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    Posted: October 31 2021 at 01:30

Top 100 all-time of Progressive Rock as a meta-genre.

Made in March-April 2019 based on all the ratings on RateYourMusic and ProgArchives 

but only 1 (studio) album from each band is included. The averages of all the ratings 

are weighted according to the number of raters on RYM and PA respectively, 

and then recalculated to 15-scale.


Pink Floyd  (UK) :   The Dark Side Of the Moon  (1973)   12,7 (44.900 r.)

King Crimson  (UK) :   In The Court Of The Crimson King  (1969)   13,0 (32.100 r.)

Yes  (UK) :   Close To The Edge  (1972)   12,7 (18.900 r.)

Godspeed You! Black Emperor  (CAN) :  Lift Yr. Skinny… (2000)   12,5 (23.500 r.)

Genesis  (UK) :   Selling England By The Pound  (1973)   12,6 (14.700 r.)

Jethro Tull  (UK) :   Thick As A Brick  (1972)   12,6 (11.900 r.)

Can  (D) :   Tago Mago  (1971)   12,3 (16.600 r.)

Frank Zappa  (US) :   Hot Rats  (1969)   12,3 (14.900 r.)

Tool  (US) :   Lateralus  (2001)   11,9 (16.500 r.)

Rush  (CAN) :   Moving Pictures  (1981)   12,0 (13.200 r.)

Opeth  (S) :   Blackwater Park  (2001)   11,9 (13.300 r.)

 

Porcupine Tree  (UK) :   In Absentia  (2002)   11,7 (11.200 r.)

The Mars Volta  (US) :   De-Loused In The Comatorium  (2003)   11,5 (13.500 r.)

Camel  (UK) :   Mirage  (1974)   12,3 (8.700 r.)

Van Der Graaf Generator  (UK) :   Pawn Hearts  (1971)   12,2 (6.800 r.)

Robert Wyatt  (UK) :   Rock Bottom  (1974)   12,0 (8.000 r.)

Comus  (UK) :   First Utterance  (1971)   12,0 (7.500 r.)

Dream Theater  (US) :   Images And Words  (1992)   11,5 (11.600 r.)

Mastodon  (US) :   Crack the Skye  (2009)   11,6 (9.400 r.)

Caravan  (UK) :   In The Land Of Grey And Pink  (1971)   12,0 (6.400 r.)

Soft Machine  (UK) :   Third  (1970)   11,9 (6.800 r.)

Gentle Giant  (UK) :   Octopus  (1972)   11,9 (6.200 r.)

Faust  (D) :   Faust IV  (1974)   11,7 (7.100 r.)

NEU!  (D) :   NEU!  (1972)   11,5 (9.000 r.)

Captain Beefheart  (US) :   Trout Mask Replica  (1969)   11,2 (12.000 r.)

Marillion  (UK) :   Misplaced Childhood  (1985)   11,8 (6.000 r.)

Mahavishnu Orchestra  (US) :   Birds of Fire  (1973)   11,9 (4.900 r.)

The Mothers  (US) :   The Grand Wazoo  (1972)   11,9 (4.800 r.)

Amon Düül II  (D) :   Yeti  (1970)   11,7 (6.300 r.)

Queensryche  (US) :   Operation : Mindcrime  (1988)   11,7 (6.200 r.)

 

Premiata Forneria Marconi  (I) :   Per Un Amico  (1972)   12,3 (3.600 r.)

Atheist  (US) :   Unquestionable Presence  (1991)   11,7 (5.700)

Mr. Bungle  (US) :  California  (1999)   11,6 (6.800)

Emerson, Lake & Palmer  (UK) :   Emerson, Lake & Palmer  (1970)   11,6 (6.300 r.)

Mike Oldfield  (UK) :   Ommadown  (1975)   12,0 (4.500 r.)

Änglagård  (S) :   Hybris  (1992)   12,2 (3.400 r.)

Tangerine Dream  (D) :   Phaedra  (1974)   11,5 (6.300 r.)

Steven Wilson  (UK) :   The Raven that Refused…  (2013)   11,5 (6.200 r.)

Riverside  (PL) :   Second Life Syndrome  (2005)   11,9 (4.200 r.)

Harmonium  (CAN) :   Si On Avait Besoin…  (1975)   12,1 (3.400 r.)

Renaissance  (UK) :   Scheherazade And Other Stories  (1975)   12,1 (3.000 r.)

Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso  (I) :   Darwin!  (1972)   12,1 (2.800 r.)

Wishbone Ash  (UK) :   Argus  (1972)   11,8 (4.100 r.)

Pain of Salvation  (S) :   Remedy Lane  (2002)   11,8 (3.800 r.)

Hawkwind  (UK) :   Space Ritual  (1973)   12,0 (3.200 r.)

Steve Hackett  (UK) :   Voyage Of The Acolyte  (1975)   12,0 (3.100 r.)

The Moody Blues  (UK) :   Days Of Future Passed  (1967)   11,6 (5.600 r.)

Magma  (F) :   Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh  (1973)   11,6 (5.100 r.)

Santana  (US) :   Caravanserai  (1972)   11,8 (3.100 r.)

Edge of Sanity  (S) :   Crimson  (1996)   11,7 (4.200 r.)

Museo Rosenbach  (I) :   Zarathustra  (1973)   12,1 (2.100 r.)

Gong  (F) :   You  (1974)   11,7 (3.500 r.)

Cynic  (US) :   Focus  (1993)   11,3 (5.700 r.)

Kansas  (US) :   Leftoverture  (1976)   11,6 (3.700 r.)

Jean-Michel Jarre  (F) :   Oxygene  (1976)   11,4 (4.600 r.)

Peter Hammill  (UK) :   The Silent Corner And…  (1974)   12,0 (2.200 r.)

Uriah Heep  (UK) :   Look at Yourself  (1971)   11,7 (3.000 r.)

Voivod  (CAN) :   Nothingface  ( 1989)   11,7 (2.800 r.)

Focus  (NL) :   Hamburger Concerto  (1974)   12,0 (2.100 r.)

Khan  (UK) :   Space Shanty  (1972)   12,0 (2.000 r.)

Devin Townsend  (CAN) :   Terria  (2001)   11,6 (3.400 r.)

Maudlin of the Well  (US) :   Bath  (2001)   11,5 (3.900 r.)

 

Bacamarte  (Bra) :   Depois Do Fim  (1983)   12,1 (1.600 r.)

Kayo Dot  (US) :   Choirs Of the Eye  (2003)  11,4 (3.700 r.)

Flower Travellin’ Band  (J) :   Satori  (1971)   11,4 (3.600 r.)

IQ  (UK) :   The Road of Bones  (2014)   12,0 (1.800 r.)

Le Orme  (I) :   Felona E Sorona  (1973)   11,9 (2.200 r.)

Popol Vuh  (D) :   In den Gärten Pharaos  (1971)   11,4 (3.300 r.)

Traffic  (UK) :   John Barleycorn Must Die  (1970)   11,4 (3.200 r.)

The Alan Parsons Project  (US) :   Tales Of Mystery… (1976)   11,4 (3.100 r.)

Big Big Train  (UK) :   English Electric (Part One)  (2012)   12,1 (1.400 r.)

Al Di Meola  (US) :   Elegant Gypsy  (1977)   11,8 (2.400 r.)

Ayreon  (NL) :   The Human Equation  (2004)   11,3 (3.900 r.)

Phideaux  (US) :   Doomsday Afternoon  (2007)   12,0 (1.500 r.)

Between the Buried and Me  (US) :   Colors  (2007)   10,9 (5.300 r.)

Arcturus  (N) :   The Sham Mirros  (2002)   11,3 (3.600 r.)

Transatlantic  (US) :   Bridge Across Forever  (2001)   11,8 (2.000 r.)

Roy Harper  (UK) :   Stormcock  (1971)   11,7 (2.700 r.)

Eloy  (D) :   Ocean  (1977)   11,7 (2.500 r.)

Area  (I) :   Arbeit Macht Frei  (1973)   11,7 (2.500 r.)

Billy Cobham  (US) :   Spectrum  (1973)   11,7 (2.400 r.)

T2  (UK) :   It’ll All Work out in Boomland  (1970)   11,7 (2.200 r.)

Hatfield and the North  (UK) :   Hatfield and the North  (1974)   11,7 (2.100 r.)

Haken  (UK) :   The Mountain  (2013)   11,5 (2.800 r.)

Captain Beyond  (US) :   Captain Beyond  (1972)   11,5 (2.700 r.)

 

Ash Ra Tempel  (D) :   Ash Ra Tempel  (1971)   11,3 (3.200 r.)

Nektar  (UK) :   A Tab In The Ocean  (1972)   11,6 (2.100 r.)

Colosseum  (UK) :   Valentyne Suite  (1969)   11,6 (2.100 r.)

Return to Forever  (US) :   Romantic Warrior  (1976)   11,5 (2.300 r.)

Symphony X  (US) : The Divine Wings Of Tragedy  (1997)   11,4 (2.800 r.)

Manuel Göttsching  (D) :   E2-E4  (1984)   11,4 (2.700 r.)

Negura Bunget  (Rom) :   Om  (2006)   11,3 (3.100 r.)

Aphrodite’s Child  (Gre) :   666  (1972)   11,2 (3.700 r.)

Bubu  (ARG) :   Anabelas  (1978)   11,9 (1.400 r.)

Triana  (ESP) :   El Patio  (1975)   11,8 (1.600 r.)

Anathema  (UK) :   A Natural Disaster  (2003)   11,2 (3.400 r.)

Il Balletto di Bronzo  (I) :   Ys  (1972)   11,7 (1.800 r.)

Spock’s Beard  (US) :   V  (2000)   11,7 (1.800 r.)

Invisible  (ARG) :   El Jardin de los Presentes  (1976)   11,9 (1.300 r.)

Klaus Schulze  (D) :   Mirage  (1977)   11,7 (1.700 r.)

Rick Wakeman  (UK) :   The Six Wives Of Henry VIII  (1973)   11,4 (2.200 r.)


To see an additional part to this list, top 100-160 look here:

Top 100-160 all-time as rated on RYM and PA 

Edit:

The definition of Progressive Rock as a meta-genre, I've used as a basis for this list, is following:

1. be a synthesis/fusion of Rock (significantly present) and at least one of other "main genres": 

Classical, Jazz, Folk, electronic avant-garde or other avant-garde, AND

2. be rather complex or at least to some extent experimental in another way than #1.

”electronic avant-garde” is here primarily Musique Concrete and Minimalism while 

”other avant-garde” include Free and Avant-Jazz and Contemporary Classical.

For the full description and considerations regarding this definition look here

How to define and classify Progressive Rock? 



Edited by David_D - October 25 2024 at 04:08
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so what is the thread question? What are we supposed to do? Confused
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

so what is the thread question? What are we supposed to do? Confused

Well, it's meant as a "recommendation", or for the curious ones.


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Apart from it being a list of albums with some numbers (ratings?) which quite frankly I can't make head or tail of, I can't see what this thread is all about.
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Good work with compiling this list. Thumbs Up  These are the albums from your list that I'd include in my own personal Top 200:-

Pink Floyd  (UK) :   The Dark Side Of the Moon  (1973)   12,7 (44.900 r.)
King Crimson  (UK) :   In The Court Of The Crimson King  (1969)   13,0 (32.100 r.)
Yes  (UK) :   Close To The Edge  (1972)   12,7 (18.900 r.)
Genesis  (UK) :   Selling England By The Pound  (1973)   12,6 (14.700 r.)
Camel  (UK) :   Mirage  (1974)   12,3 (8.700 r.)
Dream Theater  (US) :   Images And Words  (1992)   11,5 (11.600 r.)
Caravan  (UK) :   In The Land Of Grey And Pink  (1971)   12,0 (6.400 r.)
Emerson, Lake & Palmer  (UK) :   Emerson, Lake & Palmer  (1970)   11,6 (6.300 r.)
Mike Oldfield  (UK) :   Ommadown  (1975)   12,0 (4.500 r.)
Renaissance  (UK) :   Scheherazade And Other Stories  (1975)   12,1 (3.000 r.)
Steve Hackett  (UK) :   Voyage Of The Acolyte  (1975)   12,0 (3.100 r.)
Wishbone Ash  (UK) :   Argus  (1972)   11,8 (4.100 r.)
The Moody Blues  (UK) :   Days Of Future Passed  (1967)   11,6 (5.600 r.)
Khan  (UK) :   Space Shanty  (1972)   12,0 (2.000 r.)
Flower Travellin’ Band  (J) :   Satori  (1971)   11,4 (3.600 r.)
Focus  (NL) :   Hamburger Concerto  (1974)   12,0 (2.100 r.)
IQ  (UK) :   The Road of Bones  (2014)   12,0 (1.800 r.)
The Alan Parsons Project  (US) :   Tales Of Mystery… (1976)   11,4 (3.100 r.)
Ayreon  (NL) :   The Human Equation  (2004)   11,3 (3.900 r.)
Eloy  (D) :   Ocean  (1977)   11,7 (2.500 r.)
Nektar  (UK) :   A Tab In The Ocean  (1972)   11,6 (2.100 r.)
Rick Wakeman  (UK) :   The Six Wives Of Henry VIII  (1973)   11,4 (2.200 r.)

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Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

Apart from it being a list of albums with some numbers (ratings?) which quite frankly I can't make head or tail of, I can't see what this thread is all about.

About the numbers, the first one is the average of all the ratings, recalculated from 5-scale to 15-scale, and the second number is the total of all the ratings. 
My intention of this thread is to present relatively objective (more proper, intersubjective) top 100 as a recommendation of what can be said to be generally considered among the very best albums - yes, meant as a recommendation of or orientation about.


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"Good work with compiling this list."

Thank you. As you can imagine, it has been quite a bit of work, and quite a lot of thinking and making choices.
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Fine by me to have a thread like this and nice work. We have discussed pros and cons of various Top 100s for a long time, here's another one. Why not?

Question: What exactly did you do? Did you average  RYM and PA 50/50, or did you weight them somehow (e.g., number of raters)?  What exactly does "recalculation to 15-scale" mean? As far as I can see, RYM goes from 0 to 5, PA from 1 to 5, do you mean you transformed both of them linearly to 1-15 or 0-15?

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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Fine by me to have a thread like this and nice work. We have discussed pros and cons of various Top 100s for a long time, here's another one. Why not?

Question: What exactly did you do? Did you average  RYM and PA 50/50, or did you weight them somehow (e.g., number of raters)?  What exactly does "recalculation to 15-scale" mean? As far as I can see, RYM goes from 0 to 5, PA from 1 to 5, do you mean you transformed both of them linearly to 1-15 or 0-15?


The average is weighted according to the number of raters on RYM and PA respectively, as the number of ratings is mostly much larger on RYM then PA. That is why this list is particularly interesting comparing to PA list.
And yes, the recalculation to 15-scale is just multiplication of the average by 3.


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Good to know! Better than any proglist I've ever seen in any magazine/or made by "experts". Here's my personal favorite 50 out of the top 100. The ca. 30 first are essential to me, and I need to own the 20 next ones as well. Quite indifferent to the rest of these:

Robert Wyatt  (UK) :   Rock Bottom  (1974)  
Gong  (F) :   You  (1974)   
Tangerine Dream  (D) :   Phaedra  (1974)  
Soft Machine  (UK) :   Third  (1970)
Klaus Schulze  (D) :   Mirage  (1977)
Comus  (UK) :   First Utterance  (1971)
King Crimson  (UK) :   In The Court Of The Crimson King  (1969)  
Peter Hammill  (UK) :   The Silent Corner And…  (1974)
Van Der Graaf Generator  (UK) :   Pawn Hearts  (1971)  
Roy Harper  (UK) :   Stormcock  (1971)
Miles Davis  (US) :   Bitches Brew  (1970)
Camel  (UK) :   Mirage  (1974)  
Can  (D) :   Tago Mago  (1971)   
Amon Düül II  (D) :   Yeti  (1970)  
Area  (I) :   Arbeit Macht Frei  (1973)  
Hatfield and the North  (UK) :   Hatfield and the North  (1974)
Santana  (US) :   Caravanserai  (1972)   
Premiata Forneria Marconi  (I) :   Per Un Amico  (1972)
Flower Travellin’ Band  (J) :   Satori  (1971)  
Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso  (I) :   Darwin!  (1972)
Steve Hackett  (UK) :   Voyage Of The Acolyte  (1975)  
Aphrodite’s Child  (Gre) :   666  (1972)
Magma  (F) :   Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh  (1973)
Ash Ra Tempel  (D) :   Ash Ra Tempel  (1971)   
Museo Rosenbach  (I) :   Zarathustra  (1973)
Le Orme  (I) :   Felona E Sorona  (1973)  
Frank Zappa  (US) :   Hot Rats  (1969)     
Genesis  (UK) :   Selling England By The Pound  (1973)
Yes  (UK) :   Close To The Edge  (1972)  
Caravan  (UK) :   In The Land Of Grey And Pink  (1971)
Jean-Michel Jarre  (F) :   Oxygene  (1976)
Godspeed You! Black Emperor  (CAN) :  Lift Yr. Skinny… (2000)  
Faust  (D) :   Faust IV  (1974)  
Pink Floyd  (UK) :   The Dark Side Of the Moon  (1973)
Black Sabbath  (UK) :   Paranoid  (1970)
Wishbone Ash  (UK) :   Argus  (1972)
The Moody Blues  (UK) :   Days Of Future Passed  (1967)
The Mothers  (US) :   The Grand Wazoo  (1972)  
Gentle Giant  (UK) :   Octopus  (1972)
Mr. Bungle  (US) :  California  (1999)
NEU!  (D) :   NEU!  (1972)
Kayo Dot  (US) :   Choirs Of the Eye  (2003)
T2  (UK) :   It’ll All Work out in Boomland  (1970)
Tool  (US) :   Lateralus  (2001)
Il Balletto di Bronzo  (I) :   Ys  (1972)
Traffic  (UK) :   John Barleycorn Must Die  (1970)
Kraftwerk  (D) :   Autobahn  (1974)
Opeth  (S) :   Blackwater Park  (2001)
Popol Vuh  (D) :   In den Gärten Pharaos (1971)
Renaissance  (UK) :   Scheherazade And Other Stories  (1975)  
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Oh, and I do need Thick as a Brick as well
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Saperlipopette wrote:
"Good to know! Better than any proglist I've ever seen in any magazine/or made by "experts". "

Thank you very much for your appreciation, and in all my humble opinion, I agree because it's much more "democratic", meaning representive  for the general opinion. 
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Fine by me to have a thread like this and nice work. We have discussed pros and cons of various Top 100s for a long time, here's another one. Why not?

Question: What exactly did you do? Did you average  RYM and PA 50/50, or did you weight them somehow (e.g., number of raters)?  What exactly does "recalculation to 15-scale" mean? As far as I can see, RYM goes from 0 to 5, PA from 1 to 5, do you mean you transformed both of them linearly to 1-15 or 0-15?


The average is weighted according to the number of raters on RYM and PA respectively, as the number of ratings is mostly much larger on RYM then PA. That is why this list is particularly interesting comparing to PA list.
And yes, the recalculation to 15-scale is just multiplication of the average by 3.

Not meant as a criticism but rather because I tend to be obsessed with this kind of thing...  as the RYM scale goes from zero to five, I'd have transformed this as (1+x)*5/6 first in order to transform it to 1-5 as the PA scale goes.
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:
"...  as the RYM scale goes from zero to five, I'd have transformed this as (1+x)*5/6 first in order to transform it to 1-5 as the PA scale goes."

Sorry, I misunderstood your question about this. And I guess, what you suggest would be most exactly.

Edit:
But I'm not quite sure about that.


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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:
"...  as the RYM scale goes from zero to five, I'd have transformed this as (1+x)*5/6 first in order to transform it to 1-5 as the PA scale goes."

By the way, could that be some of the explanation for why PA averages tend to be quite a lot higher than RYM's?
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Cool list. One release per band is excellent. Some essential artists, imo, that were overlooked.

Allan Holdsworth
Pat Metheny
Mike Keneally
National Health
Steely Dan
Izz
The Aristocrats
Sanguine Hum
Echolyn
Thank You Scientist
Thieves' Kitchen
Dixie Dregs
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An "all-time top albums list" doesn't quite seem right while limiting bands to one submission per. The Beatles, the Stones, Elton John, U2, Pink Floyd, Radiohead, Coldplay, Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze, Miles Davis, John Coltrane, W.A Mozart, J.S. Bach, and Giacomo Puccini mitred down to one single album? Might as well be a "greatest hits" album! Tull's M.U., ELP's Works, The Beatles' red and/or blue compilation albums, Floyd's Echoes, or a band's live album! 

No, sir, this is not a parameter worthy of true music lovers.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 31 2021 at 08:45
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:
"...  as the RYM scale goes from zero to five, I'd have transformed this as (1+x)*5/6 first in order to transform it to 1-5 as the PA scale goes."

By the way, could that be some of the explanation for why PA averages tend to be quite a lot higher than RYM's?

Partly, I think. Another thing is that RYM raters generally seem more shy to rate very highly. Maybe the reason is that RYM is not genre-specific, so more people rate albums that are not from a genre they generally like. PA is prog albums rated by prog lovers, RYM is prog albums rated by anyone who at least bothers to listen to them (many of which will still be prog-lovers, but anyway).
As a statistician's choice Wink instead of what I had suggested earlier, one could also compute overall mean and standard deviation of album ratings at PA and RYM and transform to (x-m)/s, where m and s are mean and standard deviation of the ratings of the corresponding site.


Edited by Lewian - October 31 2021 at 14:21
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Interesting list. Would have been been interesting to weight number of ratings based on overall number so that it's not as heavily weighted to RYM. For example if DSOTM has the most ratings on either scale it gets a 100 score and all albums get a percentage applied. I'd also not stick to one album per band on this sort of list.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 31 2021 at 09:17
Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

An "all-time top albums list" doesn't quite seem right while limiting bands to one submission per. The Beatles, the Stones, Elton John, U2, Pink Floyd, Radiohead, Coldplay, Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze, Miles Davis, John Coltrane, W.A Mozart, J.S. Bach, and Giacomo Puccini mitred down to one single album? Might as well be a "greatest hits" album! Tull's M.U., ELP's Works, The Beatles' red and/or blue compilation albums, Floyd's Echoes, or a band's live album! 

No, sir, this is not a parameter worthy of true music lovers.


Well, that's a point of view to have, and a matter of choice. I have weighted a lot to include as many artists as possible, instead of the usually that the most known bands get almost all the attention.
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