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Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

If it is of interest to the OP, an extensive discussion already exists regarding the wonderful ladies of prog.
Oh, thank you for that! But it doesn't have to be prog. But I'll check out that thread! :) Renaissance and Mostly Autumn are cool, but they don't seem to have the hard/heavy sound that I'm looking for. I'm more into hard-rock and metal. :)
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Originally posted by cold103 cold103 wrote:

As far as I know, female-fronted metal began in 1995 when The Gathering released their album "Mandylion".
Taking only metal into consideration you've got the already mentioned Doro/Warlock, but there's also a few 1980's thrash metal bands such as:

Acid. An overlooked Belgian, pioneering thrash/speed metal-band. This song/album is from 1983, released six months prior to Kill 'Em All. Kate De Lombaert deserves legendary status:




Znöwhite - debuted on EP in 1984, this is from their only full-length 1988:


Détente, 1986


Holy Moses debuted in 1986 (but this track is from 1987)


The Great Kat, EP-release in 1986, this track is from her debutalbum in 1987:



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Perhaps Janis but most likley Ann and Nancy
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Originally posted by cold103 cold103 wrote:

As far as I know, female-fronted metal began in 1995 when The Gathering released their album "Mandylion".

all the bands I mentioned (others as well) were from the 70s and 80s. 

I can go even further back in time with Janis Joplin, Jefferson Airplane (Grace Slick)

I'm happy you listen to The Gathering, but there were many other female artists before Anneke. 
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by cold103 cold103 wrote:

As far as I know, female-fronted metal began in 1995 when The Gathering released their album "Mandylion".
Taking only metal into consideration you've got the already mentioned Doro/Warlock, but there's also a few 1980's thrash metal bands such as:

Acid. An overlooked Belgian, pioneering thrash/speed metal-band. This is from 1983. Six months prior to Kill 'Em All. Kate De Lombaert deserves legendary status:

Znöwhite - debuted in on EP in 1984, this is from their only full-length 1988:

Détente, 1986

Holy Moses debuted in 1986 (but this track is from 1987)


The Great Kat, EP-release in 1986, this track is from her debutalbum in 1987:


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Originally posted by cold103 cold103 wrote:

Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

If it is of interest to the OP, an extensive discussion already exists regarding the wonderful ladies of prog.
Oh, thank you for that! But it doesn't have to be prog. But I'll check out that thread! :) Renaissance and Mostly Autumn are cool, but they don't seem to have the hard/heavy sound that I'm looking for. I'm more into hard-rock and metal. :)


For a female fronted band with a heavier prog sound then definitely check out Babe Ruth as I mentioned earlier in the thread.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by cold103 cold103 wrote:

As far as I know, female-fronted metal began in 1995 when The Gathering released their album "Mandylion".

all the bands I mentioned (others as well) were from the 70s and 80s. 

I can go even further back in time with Janis Joplin, Jefferson Airplane (Grace Slick)

I'm happy you listen to The Gathering, but there were many other female artists before Anneke. 


Grace and Janis were certainly the pioneering ladies of hard rock singing - I'm struggling to think of anyone before them to be honest, and we are now as far back as the mid 1960's.
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Carol Grimes' Delivery deserves a mention too, although they're more of a Blues Rock band than Hard Rock. Thumbs Up

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

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"Pioneers of female-fronted hard-rock" definitely goes to Fanny.  No question.  I saw these girls a couple of times back in 1971 and they were awesome live.

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Special mention to lead singer Jinx Dawson and her band Coven from the late 60s/early 70s.

From Wikipedia (note the name of the bass player and the song):
Quote Coven was composed of vocalist Esther "Jinx" Dawson, bassist Greg "Oz" Osborne, guitarist Chris Neilsen, keyboardist Rick Durrett (later replaced by John Hobbs), and drummer Steve Ross. They are recognized by metal fans and metal historians as being the band that introduced the "Sign of the horns" to rock, metal and pop culture (as seen on their 1969 debut album release Witchcraft Destroys Minds & Reaps Souls, which has an opening track called "Black Sabbath").






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Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

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this is the band that came to mind for me as well.
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Jucifer (from Athens GA) is one I don’t think has been mentioned yet. Started in the 90s. Metal duo with Amber Valentine on guitar & vocals and her husband on drums. Quite rockin’ and eclectic. They did a double concept album about the French Revolution (L' Autrichienne) that’s all over the place.

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^^^ It's a very bizarre and bewitching coincidence that Coven and Black Sabbath both had members named Oz/Ozzy Osbourne, as well as "Black Sabbath" being the first track on both of their debut albums. Spooky! Clown



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Heavy/speed metal band Messiah Force, with great female vocals, 1987


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Inga Rumpf (Atlantis, Frumpy)
Atlantis, 1972


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Also, some more old school heavy metal from Bitch and their debut EP Damnation Alley from 1982 (Betsy end her band album-debuted with Be my Slave in '83):



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Oh wow. I remember Bitch. My old college roommate (80s) had a cassette with their cover of Elton John's "The Bitch Is Back". Had not heard or thought of them since.
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Lee Aaron, 1984

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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^^^ It's a very bizarre and bewitching coincidence that Coven and Black Sabbath both had members named Oz/Ozzy Osbourne, as well as "Black Sabbath" being the first track on both of their debut albums. Spooky! Clown




It was news to Tony Iommi in 1986.

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