Interactive Poll: Where Musicians Don't Interact
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Topic: Interactive Poll: Where Musicians Don't Interact
Posted By: Archisorcerus
Subject: Interactive Poll: Where Musicians Don't Interact
Date Posted: February 12 2022 at 12:07
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Attention, for the already participated (Edit): I expanded the theme of the poll, but did not alter it. So, your already nominated songs are valid, if they fit the initial criteria. You can keep them, as well as choose another song, oops track, if you prefer, considering the enhanced theme. Read all my "songs" as "tracks". As an instrumental cannot be a song. Thanks to The Anders for the correction. This round is quite simple. (Edit: Lol it became not too simple now. In a nutshell, it should be a single musician that performs the music.) We will nominate songs where there is a single instrument played by a musician and/or a singer who also plays an instrument while singing, or else a multi-instrumentalist who plays more than one instrument (s/he can also sing too) during the same performance. The combination of both is not accepted, such as a vocal song accompanied by another musician. But a musician singing and playing an instrument is accepted. So, there should be only one musician in the song who should be playing a single instrument or multiple instruments in the same performance, or playing an instrument and singing, or else only singing. That means a capella bands are not accepted, but a musician singing and playing the harmonica and/or guitar is. I suggest that we don't include overly polyphonic synth pieces here. OK, a single person can play like a crowded band with his/her synthesizer. But, I wouldn't encourage sharing such stuff. Also I strongly suggest that, if one is gonna nominate a multi-instrumentalist, s/he only includes a single performance of the artist, rather than the instrumentalist recording many instruments separately and combining them. Whilst, we can nominate songs where synthetic sounds of the instruments are used. It, again, shouldn't be too polyphonic. (See my second video for an example to that.) The rules are: 1-) Nominate a single song fitting the topic. (The topic of this poll is: solo instrumentals or solo vocal songs, or else a musician playing an (or multiple) instrument(s) who might also be singing.) Add a note above or below the Youtube link, denoting that it is your nomination. I really wish that would be your first video shared in your first post. Though, you can add the note and edit the videos even just before the voting process begins. So, no worries if you decide to change your nomination. I'll notify here for the deadline of choosing one's nomination. In normal cases, it will be just after 1 weeks from today. You can add other songs here too, after your nominated song/video. They will be for fun, and for the members (us) to discover more music. Please don't share like 25 songs though. 2-) When I declare that the voting process commences, we all vote for our 3 favourites among the nominations. We have a full week to do that. So, you can take your time. Multiple votes are allowed, but as we, the experienced "Interactivers" always do, please vote only for 3 options. (This is for the prospective newcomers, please do join. We don't bite.  ) In normal cases, this phase will last for about a week after the voting process begins. 3-) Obscure or relatively lesser known prog stuff is OK. You can nominate one of them. Yet, consider that there are very knowledgeable people here. And, some of them don't vote for the stuff that they know very well, even if they like that song. 4-) Your nomination can be something like a prelude or an interlude too. As long as, it has the qualities of a song. We also share our picks, just before or after casting our votes. So, it would be cool if everyone does that. (My podium is: 1- X, 2- Y, 3- Z...) Some of us give feedbacks during this 2 weeks. If you can spare time, and you feel like doing that, you can consider this too. You can give feedbacks anytime during this 2 weeks period, to be more precise. The above part seems a bit long and detailed, but our probable newcomers shouldn't be intimidated by it. Mistakes are OK. We'll let you know if you make one. I don't see one of us being an a****le while doing that.  The only problem you can create is casting untimely votes. The voting will begin after a week, and I'll declare that. After placing the nominations in the respective spaces of the poll options.Have fun!!! My nomination is from my favourite harpsichord album. I love harpsichord as a solo instrument best, BTW. Colin Tilney - Handel: Harpsichord Suite 5 in E M - IV air This one is out of the competition. A theme from my favourite PC game: Baldur's Gate II. Digital synths or not, I love harp too. This is so peaceful... Baldur's Gate II: Harper Theme Hahah, finally, and again out of the competition. Because Handel is never enough, nor is harpsichord! |
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: February 12 2022 at 12:55
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So classical pieces by others is accepted? Or more broadly...non original pieces can be performed by others? ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: February 12 2022 at 13:04
Wintergatan - Marble MachineContact Mic Sound Board DIYGorkem Sen - Yaybahar------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: February 12 2022 at 13:11
Yes. As long as there's a single instrument played by one person, or a vocal work sung by one person, anything is accepted. BTW, my picks were classical. But it can be from any genre. I wouldn't reccommend such extremity for your own good though.  (See below.) |
JD wrote:Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: February 12 2022 at 13:39
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EDIT: My nomination is Barre Phillips: This one is rather special to me for different reasons, but here
I'll just mention that Barre Phillips gave me (and signed) this album
when we were both involved in a retrospective of Robert Kramer's film
work in Japan in 2001. BP made much of the music for RK's films and he
made this album as an homage to him ("Eight Pieces for Robert Kramer")
after RK passed away a bit more than a year earlier. If you like this,
don't hesitate to check out Barre Phillips' other work... Solo work on
the double bass! Barre Phillips - Dear Doctor: Interesting poll theme and take on things. I actually immediately thought of this piece of music, but I'm afraid it is too well known to many of us. We will see... So, here's a piece by Steve Reich, where the violin player is playing with himself/herself...  Steve Reich - Violin Phase: ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: February 12 2022 at 13:56
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So: in effect, a singing voice is only eligible if the performance consists of that voice and then nothing else - and not f.e. a singer singing to his/her own guitar playing? "As long as, it has the qualities of a song." Now a song, at least in my vocabulary, is something you sing. I would never count instrumentals as songs. Unless we count Mendelsohn's 'Lieder ohne Worte' and things like that...
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Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: February 12 2022 at 14:02
Yes, no guitar playing and singing at the same time. You must have heard "instrumental songs" where there's no singing, right? |
Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: February 12 2022 at 14:26
BTW I was surprised to learn that the dictionaries of Cambridge and Merriam-Webster agree with you in that. And they are my primary sources as dictionaries. So I concede. Thank you for that, really. Logically I already agreed with you, but I was thinking that the word song, in time, encompassed a wider musical meaning. So I, thanks to you, have learned that I was wrong in using the word song like this. But forgive me, I'm probably a partner in crime with numerous people.  I honestly appreciate your correcting my mistake. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 12 2022 at 15:10
The themes seem to get harder and harder.  I'll try to think of something interesting and get back to this.
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: February 12 2022 at 15:28
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The easiest would be to pick a classical piece (e.g. the movement of a piano sonata), but I think I will try to come up with something else. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: February 12 2022 at 15:29
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@Özgür Hi, I have a question. So if I understand correctly, our first post shall be authomatically our nomination? I hope that is not the case because that would really dampen my initial enthusiasm. |
Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: February 12 2022 at 15:35
Mila. It would make my job easier. But it is not a strict rule. You can always edit your first post and add your nomination in your own post, until the voting begins. But, it is neither a must, nor mandatory. We are here to have fun! Yet, please drop a note and write something like "this is my nomination" over or under your nominated song. Writing the artist name and the song, oops track, title would also be nice! |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: February 12 2022 at 15:46
Now that I can understand! So if I have a new inspiration after I have posted my first suggestion I can post it in the thread as long as I also edit my first post, I guess? So theoretically I could store several suggestions in my first post if I indicate which of those would be my potential nomination? |
Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: February 12 2022 at 15:55
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^ You can even add your ultimate nomination, from one of your random post on another page, and copy-paste it in your first post! As I said, it will make things easier for me. But no worries! Dropping a note over or under your nomination is also OK. Wherever that track is. If I were the only poll creator here, I might have been a bit demanding regarding my rules. But, as I stated in my original post, I just "wish" you all do so! I'm gonna sleep now. Have a good night. 
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: February 12 2022 at 16:01
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So...no guitars or synthesizers. No singing with an instrument. Just piano pieces then? Or are either of these acceptable: ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: February 12 2022 at 16:03
Ok. Maybe it would make sense to inform people in the team thread that you started the new poll? |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 12 2022 at 17:49
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I've entered a short announcement with a link to this poll in the Team thread. This hasn't always been done, so it's not unusual that it wasn't, Mila. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 12 2022 at 18:02
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Nomination: Olivier Latry plays Olivier Messiaen's Apparition de l'eglise eternelle. xxx This one is maybe too well known, but I love it. Joe Jackson - Nocturne |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: February 12 2022 at 18:40
I suggested that it might be useful given that hardly anyone was around atm. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: February 12 2022 at 18:46
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Rather extreme theme. MY NOMINATION: It is much easier to select a piece of classical music, as The Anders rightly says. As you know, I have always tried, with the exception of some occasions, not to propose pieces by cultured, classical or avant-garde musicians, but in this case I think it is appropriate to do so. I propose you a piece of piano by Manuel De Falla that I have known since I was a teenager. In fact, together with Verdi's opera vinyls, my father had collections of classical music vinyls, 8 catalogs with 8 discs each, starting from 1600 to finish with Bartok and Stravinsky, and those 64 discs have become my map for deepen classical music, even now I have in mind the classification in 8 catalogs. There was only one record of De Falla and I did not like the compositions for guitar very much, on the contrary I immediately liked this piece for piano very much, I remember reading the notes written on the booklet of the record, which were well done, where they explained that in this piece De Falla uses the piano in a "percussive" way, that is, he shows what a percussion instrument it is. And as you can see, I read it over 30 years ago and I still remember it. I'll post a live piece so you can see how much that musical encycledia of mine had reason: the piano is played like a percussion instrument. I hope many of you don't know this piece. PS In choosing the live song (there are many on youtube) I noticed how much the tempo of the piece changes, it goes from 8 minutes to 14 minutes, just think what a difference! I remember it longer than 10 minutes, so if I put one that lasts 13 minutes, it seems to me the right pace. Enjoy! ----- OUT OF COMPETITION: In the field of "pop" music, apart from some examples of famous musicians (like Tracy Chapman and Joe Jackson (which I see already launched by two of you), I can't think of anyone other than John Fahey (excluding prog), who is not an artist that I particularly love. I know it only partially thanks to the advice of Piero Scaruffi, and in any case I recognize its greatness. From his masterpiece album, Fare Forward Voyagers, I will spare you the song (the instrumental piece, to be exact) with the same name, which lasts more than 20 minutes, and I propose the shortest one, this: ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: February 12 2022 at 19:01
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Hey guys, I take the opportunity to remind you that there are still a few votes missing in the acoustic music poll.
- Lorenzo - George - Greg (The Dark Elf) |
Posted By: tigerfeet
Date Posted: February 12 2022 at 20:44
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I was going to post this in the last poll but alas did not have time. The good news it it qualifies for this poll and it is one of my favorite discoveries over the past few years. This is my nomination (of course unless everyone has already listened to it in which case I will find something else) Estas Tonne - Song of the Golden Dragon ------------- I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you. Robin Williams. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: February 13 2022 at 03:21
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Nomination: Gideon Freudmann, Rain Monsters (U.S. 2012) Volker Bertelmann aka Hauschka: Constant Growth Fails (DEU 2017) Volker Bertelmann aka Hauschka: Mount Hood (DEU 2010) Ballaké Sissoko: Nan Sira Madi (MAL 2021) |
Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: February 13 2022 at 03:26
Mila, I might expand the scope of the theme. See the "Interactive Poll Team" thread, and if you feel like, please say what you think. 
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: February 13 2022 at 04:56
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This one is rather special to me for different reasons, but here I'll just mention that Barre Phillips gave me (and signed) this album when we were both involved in a retrospective of Robert Kramer's film work in Japan in 2001. BP made much of the music for RK's films and he made this album as an homage to him ("Eight Pieces for Robert Kramer") after RK passed away a bit more than a year earlier. If you like this, don't hesitate to check out Barre Phillips' other work... Solo work on the double bass! Barre Phillips - Dear Doctor: ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: February 13 2022 at 05:11
| I expanded the theme. See the first paragraph of the first post here. And the following paragraph includes the expansion. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: February 13 2022 at 06:02
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How about a classical music cover on banjo. Luca Stricagnoli - Eine Kleine Nachtmusik/Serenade in G This artist was recommended to me by the salesperson (and guitar player for a death metal band) who i bought my car from. Andy McGee - Into the Ocean And then getting away from stringed instruments. Drums. Kofi Baker - Put the Shoe on the Other Foot |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: February 13 2022 at 07:13
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ALTERNATIVE NOMINATION: Ivano Fossati: la Costruzione di un amore (The Construction of Love) to the forumisist: PLEASE, if you got time, TELL ME IF YOU PREFER THE SONG FANTASIA BETICA BY DE FALLA OR THIS SONG BY FOSSATI. The construction of love Break the veins in your hands Mix blood with sweat If you have any left The construction of love It does not repay the pain It is like an altar of sand By the sea The construction of my love I love to watch it go up Like a hundred-story skyscraper Or like a sunflower And I put the experience into it Like on a Christmas tree As a gift to a bride Something that is there And that doesn't hurt And on every floor there is a smile For each winter to pass A Paradise on each floor To consume Behind a door a little love For when there is no time to make love For when you want to throw away My only photograph And in the meantime I look at this love Which gets closer to heaven As if after so much love Heaven still suffice And I'm here And it amazes me Enough to bite my arms, But no, it's me The mirror has my face It is I who look at this love Which gets closer to heaven As if after the horizon There was still sky And all of this amazes me So much so that if it ended now I know I would ask That it collapsed on me And the luck of a love How do I know it can change After it is said I did it to do But it was in order not to die They say it's nice to come back to life That it seemed over to me How nice to come back to see And what's worse is that it's all true Because The construction of love Break the veins in your hands Mix blood with sweat If you have any left The construction of love It does not repay the pain It is like an altar of sand By the sea And in the meantime I look at this love Which gets closer to heaven As if after so much love Heaven still suffice And I'm here And it amazes me Enough to bite my arms, But no, it's me The mirror has my face It is I who look at this love Which becomes as big as the sky As if after the horizon There was still sky And all of this amazes me So much so that if it ended now I know I would ask That it collapsed on me Yes. ------ Out of competition: Born in the Usa, what is it? An acoustic blues song ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: February 13 2022 at 11:10
This is a rather easy choice for me: Manuel de Falla, as played by Rubén Talón. Ivano Fossati's song seems to me a rather conventional ballad: very good, but not groundbreakingly original... ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 13 2022 at 11:26
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For this one, I'm bringing a triptych of Pentanglers. All three are traditional songs. Incidentally, one vocal only, one, instrument only, and one with a vocal and instrument. The irony of not posting 5 songs did not escape me, lol. This will be my nomination, it is a capella of Jacqui McShee singing When I Was In My Prime, from their "Cruel Sister," release of 1970: Secondly is John Renbourn's The English Dance, from his "The Black Balloon," release of 1979: Thirdly is Bert Jansch's wonderful version of Twa Corbies, from his "Moonshine," release of 1973:
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 13 2022 at 11:27
| ^ second video is unavailable to me. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 13 2022 at 11:31
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 13 2022 at 11:34
thanks, that link works for me.
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 13 2022 at 12:08
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 13 2022 at 16:43
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First takes on Page One: Özgür: Colin
Tilney “Handel: Harpsichord Suite 5 in E M - IV air” So stately and beautiful. Obviously perfectly executed. I, too, love the richness of the
harpsichord. A good acoustic solo instrument,
as it doubles itself, basically. Badur’s
Gate II “Harper Theme” As you know, I am
a hobby harper, so it’s obviously a favourite instrument. This one has sort of 3 parts to it, the
melody shifting each time. Quiet and moody,
you can just about picture a bard sitting in a window, while playing. Handel “Chaconne in G Major for Harpsichord” All three of these are quite regal in feel to
me, nice listening for this late afternoon.
Assuming Out of Competition: “Retarded
Beatbox” Seems to be making fun of
beatboxing, so yeah, not to be taken seriously. Someone may have eaten too much
sugar. JD: Wintergatan “Marble Machine” I have seen this before, what a wild original creation of an instrument. Almost a Rube Goldberg-acting thing, sorta. Has a pretty, bright melody, with a vibes-like sound and percussive elements as well. About halfway through, he switches it up for a bit, then back to the bell-like tones of the vibes-ish sounds. “Contact Mic Sound Board DIY” Another experimental instrument, this one has a kalimba sort of thing on the side and lots of little wiry, vibatory things for tapping and striking, for various other sounds. Less of a tune and more of a grouping of various sounds than the first one. Gorkem Sen “Yaybahar” This one has sounds similar to a sitar or cello, being bowed strings, but more of an Indian motif. It also has almost a fluted sound toward the end. The first piece felt more like a complete piece than this one, but I like both of them better than the middle one. Kees: Steve Reich “Violin Fase” A modern minimalist piece, this begins with a repeating violin phrase, begins to shift a bit about 1/5th in, adding some embellishments. Video is fascinating to watch along with it. More shifting sounds about a third in. They certainly both have stamina. Greg: Janis Joplin “Mercedes Benz” Very familiar with the hit song, was all over the radio when I was growing up. I really loved her best with Big Brother and the Holding Company, but I did enjoy this song. Tracy Chapman “Behind the Wall,” Years later, Tracy Chapman was all over the radio as well, let’s see if I remember this one, if it got airplay or not in LA where I was living at the time. Her unmistakeable and beautiful voice tells a sad tale of an abusive relationship. I like that one. Amazing how much can be said in 1 ½ minutes. Christian: Joe Jackson “Nocturne” I’ve enjoyed other Joe Jackson songs, looking forward to hearing this unheard one. Piano to the fore, will there be a vocal? Seems perhaps not, but beautifully played, a spare melancholy melody. Becomes a bit more ornate halfway in, then back to a more pensive feel. Very much to my liking. Lorenzo: Ruben Talon - Manuel de Falla “Fantasía Bética” Dramatic solo piano piece, I am not familiar with it. It is very moving, and does have many ebbs and flows. I hear and see what you mean in your intro re it’s been used percussively. Out of Competition John Fahey “Thus Krishna On The Battlefield” In true Fahey style, fingerpicking on, it sounds like here, a 12-string. He was absolutely a master of both 6- and 12-string guitars and a hugely influential musician. This has a dark feel to it, and a sense of Indian music, apropos of the title. So far, so good, but I know you’re bringing more, so will wait to select a favourite yet. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 13 2022 at 17:20
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Anna von Hausswolff - Sacro Bosco (another one that is maybe too well known here ) |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 13 2022 at 17:24
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I really love some proper church organ work, though I'm not sure whether this is less well known than Anna's. It is also pretty long, but how impressive it is! Olivier Latry plays Olivier Messiaen's Apparition de l'eglise eternelle. |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: February 14 2022 at 13:01
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I've decided to go with the piano work Insektarium by Rued Langgaard (1893-1952). Langgaard was a rather unique composer in Denmark, and during his lifetime he very much stood in the shadow of Carl Nielsen (who basically defined Danish music in those days). Since Langgaard was more in the school of late romanticism, he was rather unpopular in his time, but from the 1960's there was a growing interest in his music. Today his opera Antichrist is generally considered a landmark work in Danish music. Insektarium is a collection of short piano pieces, each representing a specific insect (thereby the name). I have not decided which one I will go with, so here are a few examples: 1, the earwig 2, the migrating grasshopper 7, the housefly 9, the mosquito |
Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: February 14 2022 at 13:05
| ^ I know of Langgaard and like his music, as far as I've listened to. I'll check out your selections tomorrow! |
Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: February 14 2022 at 13:07
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I'll check out the rest of what the other participants shared around this weekend, probably. Sooner or later!
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Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: February 14 2022 at 13:10
Thank you Nickie. Glad that you enjoyed them! |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 05:57
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Would a Chopin nocturne qualify here?
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Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 06:01
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^ Yes, two hands of the same musician is suitable.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 06:19
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ok, here goes, possibly my nomination, unless i come with something else (I had piano jazz piecse in mind). |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 11:35
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First takes on Page Two, with a few additions: Kees: Barre Phillips “Dear Doctor” Somber cello piece
with discordance and melancholy abounding.
There are skittering sounds, like perhaps a fluttering heart. Moves into more discordance and unsettling sounds
and a sense of despair. A hesitant
return occurs right before the end, in the final minute. Lorenzo: Ivan Fossati “la Costruzione di un amore” Romantic
and understated with plenty of the kind of reminiscence one does when
contemplating one’s life (and love) in retrospect. A live performance that is very intimate,
like a living room, late, and listening to a person’s inner thoughts. Out of
Competition: Bruce Springsteen “Born in
the USA” Here Bruce performs his massive
hit acoustically, using a slide on a 12-string, as an intro before launching
into the song, proper. I like this
better than the way the hit was constructed, as it has the feeling of a guy
sitting on his porch and musing on how he got where he is, after all that
happened to him and choices and non-choices that got him to where he is. The Fossati is my favourite of yours, this
time. Christian: Anna von Hausswolff “Sacro Bosco” I am familiar with some other recordings of
hers, which I love. Here is an organ
piece, very eerie, slow build that also becomes ethereal and sparkling before
it concludes. Olivier Latry plays Olivier Messiaen's “Apparition
de l'eglise eternelle” Not heard of it, so not well-known to me, anyway. Ominous sounding church organ here, yet also
quite grand as it builds. It becomes more
forceful and foreboding about halfway in.
It then goes back into the less forceful, yet still grand mode, before ending. I like both Joe and Anna the best here. tigerfeet: Estas Tonne “Song of the Golden
Dragon” Classical style guitar piece, builds
quickly, a bit of a Spanish flair to it (the heat of the dragon?), it gets
quite fiery early on. It changes a bit
thematically, but still keeps up quite a pace, then moves into a softer feel,
with fingerpicking, then back again to the fireworks. About halfway in, another visit to the land
of fingerpicking, this person has incredible stamina! The pace winds down into thoughtfulness and
one more time back to the fray before becoming soft embers. Pretty danged incredible piece. Mila: Ballaké Sissoko “Nan Sira Madi” Kora is a lovely instrument, I was thinking of bringing some, but have brought plenty over the polls, so thought to take a different route. This is very contemplative and has some bright glisses amongst the mostly hypnotic plucking of the deeper strings. There are some bell-like, high notes from time to time. I get the feeling of changing landscapes as the piece moves along. Volker Bertelmann aka Hauschka “Constant Growth Fails” This is very fast-paced, a much more modern sound than your previous. There is a steady, percussive underpinning with some plinky embellishments, very staccato, then some deep bloopy sounds. These all become more vehemently stated, then gradually fade out, with a few extra kicks. Xavier Rudd “Bow Down” Lap guitar sort of instrument, one man band using pedals and such, for looping. After the intro and first verse, the chorus is very vehement, the verse portions are very understated, with some chirping bird sorts of noises. He gets some really great whangy sounds out of the stringed instrument. George: Andy McGee “Into the Ocean” Harp guitarist begins with harmonics and picking. This instrument is very suited to solo work, with the large number of individual strings, some at fretboard and some that are unstopped (hence the name). The piece is very soothing and light, a nice coastal sort of feel to it. Luca Stricagnoli “Eine Kleine Nachtmusik/Serenade in G” This should be fun. 😊 And so it is. Never seen a banjo played quite like this (although David Lindley certainly may have). Very inventive and gives me a new appreciation for the potential versatility of the instrument. Kofi Baker “Put the Shoe on the Other Foot” Another Kofi feature, I have a fond spot for him. As expected, really captivating, especially for a drum solo, right from the start. Like father, like son, plenty of energy exhibited here and keeps one’s interest, hard to do with a drum solo of this length (if one isn’t a drummer). I love the banjo piece the best, for sheer originality in use of the instrument and for pulling off the piece convincingly. Anders: I must say that certain insects are not my favourite creatures before we begin, but will certainly visit with them in musical form. Rued Langgaard “the earwig” Solo piano here, lilting and then dramatic and percussive, with a bit of a dramatic ending, beginning to your selections. “the migrating grasshopper” This one is more scintillating, high notes trilling swiftly along. “the housefly” Erratic as it’s namesake, flitters about, then comes to a sudden stop and moves a bit in place, then off again on it’s eccentric journeying. “the mosquito” Just when you’re drifting off to sleep in summer! Here it is, and you can’t quite seem to get rid of it. Best solution, stick your head under a blanket for a while. They all had something to offer and were distinct from one another, I kind of liked the grasshopper and the housefly the best, though that is no statement on my preference of insect. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 12:14
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My nomination is Dokaka's multitrack all vocal cover of Fracture. I also included a couple others of his that are amazing. I can't his version of Ramblin' Man online though. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 16:28
Thanks Nickie, your comments are always much appreciated! Musically speaking this theme doesn't allow much diversity imo. More or less it boils down to keyboard instruments and classical music if you want a more complex composition. In other genres such as jazz and blues entirely solo piano is very rare. From the category of plucked string instruments I was also considering the lute. But given that the main composers here (Bach, Dowland etc.) are widely known that was not an option for me. I did notice that there was some kora music in the Africa edtion, which was before my time. But Sissoko was not present there, I think. Hauschka is a pianist but he is quite experimental. He is best known for his compositions for prepared piano. That is, the sound of the piano gets temporarily altered by placing various objects on or between the stings which allows different and rich soundscapes. As for the Australian musician Xavier Rudd, he is a multi-instrumentalist and plays in this song in addition to his lap steel guitar also the didgeridoo. Unfortunately the latter is not well audiable in this video. Since he normally performs with his band it was not easy to find a 100% solo performance and esp. an entire song. |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 16:55
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My nomination is the Housefly. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 17:00
What about two of those short pieces? |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 17:14
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^ It depends on Özgür. If he is OK with it, I might. |
Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 23:33
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^ Well, Anders, short tracks are still tracks (though not always songs ). So, all the 4 tracks you put here are eligible for nomination.
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 03:01
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@Nickie I'm glad you liked this romantic and intimate song by Ivano Fossati, an author much loved by Italian women for lyrics (and music) like these. "The construction of love breaks the veins of the hands, mixes blood with sweat, if any remains. It is like a sand altar by the sea." These words (sung with his suffering vicals on the piano) are enough to express admiration for this song. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 05:20
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I always love to read your comments, Nicky. Unfortunately these days there's so much going on at work that I'm happy to just take part but probably won't write much except voting... |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 07:41
It is a very moving song, thank you for bringing it. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 07:42
Keeps me in practice, Christian. I do love to read other's comments on the pieces, but know it does take a chuck on time to not only listen to all, but take time to comment. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 08:02
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@Nickie I am not familiar with the Pentangles even though I have read very good things about them. Of your three songs, the first seems to me the most difficult, with only the voice of the female interpreter, austere, perhaps a little monotone. The second song is a very lively virtuoso piece on guitar with Renaissance reminiscences, very pleasant. The third song is the only one that combines voice and guitar, and perhaps for this reason it seems the most accessible, but it is very melancholy and characterized by the very, very English voice of Jansch: all this gives the folk mark to the piece. They are all short pieces very close to the traditional English-Scottish ones, I think the second piece has a more prog sensibility, the third has a more songwriter-style, I don't know which one to choose between the two. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 08:26
I highly recommend their piece Jack Orion, if you've not heard it, the original version from their "Cruel Sister," release, which illustrates exactly why they are in PA under Prog Folk. All three plus Terry Cox on percussion and the wonderful Danny Thompson on bass guitars were just a powerhouse, imo.
I was going to choose a different John Renbourn solo piece from the same recording (The Moon Shines Bright), but this is a very showy piece. I've seen him live in a very small club in Northern California and alone, he sounded like he was playing two guitars at times. Bert Jansch is from Scotland, he and a young Donovan went to London together in the 60's. Donovan wrote the song Bert's Blues about him. This release is my favourite of his solo works, along with the beautiful release of "Avocet," which featured Martin Jenkins on violin. The way that he pours the Scottish on thick in this piece really makes it sound to me as if this is the way you would have heard the piece sung in it's time. The English version was first printed in 1611, but it's unknown how old it actually is. Lyrics in English and also this version, the Scottish one, are in this wiki, for those who want to figure out what the heck he's singing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three_Ravens *Warning, it's a bit gruesome* ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 10:55
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I stand by the Housefly as my nomination. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 17:01
Given that these very short piano pieces are part of one single musical work I think that by accepting only one of them we'll get to hear just a fragment of a very original opus. And that's what they are, they are not musical pieces in the common sense, not even "movements" of a composition in the classic sense. And indeed, the Insektarium was also described as "9 Puzzle Pictures for Piano". I found a live performance of the entire work divided into two parts/videos (part one, duration 6:28. Part two, duration 6:53). That might be another option? Even though, in fact there is not much of a difference in selecting freely 2-3 of those musical puzzles imo. |
Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: February 17 2022 at 02:43
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^ I think of "rejecting" only parts of the tracks, like a piano solo inside a song, oops track. I changed my word "song" with "track". So I believe what Anders shared there are all tracks and eligible.
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: February 17 2022 at 03:15
I think we are talking past each other. The question is, is it possible to make out of 2-3 of those tiny little pieces one entry? They are all part of one opus, consisting of 9 puzzles, titled "Insectarium".The total length of that composition is about 12 min. |
Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: February 17 2022 at 03:28
| ^ Oh... Not sure... But wouldn't it be weird, kind of? I'd say the entire thing or a single part of it would seem normal. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: February 17 2022 at 04:11
Well, in order to hear what the idea of that composition is about 2-3 of those little pieces would be sufficient (duration between 0:40 - 1:45 each). Each of them representing one insect species. 12 min seems however a bit lengthy. I don't know whether or not a video including the whole composition is even available and in good quality. But it's not my entry. It's up to you guys. |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: February 17 2022 at 04:19
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I'm totally good with just picking one of the insects. In a poll where usually few entries are shorter than 4-5 minutes, an ultra-short piece would clearly stand out just because of that, besides, anyone who wishes to listen to the entire work can always do so. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: February 17 2022 at 04:32
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A compromise would be the video that I posted on the previous page. The piece is split in two parts/videos. It's a live performance, though. |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: February 17 2022 at 06:19
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I think I will stand by the Housefly as my nomination. It is true that showing a handful of the "piano insects" instead of just one might give a better picture of what the work as a whole is about. But then I have already done that since I shared four of them in my first post.
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 17 2022 at 08:52
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Page Three, first takes: Cristi: · François Chaplin Nocturne in C
Minor, Op. 48 No. 1: "A Mademoiselle Laure Duperré" Beautiful solo
piece. Begins somberly, but becomes more
decorated, and then, a bit dramatic. I
can’t help but wonder about the subject.
Was she a tempestuous child, or a woman?
Young, certainly, as “mademoiselle,” would indicate. Piece flows back into a more emotive portion,
perhaps the storm has been averted? Then
all becomes, although still complicated, much more graceful again, to the end. Lovely. Tapfret: Dokaka Cover of “Fracture” A piece I am very familiar with from KC. Here it is taken on purely vocally and quite well, although a bit higher pitched (at least the underlying repeating part). When it breaks into the ascending chords part (as I think of it), the pitch seems lower to me, but unmistakenly the piece of music. Very ambitious, although I do prefer the original, it’s very cleverly done. Dokaka Cover of “Sir Duke,” This Stevie Wonder song I remember as well, this is closer in pitch to my ear. Dokaka Cover of Metallica’s “Creeping Death” This one is also well done, certainly recognizably the song and not quite so high in pitch, although there is kind of an Alvin and the Chipmunks feel to these. I like KC the best, not only because I love the original, but since it was no doubt quite the challenge. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 17 2022 at 09:00
I didn't even pay attention to the pianist's name. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 17 2022 at 10:04
Lots of musicians did sponsored works (as well as painters, of course), and of course, they also did works for people they knew, in one way or another, that they were more naturally inspired by. Many of O'Carolan's harp pieces were sponsored, for instance. When they are so titled, I always wonder about the people, I'll see if I can find out anything about her, only had a chance for a cursory search so far today. Similarly, when I have an old book that is inscribed to someone I didn't know, I am curious about both the gifter and the giftee. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 17 2022 at 10:07
you're probably right.
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 17 2022 at 10:44
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: February 17 2022 at 16:00
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@Anders I introduced your housefly to my mum and she liked it a lot. She's our family's no.1 fly catcher, though. So I'm not quite sure about her motives . . |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: February 18 2022 at 15:09
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I'm not quite sure about the interpretation of the poll rules. Nowadays many artists use f.e. loop machines, distortion pedals and sound effects, and in particular solo artists. Where are the limits with regard to the use of electronic tools? Here's one example (electric cello): And this one is a multi-instrumentalist. She plays all the instruments herself but not simultanously. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: February 18 2022 at 16:52
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Mila's mention of loops and effects reminded me of this vocal performance by an artist who I have nominated before, so not in this competition. Angelica Garcia - Guadalupe |
Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: February 18 2022 at 23:48
Actually, Mila, your suggestions here sound OK. The only "core" criterion is the "single musician" thing. But, I would prefer a single musician that performs music in a single take, like guitars + vocals. There are musicians that can play dozens of instruments, and can make studio albums where they play them separately and record it. It fits the criteria here, but I'd rather it be like a work that "sounds" like it is coming from a single musician. Again, yours are fine. You can nominate any of them. I'm thinking of allowing electronic music. |
Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: February 18 2022 at 23:51
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Attention, hear ye, hear ye!.. The voting period will begin tomorrow. So if anybody wants to join still, this is your last day. For the already participated, please denote what your nomination is soon if you haven't already done that. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: February 19 2022 at 01:55
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I nominate Barre Phillips (I updated my first post accordingly, as you wished). Haven't had the time yet to listen to anything and I'm afraid I won't get to that before next weekend... But, there are a couple of suggestion put up that I already know. ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: February 19 2022 at 01:58
Thank you man! I haven't listened to any except for Anders' great stuff. But I'll listen to all of them in a couple of days, and probably more than once to decide. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 19 2022 at 02:10
| I nominate Chopin's Nocturne in C Minor, Op. 48 No. 1 |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: February 19 2022 at 04:14
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I nominate Rubén Talòn: Fantasia Bética (by Manuel de Falla) (I promise to Nickie that La Costruzione di un amore by Ivano Fossato will come back on these pages ;-)
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: February 19 2022 at 06:33
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My pick will be Wintergatan - Marble Machine------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 19 2022 at 07:02
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This time it was very hard to decide on a nomination... ultimately I decided that I want the church organ, and then Anna von Hausswolff is on PA and probably better known than the Messiaen piece (as is probably Joe Jackson), so I'll go for the latter (despite Nicky as only commenter preferring the two others). So Olivier Latry plays Olivier Messiaen's Apparition de l'eglise eternelle it is. I have only heard some four tracks from the other suggestions yet, and I like them. Very good topic with nice ideas there!
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 19 2022 at 07:40
I am certainly no prophetess as to what will win votes or not, lol. But I have enjoyed the Fossato. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 19 2022 at 07:42
See above, Christian. I hope we do get more commentary on all of this music. Will try and catch up on Page 4 today. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 19 2022 at 08:42
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First Takes on the additions of Mila and George, from Page 4: Mila: Gideon
Freudmann “Rain Monsters” Inventive and
keeps a steady beat throughout (well, that’s looping for ya). After establishing the main beat, the
innovations ensue. This has quite the
rock jam sound to it, I haven’t heard much in this vein that goes that route. Because of the looping, a more complex sound
that most of the other offerings as yet. Park
Jiha “When I Think of Her” This is on
some sort of harp or zither or perhaps a koto sort of instrument. Very pretty and soothing, she must be looping
the one instrument and then adding the more reed or hornlike sound secondarily? Ah, now I see in the video it is a hammered
dulcimer or relative that is the plinky thing. She adds vocal toward the end of
the piece. George: Out
of Competition, Angelica Garcia “Guadalupe”
I remember enjoying her before, George.
I enjoy both the visual part of her performance and the music as well,
part of the fun is in watching her. This
is outside of what I typically like in terms of music only, but she really
sells it with her attitude. As an aside, you must have an incredibly huge collection, with keeping an artist out of competition that you've brought before. I would have been out of these polls ages ago, lol, if I gave myself that caveat. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: February 19 2022 at 12:50
This is awesome! With a little bit of technical equipent you can do a lot and independently. Did you introduce her in a previous poll? |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: February 19 2022 at 13:25
Yeah, that's what I was looking for. This "prepared piano" act that I introduced earlier is another technique to produce a richer sound. But given that we have quite a few piano or keyboard acts already I have tried to find an alternative. I'm a bit worried though that the cellist might be too well known, at least among you Americans? |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 19 2022 at 13:27
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Never heard of the cellist, Mila. But that's just me, perhaps someone else is familiar? ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: February 19 2022 at 13:39
| I'm sure you know the Portland Cello Project, don't you? He's part of it. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 19 2022 at 13:51
For comparison, Oregon is four times larger than Switzerland, yet it has a population that is about one-third the size, according to a quick query. Portland is only 34 miles from me, but they are winding country roads until you get close to the city, then it's very trafficky. Takes from an hour to 90 minutes each way. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: February 19 2022 at 14:11
| Lucky me! Is Oregon your home state? - I don't know all Swiss people either. LoL |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 19 2022 at 14:23
That was very cute, Mila, made me smile. No, California is my home state, I've moved a lot, also lived in Colorado and Tennessee; back and forth over the years. I grew up in a suburb of Los Angeles, way out on a peninsula, but LA proper was very convenient to my little port town, so we did get to see plenty of fantastic live music during those years, several venues being even closer than LA, as well as the ones up in LA and Hollywood. My son spent a summer studying in Switzerland, in Geneva, he just loved it there and would not balk at the chance of returning. You are lucky to live in such a beautiful country. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: February 19 2022 at 15:01
| Oh, what a coincidence! What I like most about Switzerland is the multicultural aspect and also the central location of the country. The lanscape is diverse, many mountains and lakes but I do miss the sea! - I have some relatives in the U.S. i.a. two cousins in Los Angeles. I think that without them I wouldn't have seen half as much of that fascinating but also sprawling city! |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 19 2022 at 15:07
Yes, I miss living next to the sea as well. You could see Catalina Island from many of the homes in my hometown of San Pedro. I also lived in Santa Cruz for quite a few years, a few blocks from the beach there. Still may make one more move to be near the ocean, I've learned to never say, "this is the last move for me!" ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: February 19 2022 at 15:29
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Staying young at heart is a blessing. Change can be hard but it keeps us alive!
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: February 19 2022 at 17:54
Switzerland. I traveled by car through Switzerland to go to Germany twice. I remember the steps of San Bernardo and San Bernardino. I remember a motorway restaurant named Heidi. I visited Locarno and Hermann Hesse's house in Montagnola. I stayed for 5 days in Dornach (train to Basel plus tram that takes you out of town), in a house in front of Rudolf Steiner's Goetheanum, which I visited far and wide. But I don't know German! I taught 3 years in a Steiner's high school in Milan, the only Steiner's high school in Italy. I stayed 4 days in Geneva (direct train from Milan). Gorgeous. Then I took with difficulty (I could not find the stop, and it was night) a bus that was going to Annecy. Just that. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: February 20 2022 at 02:03
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That's interesting! I'm familiar with the anthroposophical philosophy to some extent. I have lived and studied in Basel and have several friends who are anthroposophs. I suppose you know that Beppe Assenza, an Italian painter who hailed from Sicily and studied i.a. at the Brera Academy in Milan, founded the Goetheanum Art School?
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: February 20 2022 at 02:22
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I was quite undecided about my nomination. But given that we have quite a few piano/organ pieces this time around I'll go with the electric cello piece with a bit of a rocky flavour. |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: February 20 2022 at 06:23
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: February 20 2022 at 06:48
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When I was five. My family lived in Germany for a year and we took a trip to Switzerland. While I am sure it was beautiful, my lasting takeaway as a five-year old was Toblerone is great.
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