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Cristi
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Atravan (prog-rock from Iran)
Lovebites (all female Japanese heavy/power metal band) Casiopea (Japanese fusion) Mono (post-rock from Japan and one of the best bands of the genre) Skyharbor (Multi-national - India/UK, progressive metal) |
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Psychedelic Paul
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Osiris from Bahrain. They've released five albums of Neo-Prog, but the only album I'm familiar with is their self-titled debut album from 1982.
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I'm glad someone put Mono up here. Excellent post-rock band. I was going to add them to mine, but I didn't want to put two post-rock bands up against each other on my own submissions.
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Hi,
WOW .... I have to do some serious listening now! That's a huge listing on 2 plus pages!
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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Mila-13
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And here are my suggestions: Anandi
Bhattacharya, In Between Us (India) Some call her, the voice of modern India. Her father, Debashish is a slide guitar
maestro and is the leader of her band Kikuo ft. Hanatan, The Girl That Sells Misfortune (Japan) Kikuo is a Japanese composer, writing predominantly music for video games. He frequently uses vocaloids. This is also a composition that he originally wrote for a video game but here it is sung by a real singer, Hanatan. Isfar Sarabski & Band, Novruz (Azerbaijan)
A highly talented Azerbaijani pianist and composer of the new generation whose concert I have attended here, in Switzerland a few years ago. Edited by Mila-13 - August 30 2021 at 14:11 |
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I'm glad you joined the party, after all! Still waters run deep, as always. Edited by Mila-13 - August 30 2021 at 14:24 |
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I didn't want to contribute until I'd finished listening to the previous interactive poll playlist, but I'm excited about this one! I know PA additions are allowed but I'll exclude them from my own nominations since they would be exclusively Japanese otherwise and I do want to have a little variety, case in point: Quite unsettling and yet quite heavenly too in its own way (song title in the Latin script is "Taishō A") Three very different pieces; I'm legitimately at a loss which one to submit.
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Snicolette
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Welcome to conducting one of these polls, Mila! Here are my first thoughts on the first half of Page One, usually I split the first page, as it tends to be most active.
Mila: “Asia
Destination World Introduction to Asia,” just for info. Great idea, since not everyone thinks of some
countries being in, or partly in, Asia, I would think. “Sounds and Colours of Asia” Another info piece. So many wonderful, diverse instruments, sounds
and styles.
Lorenzo: Nice idea to use 3 by the same artist, actually. Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan “Mustt Mustt” I actually know this piece, but not from this source. Second husband played Middle Eastern and other related musics and their band did a version of this. This one has some electric bass and drumbeats at the beginning with some repeated electric (guitar?) quietly plinking along underneath it all. There is village-style call and response within the piece, as well as some sort of reedy sounding keyboard (accordion or the like?). Already I know this poll will be terribly difficult for me! Next up “Intoxicated,” by same. Here, the piece begins with shimmery electric notes, very subdued, then some electronic whangs and shuffling, which begin to take shape rhythmically as it builds. The vocalist enters quietly and quaveringly. There are some accordianesque or organ, I think, notes, that are added in under the vocalist, who begins a swifter bit of almost scatting (although they may be words, as I don’t know the language, despite being exposed to a lot). And thirdly, “Crest” beginning with plaintive electric guitar notes and a very melancholy vocal melody. The instrumental parts actually remind me of some of Alan Stivell’s music, very unrelated, yet also shares some qualities. It does become more pointed about halfway in, with the vocals becoming more strident and the band becoming more electric oriented and jazzy in feel, with a more western structure. It evolves into a washy fadeout. JD: Kodo “Stomp” Thundersounds at the start, then two Taiko (I believe this is Taiko) drummers perform a very stylish short piece, makes me think that you’re starting your selections off with a drumroll. Harry Partch “Delision of the Fury: Act I: Sanctus: An Entra’cte” Harry Partch famous for building his own instruments and such, a very creative individual. This begins as lots of percussive bell sounds and some whangs for emphasis. Hypnotic piece that rises and falls in intensity, there is an almost hurdy-gurdy-like sound that enters at just under 2 minutes and some deep resonant bells follow. Some sort of strummed instrument prevails with some blaring type sounds over halfway in. All falls back for some solo percussion, then an organ-type sound enters with the percussive elements continuing. Large bells and buzzing sounds with a few crashes bring it all to the end. Electronico Fantasticos “Live At Iron Island Festival” As advertized, live performance with a bouncy electronic beat, which is joined in on with various insruments, some of which look handmade here, as well, including incorporating electric fans. Female playing some sort of keyboard adds some vocalizing after a bit. Not sure what she’s singing, but it sounds like kind of a complaint. Ends in some whangling and an appreciative audience. Very imaginative. Anders: Dewa Alit & Gamelan Salukat “Dripping Water/Yeh Jgetel” As stated earlier, I love Gamelan music, but darned if I could name any of it. I’ve heard a fair amount in live settings, this looks to be a favourable listen from me. Begins with some percussive beats on I think, some sort of pottery instruments, that sound almost electronic, as do the next additions that are deeper-sounding pan-like instruments. The pace picks up and then slows again, it truly does sound like stylized dripping water. There are added in some even deeper elements on other pan-like instruments and then there is also an instrument similar to marimba added in, with some occasional bell-like tones, not sure what made those. Everyone ends in unison. Very meditative. George: Wahh World Fusion Band “Desire On Fire” Sitar started this one out slowly, with it’s very signature sound. A male singer, with some echo effects on his voice sings out. The opening is very sensuous, as the title would indicate. Bass and drums are added as the pace picks up and they go more into a jazz sort of mode, and sounds like guitar there as well. Tablas switch the mode again and very decidedly electric guitar flaming lead (excellent!). It moves into another more sensual, ecstatic mode with sitar lead and vocal scatting. The scatting becomes more quick and almost rap-like, except I think what he is doing is the drumbeats, vocally. Fadeout to end. Jonas Hellborg/Shawn Lane/ V. Umashankar/V. Selvaganesh/ V. Umamahesh “Anchor” Here we start again with sort of a classical Indian sound by the vocal and tablas, but the bass and guitar quickly dispel that thought that you are about ready to go on a typical raga. This is a nice foray (with hecka great bass!) into fusing jazz with Indian music, has a live feel to it. There is some sort of effect or? Creating a violin-ish drone sound about a third in. Pretty imaginative lead on effected guitar, or is it a synth (leaning more towards synth as it continues)? Solo vocal scatting for a bit, sounds like 2 different vocalists, call and response style, for a good stretch, then in unison. Full band kicks in again with lead vocal over. Kyaw Kyaw Naing/Bang on the Can All-Stars “Sein Chit Tee A Mhat Ta Ya” This begins rapidly with flutes and percussion, bass as well, it sounds like. Goes into a fast spirally section, then slows and builds, with fits and starts, moving on to another quick paced section. Then some very oriental sounding back and forth with flutes, percussion and keyboards. Pretty bell-like portion is up next, this is like a quick journey through oriental sounds, in a way. Kyaw Kyaw Naing demo on pat waing: Fun to watch him playing these, thanks! Love that mizmar sounding high (reeded?) instrument, too. Yoshida Brothers “Rising” This promises to be very electric, yet also with traditional instruments, from the opening. Becomes very rock ‘n’ roll-ish, yet also cinematic music. Dfficult and precise pacing, quick electric lead punctuates the piece about halfway in, then back to the main western sort of theme. Ends with a super-tight finish. Greg: Geinoh Yamashirogumi “Osorezan” Well THAT woke me up! Didn’t even have the speakers turned up yet, lol. Scream then a drumroll, then some more drumming. Some very subdued keyboard notes, then some shivery gong sounds, an eerie wailing and a woman’s voice, maybe a ghost story? Some shaker type sounds and something indefinable, pretty spooky stuff going on, though. Washy sounds and shimmers, some electric guitar and odd voicings, this time male, fading in and out. Screechiness and wails, more to the fore. Some wah-wah type guitar sounds. More distressing sorts of noises, shrieks and clashy sounds. Single drum beat and some snare. Eerie female chorus, with now some sorts of horns or maybe organ? Becomes much more rhythmic with an angular electric guitar lead. Vocal choir enters the stage, with a few more wails and screaming. Orc-ish sorts of sounds, is this a descent into Hell? Perhaps. Scream again, then subtle sounds start and the woman voice is back, very quietly singing with some ambient sounds around her. Interesting piece, I liked some of the really spooky parts a lot, definitely a journey. Haco + Sakamoto Hiromichi “Ash In The Rainbow” This one starts with some bowed saw-like (or theremin? Or whatever Japanese instrument makes that sound, don’t know the name) sound and some heavenly violin or cello with an equally heavenly female vocal. Mournful, melancholy sounding piece. I like it! Just gorgeous. She is joined with other voices and goes into a speaking part. An almost lullaby feel to this one. Ends a little abruptly. Yoshihiro Kanno “Egg's Dream” Choral and some shimmery strings, cascading all around each other. Very angelic in feel, yet also a bit discordant, so perhaps evoking outer space. Bits of deep bells here and there, then deep church type bells. Abrupt halt, then the angels return for just a moment (well several, actually). Note: This will be a very tough round, for me, so far, everyone has something that really caught my ear. |
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Logan
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What wonderful write-ups, Nickie! Reading your write-ups is one of the biggest highlights of the series for me. A sort of ghost story is the impression I get too from Osorezan. I think it draws heavily on Japanese folklore traditions, Japanese theater traditions, and it definitely makes me think of Oni, which are demon, troll, ogre like figures in Japanese mythology (oni are orkish). I probably should have warned about the screaming, especially at the beginning. As Barbarella says, "A good many dramatic situations begin with screaming." Geinoh Yamashirogumi, which acts as a large collective, also did a live version of it for any who might be interested at some time perhaps, not now I suggest (as if over twenty minutes was not already enough for now): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMq0N3rADpU While on the topic of GY, because I wanted to post this as well but decided to stick with the three (one being very long as is) from GY's Yamato Gensho: As for "Ash in the Rainbow", I love the whole album of the same name, and I love other things Haco. It is indeed a musical saw being played by the cellist Sakamoto Hiromichi (this time sticking with the traditional Japanese of using the surname first). As for "Egg's Dream", that's me turning to my love of soundtracks again. It's a beautiful modern classical sort of soundtrack. I felt that particular one would work well in its way with my other selections. I did want to go all Japanese because Japan means so very much to me. I have had so many happy times. Kyoto in particular is very special to me. Edited by Logan - August 31 2021 at 12:52 |
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Mila-13
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General Info & Question Hello everybody, So far we have 14 participants and in total there are 25 slots on the poll. I was wondering whether it would make sense to give you guys the chance to nominate more than just one song each? 2 participants have submitted just one song. I would nominate also only one in order to leave more space. Maybe, Lorenzo would also agree on nominating only one song considering that he suggested several songs by the same artist. This would allow the following option: 10 x 2 songs + 4 x 1 song = 24 songs / > Space left for one more song. In case more people would show interest in participating, we could decide by lot who gets the ticket to nominate two songs. :P What's your opinion? ___________________ Btw. On page one of the thread you have all the info about the current poll. I already added a link to a playlist with all the songs that have been suggested so far. The playlist with the nominated songs will be published when the time has come. Edited by Mila-13 - August 31 2021 at 13:17 |
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Thank you, Greg. I do enjoy listening through them all and love when people do have the time to comment, even one-liner's are good, although I tend to be on the wordy side. I am pretty familiar with bowed saw music, Tom Scribner, in the little town of Santa Cruz, has a statue in his honour in a cenral downtown location (near the town clock) there. He was a logger and learned while working in the logging camps, before he retired. I was lucky to see him play and hear his stories about those past times. His story, for any interested: https://history.santacruzpl.org/omeka/items/show/82546#?c=0&m=0&s=0&cv=0 It is particularly meaningful when you have personal experience of an area and music so often is a link we can bring with us, wherever we go, as you mention in your memories of Japan. I thoroughly enjoyed all three of these, although the screams were a bit unnerving! I'm a jumpy person, lol.
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one song is good enough, no need to change, if it ain't broken, don't fix it.
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Personally I prefer one song for each participant. I usually only listen to the final nominations, because it takes a lot of time to get through all the tracks posted in the thread. Also, voting for two songs (which we actually did in a few polls) means that I often like one song much better than the other, and that makes voting difficult.
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Mila: I do think that would be too onerous on many, and it would be kind of sad to me for people to be left out of the two choices.
A possibility at some time to maybe consider, and others might loathe the idea, would be for the added extra options to fill out the list to act as "bonus" options. Those who wished to nominate an extra as a bonus could do so (depending on space), and the votes would be for three of the regular nominations plus one for a bonus song option for those who would wish to do so. I wouldn't want it to be first come first serve. Could write-in vote on which bonus ones to include, but then that would like having another round and that would be rather ridiculous. Neat idea, Mila, and that or something like it I do find to be an interesting prospect, depending on how the details were worked out and planning took place, even if I think most would not like it. I think progressive music folks are often fairly conservative when it comes to trying new things. ;) 14 options is not uncommon for these polls, and we may get some more people joining in still. Edited by Logan - August 31 2021 at 15:26 |
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The idea was not to make one package of two song per participant. Quite the opposite, people could vote for each song separately. I found it difficult to vote in the heaven/hell poll that we have had recently. In that regard, I absolutely agree with you. - You mentioned that you would listen mainly to the nominated songs. People have posted some really great stuff this edition. It would be a pity to miss them. Edited by Mila-13 - August 31 2021 at 15:35 |
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"I think progressive music folks are often fairly conservative when it comes to trying new things." I think, I will put this sentence in a frame! I'm too spontanous, obviously. A vivacious southerner. lol We could discuss this in the team section at some point, or maybe not. Edited by Mila-13 - August 31 2021 at 15:56 |
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I really really wanted to restrict myself to three but I have no discipline... and I eventually decided that this kind of music that I love to pieces and at which the Japanese are very good needs to be represented. Toshimaru Nakamura - Live at Japanorama (no song title indicated and there may well not be one) |
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I really appreciate the comments, and hope to try my hand at doing those again. Glad you liked all three. That Osorezan sounds like a rather different mix than in the version in my collection (a remastering, I mean). It's like they decided to up the horror quotient in the audio mixing to make it more extreme. For instance, it's like they took those screams to eleven (it's a little more subdued in my release version, but still ear piercing (and might give one a jump scare). My time living in Japan, and interest in the culture, definitely makes such expression resonate more with me. I'd love to be back there for more than a short vacation Your story on Tom Scribner is very interesting and I checked out the link. Thanks for sharing.
Progressive Archives: Your Ultimately Conservative Resource. ;) If you're being spontaneous, then I like your spontaneity. I have to watch myself from being too spontaneous often because spontaneous plus me too often equals trouble as some of my failed home projects would attest too: "Uh oh, he's got the power tools out again." |
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@ Greg
Well you know, I am new here. I have participated only three times so far. Your poll gave me the impression that this format was flexible which encouraged me to suggest a modification of the rules. Of course your topic did require two songs per participant. That's where the main difference is. Edited by Mila-13 - August 31 2021 at 22:20 |
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