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Poll Question: Integral or incidental, your choice
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First thoughts up through George's entries on this page: 

I prophesy disaster:  Windchase “Lamb’s Fry”  Pretty atmospheric (guess that will be a word used a lot in this poll) piece.  Begins with electric piano and lamb baas, full band comes in after a few with guitars, bass, drums and synth.  A middle-eastern vibe going, with a jazzy edge, I quite like this right from the get-go, and also as it continued.  Quite the mover of a piece, love the long guitar solo, too.  Ends nicely with some birdsong intertwined with the music, then a drumroll.  Off to a grand start!

 Mila:  Karlheinz Stockhausen “Kontakte”  Lots of whings, blings, and clonks here.  A conglomerate of different sounds, for me, I am missing a sense of cohesion, but that could be my ignorance of electronica.  This one is not my cup of tea, I sense a coldness in it that just doesn’t appeal to me.  Thylacine “Versailles”  This one I prefer much from the start.  It is also very electronic, obviously, but the sound of the organ at the beginning added more of a human touch that I crave in music.  I like that it has a more discernable rhythm as well, and a feeling of completion, reprising the beginning at the end. TY ft. Mpho “Brixton Baby”  Now THIS hits more notes that appeal to me.  The city sounds, the street performers.  There are synths added and the vocals are very soulful, until the rap part anyway. The rap is of interest also, as commentary of the passersby and culture.   Snippets of steel drums (?) then intersperse with city sounds and conversations and finally back to music overlying everything.  As you probably can tell, this is my favourite of yours here.  

Christian:  Sohrab “Zarrin”  Slow builder here, not sure what the opening sounds are, but a nice washy thing enters and swells.  There are subtle little wriggles show up under the repeating washy part.  Just lovely and contemplative, soothing yet kept my interest up.  Fred Frith “Same Old Me”  Funny start with sneezing!  Love the messing around on the stringed thing and the Farfisa type organ.  Sarcastic spoken vocal, there is certainly a sense of anxiety and hopelessness here.  Some ironically jolly little horns peep in, probably done on synth.  Fun!  Lewian “Distant by Funex”  Sounds almost like a typewriter type keyboard at the start, a repeating chord on piano and little tinkly sounds (teaspoons in cups?).  Little whirlies join in and some more kind of stirring, swishing sounds.  Sometimes serene, sometimes a little disturbing, with some discordant sounds peppered into the mix.  Intriguing!  And congrats on doing your own music.  I actually enjoyed all of yours, as I often do.  You’ve opened my ears to a lot in this genre over the polls. 

George:  Tyondai Braxton “Casine Trem”  Fun romp with whomps and whiddleys (clarinets?).  Sounds like most is on synths, as far as keyboards, although there are some strings that sound like violin and or cello.  Little percussive stick things going on.  Makes me think of cartoons, not that it’s laughable, but deliberately done with some humour.  It also get dramatic in parts, with dissonance.  Paula Matthusen “The Ontology of an Echo”  Drips and odd bowed sounds, plinks and plonks and whizzies.  This one becomes more contemplative as it moves along, ending with bowed cello.  Lovely.   Renė Lussier “Nocturnal”  Some quiet moments at first, then some bangs and wongly brass and electric guitar, mostly discordant.  Ominous.  A jazzy kind of section commences, with drums and piano and clarinet (?).  Deep breaths and snoring sounds, kinda (on cello). More slippy slideys.  Christian Marclay “Fade to Slide”  Industrial start this off, and some water and clicky-clackies, strings again (which are really great for staccato sounds, creating tension).  Very discordant and jumpy.  Oooh, a harp!  Bagpipes and accordions being tortured!  Probably obvious that my favourite here is “The Ontology of an Echo.” 


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An obvious choice perhaps but a favorite lp and  band ,an exquisite song.......


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Thanks Nickie. Your comments and descriptions are well appreciated.
The Bang On A Can All-Stars is typically a six-person lineup on percussion, keyboards/piano, cello, bass, clarinets, and guitar. For Casino Trem, I think some of the synthesizer sounds comes from the field recordings of casino slot machines. My familiarity of these sounds drew me into that track. I should have included a live performance by the group, so here's one for Casino Trem.



A couple of additional notes: the composer Tyondai Braxton is a former member of the math rock band Battles, so there is that prog connection.

And Renė Lussier is a jazz guitarist and was part of the Fred Frith Guitar Quartet.
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Here's a second one "within competition" - I wanted to find something that is neither listed on PA nor of an artist I had previously used (quite a number of earlier suggestions and nominations of mine actually include field recordings), and also not something that is really dominated by field recordings, but something  of a song with a melody and all that, and with some occasional recordings thrown in.

What I found is this piece by the Tear Garden, who I actually once proposed for inclusion here, but they were rejected. The Tear Garden is a side project of Edward Ka-Spel of the Legendary Pink Dots. This one is one of the best, for me, out of the huge catalogue of things he has his hands in.

The Tear Garden - Turn me on, dead man



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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:


Christian:  Sohrab “Zarrin”  Slow builder here, not sure what the opening sounds are, but a nice washy thing enters and swells.  There are subtle little wriggles show up under the repeating washy part.  Just lovely and contemplative, soothing yet kept my interest up.  Fred Frith “Same Old Me”  Funny start with sneezing!  Love the messing around on the stringed thing and the Farfisa type organ.  Sarcastic spoken vocal, there is certainly a sense of anxiety and hopelessness here.  Some ironically jolly little horns peep in, probably done on synth.  Fun!  Lewian “Distant by Funex”  Sounds almost like a typewriter type keyboard at the start, a repeating chord on piano and little tinkly sounds (teaspoons in cups?).  Little whirlies join in and some more kind of stirring, swishing sounds.  Sometimes serene, sometimes a little disturbing, with some discordant sounds peppered into the mix.  Intriguing!  And congrats on doing your own music.  I actually enjoyed all of yours, as I often do.  You’ve opened my ears to a lot in this genre over the polls.


That's so nice, thanks! Indeed there are teaspoons in cups - I contributed field recordings (in fact I usually have a recorder with me, so I record stuff regularly that I then often use in music) and mixing to this (and the piano), but my two partners in Funex do the noises themselves, partly with stuff in their kitchen, manipulated instruments etc.


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OK last thing for this poll (although I could go on for much longer) - out of competition one by the grandmaster himself (I  mean my avatar man of course). Drums by another icon, Jaki LIebezeit. Holger Czukay - Traeum mal wieder



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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

I prophesy disaster:  Windchase “Lamb’s Fry”  Pretty atmospheric (guess that will be a word used a lot in this poll) piece.  Begins with electric piano and lamb baas, full band comes in after a few with guitars, bass, drums and synth.  A middle-eastern vibe going, with a jazzy edge, I quite like this right from the get-go, and also as it continued.  Quite the mover of a piece, love the long guitar solo, too.  Ends nicely with some birdsong intertwined with the music, then a drumroll.  Off to a grand start!
 
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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Thanks Nickie. Your comments and descriptions are well appreciated.
The Bang On A Can All-Stars is typically a six-person lineup on percussion, keyboards/piano, cello, bass, clarinets, and guitar. For Casino Trem, I think some of the synthesizer sounds comes from the field recordings of casino slot machines. My familiarity of these sounds drew me into that track. I should have included a live performance by the group, so here's one for Casino Trem.

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A couple of additional notes: the composer Tyondai Braxton is a former member of the math rock band Battles, so there is that prog connection.

And Renė Lussier is a jazz guitarist and was part of the Fred Frith Guitar Quartet.

That was a fun little romp.  And yes, the sounds were certainly like slot machines, not my favourite environment.  That being said, when it moved along from the less-obvious casino sounds, it had a lot of sense of movement in it and comedic sense as well.  
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I got nothing this round, I might sit this one out. Embarrassed
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These last two weeks I've been mainly offline, and now just dropping in because I didn't want to miss this poll. Not much time thus to look for different things, but I immediately thought of one of my favourite musique concrète composers: Luc Ferrari. His better compositions are longer pieces, but this one is not bad either, imo... It is still a bit long, so this will be my one and only submission and thus my nomination.

Luc Ferrari - Presque rien avec filles:





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My nomination:

Alberto Fortis: Mary

(In the beginning: che Sioux song for the rain)




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Out of competition:

F. De André: Creuza de ma (sung in Genoese dialect)



Gang: Johnny lo zingaro





Edited by jamesbaldwin - January 08 2022 at 19:25
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Hoping to hear from Nick, as well.  Will be interested in what he brings.  Smile
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^ Nickie, You've already heard the song "Mary".
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Thank you for reminding me, Lorenzo!  
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Hoping to hear from Nick, as well.  Will be interested in what he brings.  Smile

I have been stupidly busy, but I will do my best to sort something out. Thanks for thinking of me!

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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Hoping to hear from Nick, as well.  Will be interested in what he brings.  Smile

I have been stupidly busy, but I will do my best to sort something out. Thanks for thinking of me!

  As long as it doesn't add unnecessary stress!  Smile
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Here are my first takes Page Two, thus far, with one addition:

Christian:  Holger Czukay “Traum Mal Wieder”  Chanting sort of vocals, male and female and some radio sounds.  A bit eerie and ominous.  Percussive bits and some cityish sounds, more of the choral chanting. Bits of guitar enter, and become more prominent.  This one also had good build of tension throughout, with the percussion coming more to the fore and the choral chanting way to the back as it concludes, with just the percussion ending.  Once again, I enjoy all of your contributions this time.  

dr wu23:  XTC “Summer’s Cauldron”  Crickets.  Sure makes me miss summer!  I am not as familiar with XTC’s repertoire as I should be, but have always liked whatever I’ve heard and this is no exception.  Birds continue chirping here and harmonica (or accordion, or on a keyboard?).  Trees dancing drunk with nectar, lovely lyrics.  

Kees:  Luc Ferrari “Presque Rien Avec Files”  Whirrs and skirrs to start.  Storm sound and almost imperceptible tapping, or footsteps.  Metallic sounds.  All is very muffled, there are also sort of maraca sounds in there.  Birds chirping come to the fore, with some industrial type deep booms, but from a distance.  Whirrs and whomps, maybe the sound of a large piece of aluminum being moved, then some drum beats and cricket sounds, with muffled voices and a cry of some sort.  Woman voices and drums again, with loud whomps and muted marimba sounds, or someone running their fingers across a comb?  Male voice and birds.  I’m imagining this is all on some sort of back alleyway/street, with some overdubs of things, later.  Fun listen.

Lorenzo:  Alberto Fortis “Mary”  Video was unavailable for me, however, Lorenzo reminded me that I’ve heard this one.  Very beautiful, passionate song!  F. De André “Creuza de ma”  (Out of Competition)  Begins with bagpipes, perhaps Genoese ones?  (a great instrument for the outdoors!).  Band enters, male vocalist, I like the earthiness of this piece.  The chorus is very rich and lush.  Lovely acoustic stringed instrument played during the bridge.  I enjoyed this group way back in the polls, as well as the first selection, here, but this is different than the piece presented then.  Village street sounds/music/singing at end. Lovely.  Gang “Johnny Lo Zingaro”  Another very village/folk sound from the start, a solo woman singing.  Full band then, in a spare arrangement at first.  Reminds me, in spirit, of some of the Breton musicians who blended rock with folk, such as Malicorne.  Violin solo is very folkish and delightful.  The pace picks up into more of a jig/reel pace.  This would be my fave of yours, with F. De André being out of competition. 





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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Here are my first takes Page Two, thus far, with one addition:

Christian:  <span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:107%; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi; :yellow;mso-highlight:yellow;mso-ansi-:EN-US;mso-fareast-: EN-US;mso-bidi-:AR-SA">Holger Czukay “Traum Mal Wieder”  Chanting sort of vocals, male and female and
some radio sounds.  A bit eerie and
ominous.  Percussive bits and some
cityish sounds, more of the choral chanting. Bits of guitar enter, and become
more prominent.  This one also had good
build of tension throughout</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height: 107%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi; mso-ansi-:EN-US;mso-fareast-:EN-US;mso-bidi-:AR-SA">, <span style=":yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">with the percussion coming more
to the fore and the choral chanting way to the back as it concludes, with just
the percussion ending.</span>  Once again, I enjoy all of your contributions this time.  </span>

dr wu23:  <span style=": yellow;">XTC “Summer’s Cauldron”  Crickets. 
Sure makes me miss summer!  I am
not as familiar with XTC’s repertoire as I should be, but have always liked
whatever I’ve heard and this is no exception. 
Birds continue chirping here and harmonica (or accordion, or on a
keyboard?).  Trees dancing drunk with
nectar, lovely lyrics.</span>  
<p ="msonospacing"=""><o:p></o:p>



<p ="msonospacing"="">Kees:  Luc
Ferrari “Presque Rien Avec Files”  Whirrs
and skirrs to start.  Storm sound and
almost imperceptible tapping, or footsteps. 
Metallic sounds.  All is very
muffled, there are also sort of maraca sounds in there.  Birds chirping come to the fore, with some
industrial type deep booms, but from a distance.  Whirrs and whomps, maybe the sound of a large
piece of aluminum being moved, then some drum beats and cricket sounds, with
muffled voices and a cry of some sort.  Woman
voices and drums again, with loud whomps and muted marimba sounds, or someone
running their fingers across a comb?  Male
voice and birds.  I’m imagining this is
all on some sort of back alleyway/street, with some overdubs of things,
later.  Fun listen.

<p ="msonospacing"=""><o:p></o:p>



<p ="msonospacing"="">Lorenzo: 
Alberto Fortis “Mary”  Video was
unavailable for me, however, Lorenzo reminded me that I’ve heard this one.  Very beautiful, passionate song!  F. De André “Creuza de ma”  (Out of Competition)  Begins with bagpipes, perhaps Genoese ones?  (a great instrument for the outdoors!).  Band enters, male vocalist, I like the
earthiness of this piece.  The chorus is
very rich and lush.  Lovely acoustic stringed
instrument played during the bridge.  I
enjoyed this group way back in the polls, as well as the first selection, here,
but this is different than the piece presented then.  Village street sounds/music/singing at end.
Lovely.  <span style=": yellow;">Gang “Johnny Lo Zingaro” 
Another very village/folk sound from the start, a solo woman
singing.  Full band then, in a spare
arrangement at first.  Reminds me, in
spirit, of some of the Breton musicians who blended rock with folk, such as
Malicorne.  Violin solo is very folkish
and delightful.  The pace picks up into
more of a jig/reel pace.</span>  This
would be my fave of yours, with F. De André being out of competition. 

<p ="msonospacing"=""><o:p></o:p>






Alberto Fortis : Mary

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Yes, thank you, Lorenzo!  Sounds much the same as the one I have, but a little different in terms of sound quality.  Neither better nor worse, but sounds different, as in perhaps what the recording was from, LP or CD etc

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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Yes, thank you, Lorenzo!  Sounds much the same as the one I have, but a little different in terms of sound quality.  Neither better nor worse, but sounds different, as in perhaps what the recording was from, LP or CD etc

Thanks to Nickie, I have changed idea:

My nomination:

F. De André: Creuza de Ma






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