at 19:00 |
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Posted: February 21 2022 at 00:19 |
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my three choices
Latry - Messiaen: Apparition de l'eglise eternelle Wintergatan - Marble Machine Talon - Falla: Fantasía Bética
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Posted: February 22 2022 at 08:48 |
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After very much deliberation and several re-listens, here are my choice for this poll. Much thanks to Özgür for conducting the poll, to George for the playlist, and, of course, to Lorenzo!
1. Greg: Tracy Chapman “Behind the Wall,” Years later,
Tracy Chapman was all over the radio as well, let’s see if I remember this one,
if it got airplay or not in LA where I was living at the time. Her unmistakeable and beautiful voice tells a
sad tale of an abusive relationship. I
like that one. Amazing how much can be
said in 1 ½ minutes. 2. Cristi: François Chaplin Nocturne in C Minor, Op. 48 No. 1: "A Mademoiselle Laure Duperré" Beautiful solo piece. Begins somberly, but becomes more decorated, and then, a bit dramatic. I can’t help but wonder about the subject. Was she a tempestuous child, or a woman? Young, certainly, as “mademoiselle,” would indicate. Piece flows back into a more emotive portion, perhaps the storm has been averted? Then all becomes, although still complicated, much more graceful again, to the end. Lovely. 3. tigerfeet: Estas Tonne “Song of the Golden Dragon” Classical style guitar piece, builds quickly, a bit of a Spanish flair to it (the heat of the dragon?), it gets quite fiery early on. It changes a bit thematically, but still keeps up quite a pace, then moves into a softer feel, with fingerpicking, then back again to the fireworks. About halfway in, another visit to the land of fingerpicking, this person has incredible stamina! The pace winds down into thoughtfulness and one more time back to the fray before becoming soft embers. Pretty danged incredible piece. RUNNERS UP (no particular order): Tapfret: Dokaka Cover of “Fracture” Anders: “the housefly” Also if he'd chosen: “the migrating grasshopper” George: Luca Stricagnoli “Eine Kleine Nachtmusik/Serenade in G” Edited by Snicolette - February 22 2022 at 08:51 |
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Mila-13
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Posted: February 23 2022 at 14:38 |
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My votes will go to:
T. Teirup: Langgaard, Insektarium, No. 7, Housefly This is a fragment (tiny movement) of a quite unique piece. The very idea of creating a musical insectarium I find fascinating. The entire piece is delicately crafted and refined including a discrete sense of humour. The pianist performs it with great sensitivity and lets this gem shine! Wintergatan: Marble Machine For sure one of the most original contributions in this poll. This marble machine is one ingenious and unique creation. The music itself is inherently experimental, as a composition it is maybe a bit less convincing but as a whole it wins me over by its charming playfulness filled with positive energy! Pentangle/McShee: When I Was in My Prime (traditional) The oldest instrument in the world is the human voice. Here we have a traditional folk song sung with exceptional beauty. There is something magical and deeply touching about it! __________________ Honorable mentions: Barre Phillips: Dear Doctor - This piece and album have definitely rarity value! A double bass is rare as a solo instrument and certainly in jazz music. By its very nature music composed for a double bass can nothing else be but experimental. Experimental music always attracts my attention, but in this case my appreciation remains on the intellectual level. R. Talon: De Falla, Fantasía Bética - This entry makes me realize how little I know about classical music from the countries of the Iberian Peninsula, maybe apart from a few well-known classical Spanish guitar compositions and composers. I was not quite convinced by the sound quality of this live recording of Fantasía Bética and I have therefore searched for a studio recording. It is an intense and dramatic piece and normally I do like this kind of compositions but here I missed the a bit calmer, more intimate parts as a balance and especially the musical introduction. Dokaka: King Crimson, Fracture - Another very original and catchy act! A brave attempt to interpret this lengthy King Crimson piece with the means of beatboxing. I’m not quite sure how well that turned out musically, though but i have never seen anything like it before. As for the big names of classical music represented here, of course I appreaciate their work and respect their significance but this time around I chose to favour the less-known artists/composers. The same goes for Tracy Chapman who is very dear to me. Had a song from a less-known album been chosen, I would have voted for it. ________________ I would like to thank Özgür for hosting this interesting poll and George for the playlist. My special thanks go out to all of you who took the time to comment on the music, always much appreciated! ________________ Edited by Mila-13 - February 23 2022 at 17:09 |
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Thank you, Mila. I've loved that song ever since I first heard it on radio back when that album was released. I don't know about you, but very one of these polls gets harder for me to decide!
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