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Biggles 
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 Topic: Is Bela Bartok prog?Posted: June 29 2005 at 23:16 |
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Bartok and Stravinsky could easily be considered the forefathers of prog.
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The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: June 27 2005 at 02:47 |
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Bartok is also a strong influence in Univers Zero's works.
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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ita_prog_fan
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Posted: June 26 2005 at 11:05 |
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Barṭk Piano Concertos - Peter Donohoe / Birmingham Symph Orch. / Simon Rattle EMI 7 54871 2
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hugo
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Posted: June 22 2005 at 15:34 |
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the first time i saw "the shining" i thought it freaked me out. now i don't really like the movie so much, but i do watch it for the music. bartok was a genius. favorite works: romanian folk dances, the mysterious mandarin, all three piano concertos, and all solo violin pieces and violin sonatas.
he was definitely prog, just not prog rock. |
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Album of the week: Being 7/30/05 Remedy Lane 7/24/05 Pawn Hearts |
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sigod
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Posted: June 22 2005 at 09:42 |
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Ex Police guitarist Andy Summers mentioned at some length that both he
and Robert Fripp used to play Bartok pieces transcribed for the guitar
as duets for fun and if you listen to Bartok, much of it would work
very well on the guitar. Personally I would have LOVED to see Fripp
& Summers play these live.
Much of the work on 'I Advanced Masked' the Fripp/Summers collaboration recorded back in the early 80's sounds very Bartok like. Interestingly enough, this album was the first to feature Fripp with his newly devised New Standard Tuning.  |
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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
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nacho
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Posted: June 22 2005 at 03:41 |
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There is no respect in the forum these days
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Eppur si muove
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Man Overboard
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Posted: June 21 2005 at 19:45 |
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You could amend it to read "sordid".
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The Hemulen
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Posted: June 21 2005 at 19:45 |
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Indeed...
 I retract my last statement.
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Man Overboard
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Posted: June 21 2005 at 19:44 |
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Ouch, topic got moved anyway.
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Garion81
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Posted: June 21 2005 at 19:30 |
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Be nice young man.
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"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?" |
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The Hemulen
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Posted: June 21 2005 at 19:25 |
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SORTED!
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Man Overboard
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Posted: June 21 2005 at 19:23 |
There we go. |
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nacho
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Posted: June 21 2005 at 19:22 |
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Can you edit the thread title to read "Is Bela Bartok prog?" That way it will stay!
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Eppur si muove
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The Hemulen
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Posted: June 21 2005 at 19:22 |
To be fair... they ARE prog. Bartok is classical. Proggy classical, but classical nonetheless - got to draw the line somewhere! |
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Man Overboard
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Posted: June 21 2005 at 19:20 |
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Blaaaah. If we can include Krautrock and RIO and other things retroactively as prog... meh.
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Garion81
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Posted: June 21 2005 at 19:19 |
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Bartok is classical as is the name of this thread, MO. The rest of it maybe prog but not the title. I remember learning a few simple compositons by Bartok when I took piano lessons ages ago. Very tricky and intricate without being bombastic if I remember.
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"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?" |
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Man Overboard
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Posted: June 21 2005 at 19:13 |
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It shouldn't be moved to Non-Prog... Bartok, Flying Food Circus, Samlas, and After Crying are all prog...
 Edit: Sampled a track from Bootleg Symphony... the Great Deceiver part is BRILLIANT! I MUST hear more of these guys. WHY does online ordering TAKE SO LONG!?  Edited by Man Overboard |
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nacho
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Posted: June 21 2005 at 19:08 |
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Before this is moved to the non-prog section: agreed on Bartok!!! The Concert for Orchestra is one of my favourites pieces of music. And yes, you can find many recordings out there. There are some recomendations in the Gramophone Recommended Recordings service (http://www.gramophone.co.uk/recrecordings.asp), but not too many... Also agreed on After Crying!!! If you already placed the order I'm sure you won't be disappointed. I'm particularly fond of their album Bootleg Symphony: it's basically classical music, but including for example a rendition of KC's The Great Deceiver (on orchestra)...
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Eppur si muove
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The Hemulen
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Posted: June 21 2005 at 18:27 |
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Listening to the samples right now... well, that's another demand on my overstretched wallet... *sighs*
If there's one thing guarenteed to sell an album to me it's silly noises. |
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Man Overboard
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Posted: June 21 2005 at 18:16 |
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There's samples here:
Burlesco I can host a couple tracks from the album on my server if ya wanna hear 'em, just tell me which tracks! |
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