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Topic: Interactive Poll: Sounds of AsiaPosted By: Mila-13
Subject: Interactive Poll: Sounds of Asia
Date Posted: August 28 2021 at 12:08
Replies: Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: August 28 2021 at 13:32
Basically I know well only two asian artists:
- Ravi Shankar (and his daughter)
- Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan (thank to the Real World by Peter Gabriel)
I go with Ali Kahn. A accept advices.
First suggestion Musst Musst:
Second suggestion: Intoxicated
Third suggestion: Crest
Enjoy!
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: August 28 2021 at 13:45
Kodo - Stomp
Harry Partch - Delusion of the Fury: Act I: Sanctus: An Entra'cte
Electronicos Fantasricos ! - Live At Iron Island Festival
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: August 28 2021 at 13:49
Nice. I predict a very diverse poll since Asia is a big continent with many different cultures.
My choice will be Balinese gamelan music - a style which, among other things, influenced a composer like Claude Debussy.
I hope you are right, I think that the rules are quite reasonable? The music suggestions made so far are very promising. Thank you, too for this great choice!
Now that is interesting, how come Debussy got inspired by Balinese gamelan music? I know, the French do have colonies in Polynesia but that's not close at all.
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: August 28 2021 at 14:44
JD wrote:
Kodo - Stomp
Harry Partch - Delusion of the Fury: Act I: Sanctus: An Entra'cte
Electronicos Fantasricos ! - Live At Iron Island Festival
Thank you for the music JD, much appreciated!
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: August 28 2021 at 14:45
I will have fun with this one!
Starting with Indian music, first up (and my nomination for now) is a band based in Tampa, Florida. I used to live down there, and one night, I was driving around, running errands, and listening to a local community radio station and the DJ (Ray Villadonga) was playing an assortment of jazz rock fusion, psychedelic, space, and prog rock. One of the tracks was from a band that he cofounded and played bass for, Wahh World Fusion Band. The band primarily consists of a tabla player/vocalist, bassist, guitarist, e-sitarist, and drummer. I couldn’t find any individual tracks from their first album on Youtube, so this one is from their second album, called “Brother Ray,” in honor of Ray. Ray passed away from cancer in 2017 prior to the release of this album and he only played on a few of the tracks. I don’t think he is on this one. The end of the track has some konnakol.
Wahh World Fusion Band – Desire on Fire
If interested, their first album “Liberation” is available as a free MP3 download from their https://www.wahhmusic.com/" rel="nofollow - website . Click on the “get album” link on the page.
Second up, the primary listed artist is one I have mentioned before in these polls, fusion bass player Jonas Hellborg. He is on PA and has collaborated with many artists. My previous nomination from him was a collaboration with guitarist Buckethead and drummer Michael Shrieve. This one has him collaborating with guitarist Shawn Lane and Indian musicians (and brothers) V. Umashankar (ghatam and konnakol), V. Selvaganesh (kanjira and konnakol), and V. Umamahesh (vocals).
Jonas Hellborg / Shawn Lane / V. Umashankar / V. Selvaganesh / V. Umamahesh – Anchor
ghatam:
kanjira:
Next, we go to Burma with Kyaw Kyaw Naing and the contemporary classical ensemble Bang on the Can All Stars. Naing plays the Burmese percussion instrument pat waing, which are 21 drums arranged in a horseshoe shape. He collaborated with Bang on the Can All-Stars for the album this track is from, “Bang on a Can meets Kyaw Kyaw Naing.”
Kyaw Kyaw Naing / Bang on the Can All-Stars – Sein Chit Tee A Mhat Ta Ya
Video showing Kyaw Kyaw Naing playing the pat waing.
Link to biography: https://cantaloupemusic.com/artists/kyaw-kyaw-naing" rel="nofollow - https://cantaloupemusic.com/artists/kyaw-kyaw-naing
And finally, Japan. I have nominated previously, a couple of different artists with the shamisen, https://youtu.be/OJ7XjehUxkA" rel="nofollow - Waggakki Band – Senbonzakura and https://youtu.be/g46tXWxtsfY" rel="nofollow - Tokyo Groove Jyoshi – What Is Hip . So, one more possibility with the Yoshida Brothers.
Yoshida Brothers – Rising
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 28 2021 at 14:47
I'm doing all Japan
A long one that I have mentioned before various times at PA that some of you might know. Still, for now this is my nomination:
Geinoh Yamashirogumi - Osorezan (芸能山城組 - 恐山)
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Also, wish to mention this title track Ash in the Rainbow song. I did Zero Hills from the same album before.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 28 2021 at 15:17
Lorenzo already mentioned, at least indirectly, Anoushka Shankar. This is the title track and hit of her glorious Land of Gold album; actually pretty much every track from that album would be a worthwhile nomination. I went for the most commercial and maybe most western influenced track here... anyway, I love it.
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 28 2021 at 15:20
And here a stunning live video by the Japanese Cornelius:
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: August 28 2021 at 15:20
Here are some Turkish delights for you all.
These songs are live performances from some Turkish TV programmes.
My nomination is from one of our national treasures: the multi-instrumentalist and vocal master Fatih Erkoç. The song has many colours in it (it is a cover of an arabesk song); and definitely don't miss the ending part!
Fatih Erkoc - Emmoglu
Another song. This is our vocal virtuoso Haktan Canevi. He can sing like playing the violin. A rare talent!
Haktan - Beddua
And finally... This is from a singing competition programme. The guy here had not been known before, but now millions know him thanks to his splendid performances in the TV show!
Erkan Gümüşsuyu - Yıllar
Hope you'll enjoy my picks!
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: August 28 2021 at 15:34
Mila-13 wrote:
The Anders wrote:
Nice. I predict a very diverse poll since Asia is a big continent with many different cultures.
My choice will be Balinese gamelan music - a style which, among other things, influenced a composer like Claude Debussy.
I hope you are right, I think that the rules are quite reasonable? The music suggestions made so far are very promising. Thanky you, too for this great choice!
Now that is interesting, how come Debussy got inspired by Balinese gamelan music? I know, the French do have colonies in Polynesia but that's not close at all.
Debussy listened to Gamelan music that was being performed in Europe. Indonesian musicians travel too.
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 28 2021 at 15:38
Talvin Singh was born in London, but is apparently of Indian descent, and made his name by fusioning classical Indian music with Drum and Bass electronic music.
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: August 28 2021 at 16:44
Easy Money wrote:
Mila-13 wrote:
The Anders wrote:
Nice. I predict a very diverse poll since Asia is a big continent with many different cultures.
My choice will be Balinese gamelan music - a style which, among other things, influenced a composer like Claude Debussy.
I hope you are right, I think that the rules are quite reasonable? The music suggestions made so far are very promising. Thanky you, too for this great choice!
Now that is interesting, how come Debussy got inspired by Balinese gamelan music? I know, the French do have colonies in Polynesia but that's not close at all.
Debussy listened to Gamelan music that was being performed in Europe. Indonesian musicians travel too.
Sure, however that must have happened at least one century ago, rather beyond!
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: August 28 2021 at 16:47
^ Yes, I believe it was at a world's fair where Debussy encountered Indonesian music for the first time. This event is well documented in music history books.
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: August 28 2021 at 18:11
I'll start off with Kahimi Karie from Japan who uses the shibuya-kei style that was popular in the nineties.
Kahimi Karie - "Lolitapop Dollhouse"
Next is an amazing band from Korea that mixes a lot of amazing traditional Asian styles and instruments to make a very unique sounding post rock. This song is from an album that I listed in my top 20 releases for 2019. Be prepared to be blown away with this one....and please listen to all of it for maximum effect. This will most likely be my nomination to be voted on.
Jambinai - "Prelude/Onda"
Finally, here is an Asian-American band that does a nice chill out indie-rock that has some really nice guitar.
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: August 28 2021 at 19:10
Great suggestion with Jambinai, Mike!
That album was also one of my favorites from 2019. Someome had posted in the forums their recent Tiny Desk performance about a month ago, which included ONDA. Opened with Time of Extinction from an earlier album. I recommend watching https://youtu.be/wEk0YlYEJAE" rel="nofollow - this as well.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: August 28 2021 at 19:33
Back again, I realized my Russian act was from the European side of Russia and also found a representation of the Konghou harp without the annoying beep. :) Yes, glad you brought Jambanai in, Mike!
So here goes, first up is Marla Leigh, with "The Rhythms of Tof Miriam." Tof Miriam is an Israeli frame drum, here with oud and ney, Marla is considered a master of the instrument.
Next is The Chieftains, with "Sake in the Jar," featuring Akiko Yano, from Japan.
And lastly, here is the modern Chinese Konghou double-strung harp, with "The Cresting Moon," played by Wang Xue (I believe). She does not break a string (a harp string is terribly loud when they break, even a small one will make most people startle), she has a small pick on a string that she picks up and it hits another string on it's way, accidentally).
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: August 29 2021 at 01:59
TCat wrote:
Next is an amazing band from Korea that mixes a lot of amazing traditional Asian styles and instruments to make a very unique sounding post rock. This song is from an album that I listed in my top 20 releases for 2019. Be prepared to be blown away with this one....and please listen to all of it for maximum effect. This will most likely be my nomination to be voted on.
Jambinai - "Prelude/Onda"
Ha, here we go! I was considering these guys myself but then I checked the archives and saw your review. Then I decided to leave them to you, just in case.
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: August 29 2021 at 03:06
Korean music and the traditional instruments are amazing. For some contemporary Korean music with traditional instruments, I recommend the YouTube channel https://youtube.com/c/JourneytoKoreanMusic" rel="nofollow - Journey to Korean Music .
Many bands to recommend, but a few are https://youtu.be/RpG6M6NuRVM" rel="nofollow - Dongyang Gozupa , https://youtu.be/mVd1UPlx0vo" rel="nofollow - Black String , and https://youtu.be/sMvj_F7GtFQ" rel="nofollow - Coreyah . The first two are closer to the post rock of Jambinai and I would say the third band is more prog-folk.
Edit to add that the three bands mentioned are on Bandcamp if you want hear more.
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: August 29 2021 at 04:57
Thank you very much, I'm always greatful for good music sources! There is another Korean music channel on youtube featuring live studio performances. It is in the first place interesting for indie music fans but I also found Jambinai on there. https://www.youtube.com/user/studiolovo" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/user/studiolovo
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: August 29 2021 at 06:18
Staying as close to home as possible, I'm giving you different tracks of one and the same band. I discovered them last year - they were nominated for a Grammy Award! - and I waited for the opportunity to introduce them in one of these interactive polls, so here it is: the Dutch-Turkish band Altin Gün!
They started five years ago and are very much inspired by 60s and 70s Turkish folk music and psychedelic folk/rock putting it in some modern sauce (sometimes veering to electro-pop or even disco...). They're mainly covering Turkish artists and/or reworking traditionals, but have also some own compositions. Maybe Özgür will recognize some tracks and know the originals...
From their first album On, originally written and composed by Neşet Ertaş: Altin Gün - Tatlı Dile Güler Yüze:
And from the same album, with more prominence for the Bağlama (a saz) and also originally by Neşet Ertaş: Altin Gün - Şad Olup Gülmedim:
From their second album Gece, originally by Muzaffer Sarısözen: Altin Gün - Süpürgesi Yoncadan:
From their third album Yol, a traditional: Altin Gün - Yüce Dağ Başında:
And if you like this, check them out on their bandcamp: https://altingunband.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - https://altingunband.bandcamp.com
They just have a new album out!
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The razamataz is a pain in the bum
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: August 29 2021 at 06:51
^ Kees, very interesting stuff. Both sterile and organic, authentic and alienating. I'm impressed. A real trip! I'll check out their further stuff.
Tatlı Dile Güler Yüze is a very well known traditional Turkish folk song. Neşet Ertaş is a real legend. Both as a person and as an artist. Şad Olup Gülmedim of his is in a style called "uzun hava". (It means "long air", literally. It is said for the songs where the singers sing long and continuous tunes.)
Süpürgesi Yoncadan sounds very familiar, but there's a slight possibility that it is very much like to another Turkish folk music song. I know that people who are deep into Turkish folk music see all the songs in the genre as different, or very different from each other, but I'm not one of them. 99%, I already know this tune, though. BTW, I'm horrible in memorising song titles. Some Turks might condemn me and say: "How can you not be sure about hearing of Süpürgesi Yoncadan?"
Yüce Dağ Başında is again a very popular traditional Turkish folk song. It is a very uplifting song. I love it!
Thanks, really.
My selections are more within the framework of the "arabesk müzik", belonging to the Turkish culture, and yours are of the "Türk Halk Müziği". Anyway, goods tunes are good tunes, irregardless of the genres; I believe.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 29 2021 at 07:50
Don't know much on this topic, I know prog, metal and fusion from Japan, but not much else.
One of the best albums I've heard this year comes from Iran (of all places) - Atravan - The Grey Line.
One of my favorite progressive metal bands in recent years - Skyharbour - consists of musicians from India and UK.
I may post a song or I may not
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: August 29 2021 at 08:56
For my first nomination, I'm going to do something different. Instead of nominating a piece of music, I'm going to nominate a scene from a movie that I think conforms to the spirit of this poll. As such, I think the visual is as important as the audio.
Baraka - Balinese Monkey Chant:
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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: August 29 2021 at 09:40
Mila-13 wrote:
TCat wrote:
Next is an amazing band from Korea that mixes a lot of amazing traditional Asian styles and instruments to make a very unique sounding post rock. This song is from an album that I listed in my top 20 releases for 2019. Be prepared to be blown away with this one....and please listen to all of it for maximum effect. This will most likely be my nomination to be voted on.
Jambinai - "Prelude/Onda"
Ha, here we go! I was considering these guys myself but then I checked the archives and saw your review. Then I decided to leave them to you, just in case.
Thank you for that consideration! I'm glad to see they get more recognition here than I originally thought. They are a band that deserves it.
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: August 29 2021 at 11:32
I knew a couple of songs by Altin Gün. Great band.
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: August 29 2021 at 11:50
^ Glad you like them too!
@Özgür: Thanks for your comments; I thought you might be able to give us some more info on the originals and their artists - thanks for that. I quite like the funky, electronic reinterpretation by Altin Gün while keeping that clear folk tradition of the songs, quite an achievement I think. Glad to make you discover them (and I was actually quite confident that you would like them ).
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The razamataz is a pain in the bum
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: August 29 2021 at 11:55
Cristi wrote:
Don't know much on this topic, I know prog, metal and fusion from Japan, but not much else.
One of the best albums I've heard this year comes from Iran (of all places) - Atravan - The Grey Line.
One of my favorite progressive metal bands in recent years - Skyharbour - consists of musicians from India and UK.
I may post a song or I may not
Go for it, Cristi! As Mila said: PA is allowed (if they're not too well known). It will give even more diversity to this poll!
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The razamataz is a pain in the bum
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: August 29 2021 at 12:22
The Anders wrote:
I knew a couple of songs by Altin Gün. Great band.
Oh you also mentioned that you know Dönence by Barış Manço.
I'm a fan of your (Denmark's) Ludvig Holberg. Also, I'm a massive fan of the Danish musician Finn Zierler. Do these count?
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: August 29 2021 at 12:41
suitkees wrote:
@Özgür: Thanks for your comments; I thought you might be able to give us some more info on the originals and their artists - thanks for that. I quite like the funky, electronic reinterpretation by Altin Gün while keeping that clear folk tradition of the songs, quite an achievement I think. Glad to make you discover them (and I was actually quite confident that you would like them ).
Thank you, man. BTW, our legend Neşet Ertaş passed away. I'm mentioning this lest there's no popular English resource mentioning it. He'll live forever for us Turks, though.
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: August 29 2021 at 13:54
Shadowyzard wrote:
The Anders wrote:
I knew a couple of songs by Altin Gün. Great band.
Oh you also mentioned that you know Dönence by Barış Manço.
I'm a fan of your (Denmark's) Ludvig Holberg. Also, I'm a massive fan of the Danish musician Finn Zierler. Do these count?
Finn Ziegler, but close
Baba Zula is another Turkish band I really dig. Not to mention an artist like Gaye Su Akyol.
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: August 29 2021 at 14:00
The Anders wrote:
Shadowyzard wrote:
The Anders wrote:
I knew a couple of songs by Altin Gün. Great band.
Oh you also mentioned that you know Dönence by Barış Manço.
I'm a fan of your (Denmark's) Ludvig Holberg. Also, I'm a massive fan of the Danish musician Finn Zierler. Do these count?
Finn Ziegler, but close
Baba Zula is another Turkish band I really dig. Not to mention an artist like Gaye Su Akyol.
Nice! But, I really meant Finn Zierler, not Ziegler. Yet, I know of him too!
Here's Finn Zierler:
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: August 29 2021 at 14:12
^ Never heard of him before...
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: August 29 2021 at 14:18
^ His previous band Beyond Twilight are in the archives here. Though, you wouldn't like them, I guess. One of the moderately known prog metal bands. See my *only* review with this account (from my reviewer page), for their final album, if you're interested.
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: August 29 2021 at 16:24
Cristi wrote:
Don't know much on this topic, I know prog, metal and fusion from Japan, but not much else.
One of the best albums I've heard this year comes from Iran (of all places) - Atravan - The Grey Line.
One of my favorite progressive metal bands in recent years - Skyharbour - consists of musicians from India and UK.
I may post a song or I may not
C'mon, don't be shy! The archives are open in order to encourage people to participate. I have f.e. never heard of your suggested bands. It's exactly the best time to introduce them and also to get to know some new stuff by the way!
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 29 2021 at 16:28
Mila-13 wrote:
Cristi wrote:
Don't know much on this topic, I know prog, metal and fusion from Japan, but not much else.
One of the best albums I've heard this year comes from Iran (of all places) - Atravan - The Grey Line.
One of my favorite progressive metal bands in recent years - Skyharbour - consists of musicians from India and UK.
I may post a song or I may not
C'mon, don't be shy! The archives are open in order to encourage people to participate. I have f.e. never heard of your suggested bands. It's exactly the best time to introduce them and also to get to know some new stuff by the way!
I'm not shy, just admitting my lack of knowledge on the topic.
I will post some songs tomorrow.
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: August 29 2021 at 16:45
@ Cristi
I'm no expert either tbh. That was actually my primary motivation. This is a good opportunity to do something about it, isn't it? Welcome on board, I'm looking forward to your music choices!
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 30 2021 at 02:54
Atravan (prog-rock from Iran)
Lovebites (all female Japanese heavy/power metal band)
Casiopea (Japanese fusion)
Mono (post-rock from Japan and one of the best bands of the genre)
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 30 2021 at 04:50
Osiris from Bahrain. They've released five albums of Neo-Prog, but the only album I'm familiar with is their self-titled debut album from 1982.
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: August 30 2021 at 10:55
Cristi wrote:
Mono (post-rock from Japan and one of the best bands of the genre)
Video removed for space
I'm glad someone put Mono up here. Excellent post-rock band. I was going to add them to mine, but I didn't want to put two post-rock bands up against each other on my own submissions.
I'm glad you joined the party, after all! Still waters run deep, as always.
Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: August 31 2021 at 00:34
I didn't want to contribute until I'd finished listening to the previous interactive poll playlist, but I'm excited about this one! I know PA additions are allowed but I'll exclude them from my own nominations since they would be exclusively Japanese otherwise and I do want to have a little variety, case in point:
Quite unsettling and yet quite heavenly too in its own way
(song title in the Latin script is "Taishō A")
Three very different pieces; I'm legitimately at a loss which one to submit.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: August 31 2021 at 11:57
Welcome to conducting one of these polls, Mila! Here are my first thoughts on the first half of Page One, usually I split the first page, as it tends to be most active.
Mila: “Asia
Destination World Introduction to Asia,” just for info. Great idea, since not everyone thinks of some
countries being in, or partly in, Asia, I would think. “Sounds and Colours of Asia” Another info piece. So many wonderful, diverse instruments, sounds
and styles.
Lorenzo: Nice
idea to use 3 by the same artist, actually.
Nusrat Fateh Ali
Khan “Mustt Mustt” I actually know this
piece, but not from this source. Second
husband played Middle Eastern and other related musics and their band did a version
of this. This one has some electric bass
and drumbeats at the beginning with some repeated electric (guitar?) quietly
plinking along underneath it all. There
is village-style call and response within the piece, as well as some sort of
reedy sounding keyboard (accordion or the like?). Already I know this poll will be terribly
difficult for me! Next up
“Intoxicated,” by same. Here, the piece
begins with shimmery electric notes, very subdued, then some electronic whangs
and shuffling, which begin to take shape rhythmically as it builds. The vocalist enters quietly and quaveringly.
There are some accordianesque or organ, I think, notes, that are added in under
the vocalist, who begins a swifter bit of almost scatting (although they may be
words, as I don’t know the language, despite being exposed to a lot). And thirdly, “Crest” beginning with plaintive electric guitar
notes and a very melancholy vocal melody.
The instrumental parts actually remind me of some of Alan Stivell’s
music, very unrelated, yet also shares some qualities. It does become more pointed about halfway in,
with the vocals becoming more strident and the band becoming more electric
oriented and jazzy in feel, with a more western structure. It evolves into a washy fadeout.
JD: Kodo
“Stomp” Thundersounds at the start, then
two Taiko (I believe this is Taiko) drummers perform a very stylish short
piece, makes me think that you’re starting your selections off with a drumroll. Harry Partch “Delision of the Fury: Act I: Sanctus: An Entra’cte” Harry Partch famous for building his own
instruments and such, a very creative individual. This begins as lots of percussive bell sounds
and some whangs for emphasis. Hypnotic
piece that rises and falls in intensity, there is an almost hurdy-gurdy-like
sound that enters at just under 2 minutes and some deep resonant bells
follow. Some sort of strummed instrument
prevails with some blaring type sounds over halfway in. All falls back for some solo percussion, then
an organ-type sound enters with the percussive elements continuing. Large bells and buzzing sounds with a few
crashes bring it all to the end.
Electronico Fantasticos “Live At Iron Island Festival” As advertized, live performance with a bouncy
electronic beat, which is joined in on with various insruments, some of which
look handmade here, as well, including incorporating electric fans. Female playing some sort of keyboard adds
some vocalizing after a bit. Not sure
what she’s singing, but it sounds like kind of a complaint. Ends in some whangling and an appreciative
audience. Very imaginative.
Anders:Dewa Alit & Gamelan Salukat
“Dripping Water/Yeh Jgetel” As stated
earlier, I love Gamelan music, but darned if I could name any of it. I’ve heard a fair amount in live settings,
this looks to be a favourable listen from me.
Begins with some percussive beats on I think, some sort of pottery
instruments, that sound almost electronic, as do the next additions that are
deeper-sounding pan-like instruments. The
pace picks up and then slows again, it truly does sound like stylized dripping
water. There are added in some even
deeper elements on other pan-like instruments and then there is also an
instrument similar to marimba added in, with some occasional bell-like tones,
not sure what made those. Everyone ends
in unison. Very meditative.
George:Wahh World Fusion Band “Desire
On Fire” Sitar started this one out
slowly, with it’s very signature sound.
A male singer, with some echo effects on his voice sings out. The opening is very sensuous, as the title
would indicate. Bass and drums are added
as the pace picks up and they go more into a jazz sort of mode, and sounds like
guitar there as well. Tablas switch the
mode again and very decidedly electric guitar flaming lead (excellent!).It moves into another more sensual, ecstatic mode with sitar lead and
vocal scatting. The scatting becomes
more quick and almost rap-like, except I think what he is doing is the
drumbeats, vocally.Fadeout
to end. Jonas Hellborg/Shawn Lane/
V. Umashankar/V. Selvaganesh/ V. Umamahesh “Anchor” Here we start again with sort of a classical
Indian sound by the vocal and tablas, but the bass and guitar quickly dispel
that thought that you are about ready to go on a typical raga. This is a nice foray (with hecka great bass!)
into fusing jazz with Indian music, has a live feel to it. There is some sort of effect or? Creating a
violin-ish drone sound about a third in.
Pretty imaginative lead on effected guitar, or is it a synth (leaning
more towards synth as it continues)?
Solo vocal scatting for a bit, sounds like 2 different vocalists, call
and response style, for a good stretch, then in unison. Full band kicks in again with lead vocal
over. Kyaw Kyaw
Naing/Bang on the Can All-Stars “Sein Chit Tee A Mhat Ta Ya” This begins
rapidly with flutes and percussion, bass as well, it sounds like. Goes into a fast spirally section, then slows
and builds, with fits and starts, moving on to another quick paced
section. Then some very oriental
sounding back and forth with flutes, percussion and keyboards. Pretty bell-like portion is up next, this is
like a quick journey through oriental sounds, in a way. Kyaw Kyaw Naing demo on pat waing: Fun to
watch him playing these, thanks! Love that mizmar sounding high (reeded?)
instrument, too. Yoshida Brothers “Rising” This promises to be very electric, yet also
with traditional instruments, from the opening.
Becomes very rock ‘n’ roll-ish, yet also cinematic music. Dfficult and precise pacing, quick electric
lead punctuates the piece about halfway in, then back to the main western sort
of theme.Ends with a super-tight finish.
Greg: Geinoh Yamashirogumi “Osorezan” Well
THAT woke me up! Didn’t even have the
speakers turned up yet, lol. Scream then
a drumroll, then some more drumming. Some
very subdued keyboard notes, then some shivery gong sounds, an eerie wailing
and a woman’s voice, maybe a ghost story?
Some shaker type sounds and something indefinable, pretty spooky stuff
going on, though. Washy sounds and
shimmers, some electric guitar and odd voicings, this time male, fading in and
out. Screechiness and wails, more to the
fore. Some wah-wah type guitar
sounds. More distressing sorts of noises,
shrieks and clashy sounds. Single drum
beat and some snare. Eerie female chorus,
with now some sorts of horns or maybe organ?
Becomes much more rhythmic with an angular electric guitar lead. Vocal
choir enters the stage, with a few more wails and screaming. Orc-ish
sorts of sounds, is this a descent into Hell?
Perhaps. Scream again, then
subtle sounds start and the woman voice is back, very quietly singing with some
ambient sounds around her. Interesting
piece, I liked some of the really spooky parts a lot, definitely a journey. Haco + Sakamoto Hiromichi “Ash In The Rainbow” This one starts with some bowed saw-like (or
theremin? Or whatever Japanese instrument makes that sound, don’t know the name)
sound and some heavenly violin or cello with an equally heavenly female
vocal. Mournful, melancholy sounding
piece. I like it! Just gorgeous.She is joined with other voices
and goes into a speaking part.An almost lullaby feel to this one.Ends a little abruptly.Yoshihiro Kanno “Egg's Dream”
Choral and some shimmery strings, cascading all around each other. Very angelic in feel, yet also a bit discordant,
so perhaps evoking outer space. Bits of
deep bells here and there, then deep church type bells. Abrupt halt, then the
angels returnfor just
a moment (well several, actually).
Note: This will be a very tough round, for me, so far, everyone
has something that really caught my ear.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 31 2021 at 12:49
Snicolette wrote:
Greg: Geinoh Yamashirogumi “Osorezan” Well THAT woke me up! Didn’t even have the speakers turned up yet, lol. Scream then a drumroll, then some more drumming. Some very subdued keyboard notes, then some shivery gong sounds, an eerie wailing and a woman’s voice, maybe a ghost story? Some shaker type sounds and something indefinable, pretty spooky stuff going on, though. Washy sounds and shimmers, some electric guitar and odd voicings, this time male, fading in and out. Screechiness and wails, more to the fore. Some wah-wah type guitar sounds. More distressing sorts of noises, shrieks and clashy sounds. Single drum beat and some snare. Eerie female chorus, with now some sorts of horns or maybe organ? Becomes much more rhythmic with an angular electric guitar lead. Vocal choir enters the stage, with a few more wails and screaming. Orc-ish sorts of sounds, is this a descent into Hell? Perhaps. Scream again, then subtle sounds start and the woman voice is back, very quietly singing with some ambient sounds around her. Interesting piece, I liked some of the really spooky parts a lot, definitely a journey. Haco + Sakamoto Hiromichi “Ash In The Rainbow” This one starts with some bowed saw-like (or theremin? Or whatever Japanese instrument makes that sound, don’t know the name) sound and some heavenly violin or cello with an equally heavenly female vocal. Mournful, melancholy sounding piece. I like it! Just gorgeous. She is joined with other voices and goes into a speaking part. An almost lullaby feel to this one. Ends a little abruptly. Yoshihiro Kanno “Egg's Dream” Choral and some shimmery strings, cascading all around each other. Very angelic in feel, yet also a bit discordant, so perhaps evoking outer space. Bits of deep bells here and there, then deep church type bells. Abrupt halt, then the angels return for just a moment (well several, actually).
What wonderful write-ups, Nickie! Reading your write-ups is one of the biggest highlights of the series for me. A sort of ghost story is the impression I get too from Osorezan. I think it draws heavily on Japanese folklore traditions, Japanese theater traditions, and it definitely makes me think of Oni, which are demon, troll, ogre like figures in Japanese mythology (oni are orkish). I probably should have warned about the screaming, especially at the beginning. As Barbarella says, "A good many dramatic situations begin with screaming."
Geinoh Yamashirogumi, which acts as a large collective, also did a live version of it for any who might be interested at some time perhaps, not now I suggest (as if over twenty minutes was not already enough for now): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMq0N3rADpU" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMq0N3rADpU
While on the topic of GY, because I wanted to post this as well but decided to stick with the three (one being very long as is) from GY's Yamato Gensho:
As for "Ash in the Rainbow", I love the whole album of the same name, and I love other things Haco. It is indeed a musical saw being played by the cellist Sakamoto Hiromichi (this time sticking with the traditional Japanese of using the surname first). As for "Egg's Dream", that's me turning to my love of soundtracks again. It's a beautiful modern classical sort of soundtrack. I felt that particular one would work well in its way with my other selections.
I did want to go all Japanese because Japan means so very much to me. I have had so many happy times. Kyoto in particular is very special to me.
------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: August 31 2021 at 12:59
General Info & Question
Hello everybody,
So far we have 14 participants and in total there are 25 slots on the poll. I was wondering whether it would make sense to give you guys the chance to nominate more than just one song each?
2 participants have submitted just one song. I would nominate also only one in order to leave more space. Maybe, Lorenzo would also agree on nominating only one song considering that he suggested several songs by the same artist. This would allow the following option:
10 x 2 songs + 4 x 1 song = 24 songs / > Space left for one more song.
In case more people would show interest in participating, we could decide by lot who gets the ticket to nominate two songs. :P
What's your opinion?
___________________
Btw. On page one of the thread you have all the info about the current poll. I already added a link to a playlist with all the songs that have been suggested so far. The playlist with the nominated songs will be published when the time has come.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: August 31 2021 at 13:03
Logan wrote:
What wonderful write-ups, Nickie! Reading your write-ups is one of the biggest highlights of the series for me. A sort of ghost story is the impression I get too from Osorezan. I think it draws heavily on Japanese folklore traditions, Japanese theater traditions, and it definitely makes me think of Oni, which are demon, troll, ogre like figures in Japanese mythology (oni are orkish). I probably should have warned about the screaming, especially at the beginning. As Barbarella says, "A good many dramatic situations begin with screaming."
Geinoh Yamashirogumi, which acts as a large collective, also did a live version of it for any who might be interested at some time perhaps, not now I suggest (as if over twenty minutes was not already enough for now): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMq0N3rADpU" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMq0N3rADpU
While on the topic of GY, because I wanted to post this as well but decided to stick with the three (one being very long as is) from GY's Yamato Gensho:
Video removed for space
As for "Ash in the Rainbow", I love the whole album of the same name, and I love other things Haco. It is indeed a musical saw being played by the cellist Sakamoto Hiromichi (this time sticking with the traditional Japanese of using the surname first). As for "Egg's Dream", that's me turning to my love of soundtracks again. It's a beautiful modern classical sort of soundtrack. I felt that particular one would work well in its way with my other selections.
I did want to go all Japanese because Japan means so very much to me. I have had so many happy times. Kyoto in particular is very special to me.
Thank you, Greg. I do enjoy listening through them all and love when people do have the time to comment, even one-liner's are good, although I tend to be on the wordy side. I am pretty familiar with bowed saw music, Tom Scribner, in the little town of Santa Cruz, has a statue in his honour in a cenral downtown location (near the town clock) there. He was a logger and learned while working in the logging camps, before he retired. I was lucky to see him play and hear his stories about those past times. His story, for any interested: https://history.santacruzpl.org/omeka/items/show/82546#?c=0&m=0&s=0&cv=0
It is particularly meaningful when you have personal experience of an area and music so often is a link we can bring with us, wherever we go, as you mention in your memories of Japan. I thoroughly enjoyed all three of these, although the screams were a bit unnerving! I'm a jumpy person, lol.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: August 31 2021 at 13:12
Mila-13 wrote:
General Info & Question
Hello everybody,
So far we have 14 participants and in total there are 25 slots on the poll. I was wondering whether it would make sense to give you guys the chance to nominate more than just one song each?
2 participants have submitted just one song. I would submit also only one in order to leave more space. Maybe, Lorenzo would also agree on nominating only one song considering that he suggested several songs by the same artist. This would allow the following option:
10 x 2 songs + 4 x 1 song = 24 songs / > Space left for one more song.
In case more people would show interest in participating, we could decide by lot who gets the ticket to nominate two songs. :P
What's your opinion?
___________________
I would vote for keeping it one nomination, oftentimes these polls grow a lot as the days go by. Part of the challenge is picking one piece out of several (I rarely do more than 3, only once have I only nominated one). Indeed, for some categories, it's a challenge to narrow my picks to 3, but I've done that except for when I've been the poll host(ess). Not sure what others will think, just my 2 cents.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 31 2021 at 13:19
one song is good enough, no need to change, if it ain't broken, don't fix it.
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: August 31 2021 at 15:02
Personally I prefer one song for each participant. I usually only listen to the final nominations, because it takes a lot of time to get through all the tracks posted in the thread. Also, voting for two songs (which we actually did in a few polls) means that I often like one song much better than the other, and that makes voting difficult.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 31 2021 at 15:17
Mila: I do think that would be too onerous on many, and it would be kind of sad to me for people to be left out of the two choices.
A possibility at some time to maybe consider, and others might loathe the idea, would be for the added extra options to fill out the list to act as "bonus" options. Those who wished to nominate an extra as a bonus could do so (depending on space), and the votes would be for three of the regular nominations plus one for a bonus song option for those who would wish to do so. I wouldn't want it to be first come first serve. Could write-in vote on which bonus ones to include, but then that would like having another round and that would be rather ridiculous.
Neat idea, Mila, and that or something like it I do find to be an interesting prospect, depending on how the details were worked out and planning took place, even if I think most would not like it. I think progressive music folks are often fairly conservative when it comes to trying new things. ;)
14 options is not uncommon for these polls, and we may get some more people joining in still.
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: August 31 2021 at 15:33
The Anders wrote:
Personally I prefer one song for each participant. I usually only listen to the final nominations, because it takes a lot of time to get through all the tracks posted in the thread. Also, voting for two songs (which we actually did in a few polls) means that I often like one song much better than the other, and that makes voting difficult.
The idea was not to make one package of two song per participant. Quite the opposite, people could vote for each song separately. I found it difficult to vote in the heaven/hell poll that we have had recently. In that regard, I absolutely agree with you. - You mentioned that you would listen mainly to the nominated songs. People have posted some really great stuff this edition. It would be a pity to miss them.
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: August 31 2021 at 15:54
Logan wrote:
Mila: I do think that would be too onerous on many, and it would be kind of sad to me for people to be left out of the two choices.
A possibility at some time to maybe consider, and others might loathe the idea, would be for the added extra options to fill out the list to act as "bonus" options. Those who wished to nominate an extra as a bonus could do so (depending on space), and the votes would be for three of the regular nominations plus one for a bonus song option for those who would wish to do so. I wouldn't want it to be first come first serve. Could write-in vote on which bonus ones to include, but then that would like having another round and that would be rather ridiculous.
Neat idea, Mila, and that or something like it I do find to be an interesting prospect, depending on how the details were worked out and planning took place, even if I think most would not like it. I think progressive music folks are often fairly conservative when it comes to trying new things. ;)
14 options is not uncommon for these polls, and we may get some more people joining in still.
"I think progressive music folks are often fairly conservative when it comes to trying new things."
I think, I will put this sentence in a frame!
I'm too spontanous, obviously. A vivacious southerner. lol We could discuss this in the team section at some point, or maybe not.
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 31 2021 at 15:56
I really really wanted to restrict myself to three but I have no discipline...
and I eventually decided that this kind of music that I love to pieces and at which the Japanese are very good needs to be represented.
Toshimaru Nakamura - Live at Japanorama (no song title indicated and there may well not be one)
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 31 2021 at 17:41
Snicolette wrote:
Logan wrote:
What wonderful write-ups, Nickie! Reading your write-ups is one of the biggest highlights of the series for me. A sort of ghost story is the impression I get too from Osorezan. I think it draws heavily on Japanese folklore traditions, Japanese theater traditions, and it definitely makes me think of Oni, which are demon, troll, ogre like figures in Japanese mythology (oni are orkish). I probably should have warned about the screaming, especially at the beginning. As Barbarella says, "A good many dramatic situations begin with screaming."
Geinoh Yamashirogumi, which acts as a large collective, also did a live version of it for any who might be interested at some time perhaps, not now I suggest (as if over twenty minutes was not already enough for now): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMq0N3rADpU" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMq0N3rADpU
While on the topic of GY, because I wanted to post this as well but decided to stick with the three (one being very long as is) from GY's Yamato Gensho:
Video removed for space
As for "Ash in the Rainbow", I love the whole album of the same name, and I love other things Haco. It is indeed a musical saw being played by the cellist Sakamoto Hiromichi (this time sticking with the traditional Japanese of using the surname first). As for "Egg's Dream", that's me turning to my love of soundtracks again. It's a beautiful modern classical sort of soundtrack. I felt that particular one would work well in its way with my other selections.
I did want to go all Japanese because Japan means so very much to me. I have had so many happy times. Kyoto in particular is very special to me.
Thank you, Greg. I do enjoy listening through them all and love when people do have the time to comment, even one-liner's are good, although I tend to be on the wordy side. I am pretty familiar with bowed saw music, Tom Scribner, in the little town of Santa Cruz, has a statue in his honour in a central downtown location (near the town clock) there. He was a logger and learned while working in the logging camps, before he retired. I was lucky to see him play and hear his stories about those past times. His story, for any interested: https://history.santacruzpl.org/omeka/items/show/82546#?c=0&m=0&s=0&cv=0
It is particularly meaningful when you have personal experience of an area and music so often is a link we can bring with us, wherever we go, as you mention in your memories of Japan. I thoroughly enjoyed all three of these, although the screams were a bit unnerving! I'm a jumpy person, lol.
I really appreciate the comments, and hope to try my hand at doing those again. Glad you liked all three. That Osorezan sounds like a rather different mix than in the version in my collection (a remastering, I mean). It's like they decided to up the horror quotient in the audio mixing to make it more extreme. For instance, it's like they took those screams to eleven (it's a little more subdued in my release version, but still ear piercing (and might give one a jump scare).
My time living in Japan, and interest in the culture, definitely makes such expression resonate more with me. I'd love to be back there for more than a short vacation
Your story on Tom Scribner is very interesting and I checked out the link. Thanks for sharing.
Mila-13 wrote:
Logan wrote:
Mila: I do think that would be too onerous on many, and it would be kind of sad to me for people to be left out of the two choices.
A possibility at some time to maybe consider, and others might loathe the idea, would be for the added extra options to fill out the list to act as "bonus" options. Those who wished to nominate an extra as a bonus could do so (depending on space), and the votes would be for three of the regular nominations plus one for a bonus song option for those who would wish to do so. I wouldn't want it to be first come first serve. Could write-in vote on which bonus ones to include, but then that would like having another round and that would be rather ridiculous.
Neat idea, Mila, and that or something like it I do find to be an interesting prospect, depending on how the details were worked out and planning took place, even if I think most would not like it. I think progressive music folks are often fairly conservative when it comes to trying new things. ;)
14 options is not uncommon for these polls, and we may get some more people joining in still.
"I think progressive music folks are often fairly conservative when it comes to trying new things."
I think, I will put this sentence in a frame!
I'm too spontanous, obviously. A vivacious southerner. lol We could discuss this in the team section at some point, or maybe not.
Progressive Archives: Your Ultimately Conservative Resource. ;)
If you're being spontaneous, then I like your spontaneity. I have to watch myself from being too spontaneous often because spontaneous plus me too often equals trouble as some of my failed home projects would attest too: "Uh oh, he's got the power tools out again."
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: August 31 2021 at 22:10
@ Greg
Well you know, I am new here. I have participated only three times so far. Your poll gave me the impression that this format was flexible which encouraged me to suggest a modification of the rules. Of course your topic did require two songs per participant. That's where the main difference is.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 31 2021 at 23:30
^ Mila, yep, and I personally would not be opposed to you doing it your way. I rather then would like the idea of the second choices being bonus ones to vote for (three votes for the primary nominations, and one vote for a bonus choice) but that's me, and this is your poll and your turn, not mine. I think these are flexible (I would hope so), although if making changes part way in, I would want to ask for opinions like you did if it was my turn. It's part of a series but each person can bring their own twists to it as I see it (certainly not against the forum rules). I think it was a good idea to bring it up as you did even if the consensus is of the "keep it the same" variety. In my Heaven and Hell poll I was going to just do one track per participant even though I didn't want to (I just felt like two duos in a row from me might seem a bit much), and then I was encouraged to do it as the duos soon after starting the poll.
Personally, I (excuse the tautology) would like to see these polls be free to try different and unexpected things and have new ideas coming into play within the same general framework. I'm a liberal-minded guy. I do understand that for some time constraints are a real issue, so some likely would prefer shorter polls and I felt concerned about nominating a 21 minute track this round, but then I did it anyway. I was encouraging in the last poll for a long track to be selected, and it did well in the votes. I like your idea.
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 01 2021 at 03:23
Mila-13 wrote:
General Info & Question
Hello everybody,
So
far we have 14 participants and in total there are 25 slots on the
poll. I was wondering whether it would make sense to give you guys the
chance to nominate more than just one song each?
That doesn't seem like a good idea to me... I share your
enthusiasm for these polls, they're a great and fun way to share music,
but it takes time to listen and eventually to comment. So, packing all
the 25 slots just because we have them will not add much to these polls
but will possibly estrange some of our valuable contributors. I mean,
some already only listen to the final nominations (which, with say 15
participants, takes up between 1h30/2h listening time). When one listens
to all suggestions put up this easily doubles or triples the time
spent. Some just don't have or want to spend so much time on it.
I
generally try to listen to all suggestions and comment on them all - I
do not always have the time and sometimes I don't get to the end of it.
In ten days the teaching season will start again and I will probably
have less time available than these last months.
I
would actually prefer to encourage people to listen to all suggestions
(and comment on them), than to pack the final nominations list, but
again: it is time consuming.
We have had some time consuming
polls (the duo polls, the album side poll) and they were extremely
interesting, but had less participants... I think it should be possible
to do these kind of polls every once in a while, but knowing that not
everybody who is generally participating will do so in these time
consuming ones.
We also had a discussion
earlier to keep the number of suggestions down to two or maximum three.
This would possibly stimulate participants to listen to all music and
not just the nominations, but probably not for everyone. On the other
hand, it is fun to see sometimes a fourth suggestion (or even fifth)
coming up, as a result of the comments/discussions and it would be a
pity to exclude this kind of spontaneity and exchange. But still, it
takes time to listen to all of them and not everybody want/can invest
that in these wonderful polls.
So, to cut a
long story short: I think that about 15 final nominations is a nice
average for these polls to keep everybody on board. We once had 25
nominations (I think it was your first participation, Mila?) and I
noticed that some were a bit overwhelmed by it... So was I actually, and
a next time I might be more reticent to comment on all of those
suggestions, despite the fact that I think that the comments add much
value to these polls (sometimes mine were very short, or just absent,
because of time constraints).
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The razamataz is a pain in the bum
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: September 01 2021 at 04:15
Snicolette wrote:
Welcome to conducting one of these polls, Mila! Here are my first thoughts on the first half of Page One, usually I split the first page, as it tends to be most active.
Mila: “Asia
Destination World Introduction to Asia,” just for info. Great idea, since not everyone thinks of some
countries being in, or partly in, Asia, I would think. “Sounds and Colours of Asia” Another info piece. So many wonderful, diverse instruments, sounds
and styles.
Thank you Nickie, I'm glad that you liked the videos! It was not so easy to find something appropriate about the entire continent. The first video is from National Geographic Kids, but they had the most beautiful pictures.
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 01 2021 at 04:50
suitkees wrote:
We also had a discussion
earlier to keep the number of suggestions down to two or maximum three.
This would possibly stimulate participants to listen to all music and
not just the nominations, but probably not for everyone. On the other
hand, it is fun to see sometimes a fourth suggestion (or even fifth)
coming up, as a result of the comments/discussions and it would be a
pity to exclude this kind of spontaneity and exchange. But still, it
takes time to listen to all of them and not everybody want/can invest
that in these wonderful polls.
Of course some suggest four things totalling 18 minutes and sometimes a single proposal takes 23.
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: September 01 2021 at 04:58
suitkees wrote:
[QUOTE=Mila-13]
That doesn't seem like a good idea to me...
Now I can understand your concern, Kees. I did mention in the rules that 3 songs per participant would be reasonable but I can't ask people to delete their videos that they have already posted, can I? If we had less of those long pieces things would be a bit easier, too. I have not much experience with these polls here. I participate in a few online song contests but they work differently. There you have more people and shorter songs, 4-5 min at the max. Also people do comment on the music but much less than here and it is more competitive, you see?
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 01 2021 at 05:09
^ No, no, Mila, you don't have to change anything. Things are going as they were going before, so all's fine. Your new suggestion is a valid one, but I'm just not in for it.
@Lewian: you know, my three suggestions in your talk talk poll totalled up to 73 minutes... So I'm guilty as hell! (did I put up a fourth one...?)
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The razamataz is a pain in the bum
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: September 01 2021 at 05:28
@ Kees
I think, compromise is the best solution in such a situation. Maybe the total length of the suggested songs should be decisive rather than the number of songs. But of course that would also affect the number of songs to some extent, indirectly. I mean, people could still share those long pieces if they wish, but out of competition, maybe or in a separate category as Greg has suggested earlier (bonus tracks). ;)
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: September 01 2021 at 18:02
First thought on the rest of Page One:
Christian:Anoushka Shankar “Land of Gold”As expected, sitar music, but a British (I think)
vocalist, cello and toned metal drums set the stage. Understated mixture of East
and West, with two girls from oviously other cultures than each other walk with
each other in the video, illustrating the essence of the song.The music picks up in intensity.Another gorgeous piece in this poll.Cornelius “Audio Architecture” Live
performance this time.Ah,
whangles and curving keys and guitar notes start this one out.Very jazz feeling to me, but the vocals are
not really a jazz type vocal, kind of more spoken than sung.Some electronic wriggles and keyboard runs
provide punctuation throughout.Discordant sort of keyed horns and jumbled
vocal effects, then back to the main theme, than an abrupt ending.Talvin Singh “Seven Notes”Sounds of great interest before even hearing it, from your
description.Almost keyboard tapping sounds
with soft keyboard tones, an eerie and plaintive voice enters, with lots of
echo and such.Some guitar notes play
here and there, then pick up again for a longer stretch in a repetitive
pattern. There is some scatting type of singing, again, I think he is uttering
drumbeats. Keyboards enter and play a
horn sort of sound, mizmar-ish, yet slightly deeper in tone.Haunting and mesmerizing.
Shadowyzard:
Quite looking forward to hearing some of the music of your
homeland! Fatih Erkoc “Emmoglu” Live performance with a male vocalist doing
what I think of as very classic Turkish vocal.
Electric band is behind him, there is the sound of a ney, very quietly
(may be being one on a keyboard). Band
comes in, really modern song, sung in English.
He does a good imitation of Louis Armstrong for a moment. Singer plays trumpet in a solo, then back to
Turkish (Habibi means beloved, does it not?) classic type singing. Then sound of a santur (?) (again on
keys?). Then sort of a Tom Jones performance,
with microphone flourishes and such. Haktan Canevi “Beddua” Here we have Oriental orchestra setting, just
beautiful music. Another classic Turkish
type vocal, wondering how/if it will get switched up. This almost gets operatic in style, yet
retaining obviously Turkish rather than Italian language, showcasing his
range. Love the way everyone is clapping
along and enjoying so much.Stunning, really quite enjoyed
this one. Erkan Gümüşsuyu “Yıllar” Another Oriental Orchestra type setting with
dumbek heard a bit more than in the two previous. Very smooth singing style, thinking this may
be a much-loved song that he is covering?
Very passionate performance, really hits those high notes. The orchestral melody is also very beautiful.
The judges are very appreciative. I prefer the middle of the 3, however.
Mike: Kahimi
Karie “Lolitapop Dollhouse” This is much
more rocky than many of the previous entrants.
Makes me think a lot of punk, she talk/sings in a very little girl type
voice over very raucous instrumentation.
Compelling to listen to, even though I have no idea what she is
singing. They way they layer it is much
more sophisticated than punk. There is a
break a bit over mid-way, to add interest.
Jaminai “Prelude/Onda” I almost
brought this myself, but like Mila, noticed that you’d reviewed them, so left
them for you. I hope some here haven’t
heard them yet, they are in for a wonderful surprise! Sales “Off and On” Definitely
get the alt-rock vibe right from the start.
There is a repeating guitar, bass and drums riffing under the female
vocalist’s soft delivery. Lead guitar is
sort surf-y, nice tone to it. Feels very
much like a summer beach sort of tune, or driving on the coast.
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: September 01 2021 at 23:08
^ Thanks Nickie. In Fatih Erkoç's performance, the part with "habibi" is sung in Arabic actually. In the middle, he apologetically asks people, like "I hope no one here epeaks Arabic?" We borrowed (and adapted to our phonetic style) lots of words from Arabic, but we did the same from some Western languages too, mostly from French.
Glad that you enjoyed my picks.
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: September 01 2021 at 23:44
Fareed Haque. Is father is Pakistani, mother is Chilean, and he fuses those influences and many more into some amazing guitar-based jazz-rock fusion.
His stage act includes traditional Pakistani and Indian instrumentation (Fareed plays the amazing fretless oud).
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 02 2021 at 04:04
Nicky: Thanks, as always a great read! I was wondering whether the vocals might be a problem for Cornelius, they're rather, let's say, "functional", but the spectacular live show didn't leave me the option to pick something else.
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: September 02 2021 at 04:24
cstack3 wrote:
Fareed Haque. Is father is Pakistani, mother is Chilean, and he fuses those influences and many more into some amazing guitar-based jazz-rock fusion.
His stage act includes traditional Pakistani and Indian instrumentation (Fareed plays the amazing fretless oud).
Hey, welcome on board! This is great stuff, indeed. Do you have an individual song that you want to share or could you please select one from this concert instead and tell me where it starts?
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: September 02 2021 at 07:44
Shadowyzard wrote:
^ Thanks Nickie. In Fatih Erkoç's performance, the part with "habibi" is sung in Arabic actually. In the middle, he apologetically asks people, like "I hope no one here epeaks Arabic?" We borrowed (and adapted to our phonetic style) lots of words from Arabic, but we did the same from some Western languages too, mostly from French.
Glad that you enjoyed my picks.
I should have gone for the more generic "Middle Eastern." Languages are fascinating, how they evolve over time.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: September 02 2021 at 07:59
^ FYI, I don't deem my country as Middle-Eastern. Not that I get disturbed when someone does, but that is just a Westernized categorisation. Lots of Turks -generally the ones who see our public as inferior, immoral ignorants- agree with you, lots don't (including myself). A note here: I don't intend to insult the Middle-Easterners here. But, unfortunately, lots of Turks use the condition of being Middle-Eastern, with their wording as a slur. Bitter truth...
Ah, I also don't think that most of the Americans are stupid. That is also a common view in here. But, if I have to be honest, I think that there are LOTS of ignorants in Turkey and the USA. Perhaps we had better try to be like the Europeans in this regard.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: September 02 2021 at 08:14
Shadowyzard wrote:
^ FYI, I don't deem my country as Middle-Eastern. Not that I get disturbed when someone does, but that is just a Westernized categorisation. Lots of Turks -generally the ones they see our public as inferior, immoral ignorants- agree with you, lots don't (including myself).
Ah, I also don't think that most of the Americans are stupid. That is also a common view in here. But, if I have to be honest, I think that there are LOTS of ignorants in Turkey and the USA. Perhaps we had better try to be like the Europeans in this regard.
Oh, I certainly don't see any particular nation as "inferior," I'm fascinated with how other people live around the world and respect them their right to be different from my country. It also cuts both ways, usually ultra-extremism of any sort starts to lose my respect, as it tends to disallow other ways of being and often resorts to violence. And that goes for any in my own country as well, we've sadly seen a sharp uptick of extremism and bigotry here, over the last few years in particular. And sadly, there seems to be more ignorance of late here than ever before. But that's another topic altogether.
Edited to add also that I wish my country would adopt policies, attitudes, and mores that I find to be more humane and inclusive from other countries.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: September 02 2021 at 08:14
Lewian wrote:
Nicky: Thanks, as always a great read! I was wondering whether the vocals might be a problem for Cornelius, they're rather, let's say, "functional", but the spectacular live show didn't leave me the option to pick something else.
It was quite the extravaganza!
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: September 02 2021 at 08:16
^ Well said, Nicky. I also edited my post and made a clarification. You may want to read it again.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: September 02 2021 at 08:21
Shadowyzard wrote:
^ Well said, Nicky. I also edited my post and made a clarification. You may want to read it again.
Ah, I see. Well, I would have had no idea if you'd not let me know, so I appreciate deepening my understanding and appreciate that you shared that.
I also was inspired to edit my original response, for my country would do well to adopt much from other countries as well, at least in my opinion.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: September 02 2021 at 17:55
First thoughts on Page Two entries, plus one addition.
Shadowyzard: Finn
Zierler “Beyond Twilight – Shadow Self” A
short, rapid piece on keyboarded organ sound, very dramatic. There is also a steady percussive sound and
the keys move into orchestral sounds as well, along with some clonking kinds of
sounds. Stops kind of abruptly.
Kees: Sounds
very interesting to me! Here we go. Altin Gün “Tatlı Dile Güler Yüze” Electric band with a Farfisa sounding organ, female
vocalist. Nice electric oud and saz,
maybe? Very 60’s/70’s as you said, I
really like what I’m hearing here. Very
plinky on the Farisa thingie. Great beat
for dancing, felt a wee bit short. Altin Gün “Şad Olup Gülmedim” Begins with some atmospheric whirring, quickly
goes into an inspired saz feature. Male
vocalist this time. Just gorgeous,
contemplative music. Altin Gün “Süpürgesi Yoncadan” This one has a very pointed electronic feel,
as you stated, sorta disco-y. I prefer
the first two to this, but it is always fun to hear that combination of ancient
and modern. Altin Gün ”Yüce Dağ Başında” Another electronic one, fun to see the band
here. Female singer again. A bit of an 80’s feel with the shimmery keys
and electronic drums, with handclaps. The
first two are strongest for me, here. Definitely
checking them out on bandcamp, thanks!
I prophesy disaster: Baraka “Balinese
Monkey Chant” Love the start with the bell-percussion instruments. Here
again are a bunch of vocalizations, that sound like drum beats to my ear, but
as I don’t know the language, it could be my ignorance. Reminds me of a Balinese “Meetings With Remarkable
Men,” as far as the video goes. Chanting
in unison and making more of the vocalizations, in a large choreographed scene. Fascinating!
Kinda makes one want some of what they’re having, lol!
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: September 03 2021 at 01:14
Snicolette wrote:
Shadowyzard: Finn
Zierler “Beyond Twilight – Shadow Self” A
short, rapid piece on keyboarded organ sound, very dramatic. There is also a steady percussive sound and
the keys move into orchestral sounds as well, along with some clonking kinds of
sounds. Stops kind of abruptly.
That part is from Beyond Twilight's sophomore album Section X's song entitled Shadow Self. I think that "steady percussive sound" serves as a metronome click. Finn Zierler must have used it for perfect precision in playing. I think he succeeded. I guess he was practicing for the recording there. Thanks for your take.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: September 03 2021 at 07:45
Shadowyzard wrote:
That part is from Beyond Twilight's sophomore album Section X's song entitled Shadow Self. I think that "steady percussive sound" serves as a metronome click. Finn Zierler must have used it for perfect precision in playing. I think he succeeded. I guess he was practicing for the recording there. Thanks for your take.
Indeed, I was thinking it sounded like a click track, but usually it wouldn't be in the mix, just in the artist's ear during recording. Will see if I can find a version of the entire piece, just for fun.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: September 03 2021 at 08:40
^ Nice! Glad that you're interested, really. Beyond Twilight is also one of the "for fun" bands for me. Like watching a dark horror film, without disturbing gory stuff. BTW, its video clip is awesome, but the song is quite shortened there for obvious reasons. Also, this is not one of the songs of BT showcasing Zierler's virtuosity. I think he is a great guy, as he was the founder and the leader of the band, and he let his keyboard solo removed, instead of the guitar solo in this song's video.
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: September 03 2021 at 11:04
For my second nomination, I present Japanese math rock toe - Esoteric:
------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: September 03 2021 at 19:04
First impressions on most of Page Three:
Cristi: Atravan “My Wrecked House” Rock sounding start, heavy drums, guitars
bass and keys. Very emotive male vocalist.
The piece picks up into a more heavy vocal. An apocalyptic vision of the world. Searing lead guitar, with the band carrying
on underneath with the repeated basic melody and some whirly organ
flourishes. Scales back for a bit, then
back full-bore, with the vehement vocal reemerging. Song ends fairly abruptly. Lovebites “Rising” Orchestral hits and full band wastes no time
in going into a doubled-type lead guitar with an all-female band. Has a bit of an 80’s feel to me. Rockin’ bunch of ladies, with an upbeat
message. Nice bridge break featuring the vocalist and pianist, then right back
to business, with a lead guitar solo. Casiopea “Time Limit” Here is a jazzy start, drums, bass,
horns. Goes into some pretty nifty bass
riffs with keyboard embellishments, horns jump back in, then to an electric
piano run. Now it’s the guitar’s time to
shine, horns punctuate again, then bass bubbles in and out with keyboards. Sax solo is up next. Nice, tight band. Mono “Nowhere, Now Here” Live
outing this time some quiet guitar notes begin this one, which may be moody,
perhaps. Drums enter quietly. There is a swelling sort of sound (keys? Or
something like a cello? Can’t tell yet). Contemplative tone being set. Ah, now comes the apocalypse. I like it here. It was strings, after all. Guessing this will be my favourite of yours,
Cristi. Builds into a lovely climactic
wash of guitar, about halfway in, still keeping with that hopelessness in
emotional feel. Everyone joins back in
as the piece comes to fever pitch.
Excellent! Skyharbor
“Evolution” Heavy right out of the box.
Washes and heavy rinses of guitars and drums, another apocalyptic
feeling one. Male vocalist, the vocals
have a very different feel than what I would have expected from the start of
the piece. He does get into vehemence
eventually, but it is more tempered than straight metal. Plenty of power, but well-forged.
Mila:Anandi Bhattacharya “In Between Us”
More of the sort of perhaps drum vocalisations, with table, some male
ones first, then a very pretty female vocal from the main artist. The male “singing,” is delegated to the back,
while she occupies the fore. Sitar also joins in (or was that her father on
slide guitar?). Very ornate and haunting. Kikuo ft. Hanatan “The Girl That Sells
Misfortune” Sounds perhaps like a
Japanese folk tale, put to music, from the title. Ah, now I see what you wrote below, it’s for
a video game (kinda of a folk tale, after all).
Very electronic sounding at first, but regular keyboards enter in and
there is a very light sort of female vocal, she sounds a bit sarcastic to me, with
some whang and wonks in a percussive manner.
I like the scribble people, very interesting way to depict despair, but
this is about the music, not the video. Music wanders back and forth from
electronic to the vocalist. Isfar Sarabski & Band “Novruz”
I’m anticipating that I’ll prefer this one the most. Very rapid solo piano begins the piece, it
soon starts to pull together into a beautiful, contemplative melody. However will I come up with three favourites
out of this whole poll? The pace picks
up and the whole band joins in. Not sure
what the lead string instrument is, looks like a tenor sort of saz if there is
such a thing. Standup bass and strings
are included with this ensemble and drums (very understated). Music returns to the quiet piano once
again. Again into a more ecstatic part,
with the stringed instrument to the fore.
Back to the piano, this time in a much more jazz sort of frame, then back again to the more
oriental feel. This is more of a
conversation between 2 styles as opposed to more of an amalgamation for the
most part, but the ending does make them meet in the middle.
Mirakaze:
The Monks of the
Dip Tse Chok Ling Monastery “A Traditional Composition for Gya Ling and Dung
Chen” Blaring sound at first (one of
those deep horn things?), then a chorus of smaller horns and some
chanting. Very promising beginning! Reminds me quite a bit of The Pipes of Pan at
Jujuka that Brian Jones produced. The higher
horns create a swirl of sounds, with the deeper horn punctuating from time to
time. Very hypnotic.Toru Takemitsu “Dodes’kaden”
Plaintively beautiful tune on a stringed instrument, delicate keyboards
(or marimba?) and swelling orchestra. A
concertina-like instrument wanders in for a moment, as do some flutes. Flute
then comes to the fore, in a lilting melody, backed with the orchestra. A sort of stilted march of sorts next with
some sort of odd froglike horn and another melody, with the concertina thing
again and the full orchestra swelling.
Flute here sounds almost like an ocarina. The piece is sometimes momentarily
whimsical. It seems like it may be an
overture?anNina “対象a”Piano with some plinky-ness going on, then
orchestra and a dulcet-toned female vocal.
This one has a jazz feel to it. Lovely
break about halfway through with strings.
Sounds like a harp is added in after the break for a moment. I really enjoy all three of
yours, I have no idea which I would choose, either, if it were up to me.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 04 2021 at 04:26
Snicolette wrote:
Cristi: Atravan “My Wrecked House” Rock sounding start, heavy drums, guitars
bass and keys. Very emotive male vocalist.
The piece picks up into a more heavy vocal. An apocalyptic vision of the world. Searing lead guitar, with the band carrying
on underneath with the repeated basic melody and some whirly organ
flourishes. Scales back for a bit, then
back full-bore, with the vehement vocal reemerging. Song ends fairly abruptly. Lovebites “Rising” Orchestral hits and full band wastes no time
in going into a doubled-type lead guitar with an all-female band. Has a bit of an 80’s feel to me. Rockin’ bunch of ladies, with an upbeat
message. Nice bridge break featuring the vocalist and pianist, then right back
to business, with a lead guitar solo. Casiopea “Time Limit” Here is a jazzy start, drums, bass,
horns. Goes into some pretty nifty bass
riffs with keyboard embellishments, horns jump back in, then to an electric
piano run. Now it’s the guitar’s time to
shine, horns punctuate again, then bass bubbles in and out with keyboards. Sax solo is up next. Nice, tight band. Mono “Nowhere, Now Here” Live
outing this time some quiet guitar notes begin this one, which may be moody,
perhaps. Drums enter quietly. There is a swelling sort of sound (keys? Or
something like a cello? Can’t tell yet). Contemplative tone being set. Ah, now comes the apocalypse. I like it here. It was strings, after all. Guessing this will be my favourite of yours,
Cristi. Builds into a lovely climactic
wash of guitar, about halfway in, still keeping with that hopelessness in
emotional feel. Everyone joins back in
as the piece comes to fever pitch.
Excellent! Skyharbor
“Evolution” Heavy right out of the box.
Washes and heavy rinses of guitars and drums, another apocalyptic
feeling one. Male vocalist, the vocals
have a very different feel than what I would have expected from the start of
the piece. He does get into vehemence
eventually, but it is more tempered than straight metal. Plenty of power, but well-forged.
I'm happy you enjoyed Mono, one of the best bands out there, highly recommended, you should explore their discography.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: September 04 2021 at 07:51
I just might do that.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 04 2021 at 12:32
when's the deadline for final nominations?
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: September 04 2021 at 12:42
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: September 04 2021 at 14:26
INFO - Nomination Deadline: Sunday 5. September 2021
Hi everybody,
I'm sorry for being a bit late. Now that all suggestions are in, I would like to ask you to nominate your final choice, if possible until tomorrow evening, by about 22:00 CET. Otherwise Monday would be fine as well.
For overview I have made a playlist including all your suggestions. You can find all info also on the first page of this thread.
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: September 04 2021 at 14:32
Cristi wrote:
when's the deadline for final nominations?
See above. Cheers!
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: September 04 2021 at 15:02
I'll nominate
Kodo - Stomp for my pick.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 04 2021 at 15:05
Mila-13 wrote:
Cristi wrote:
when's the deadline for final nominations?
See above. Cheers!
ok, so I'll have until tomorrow to decide what to choose: Casiopea, Mono or Atravan. Tough choice.
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 04 2021 at 15:24
^ Haven't commented yet on the songs, and I doubt I will come to it for all suggestions put up, but of your choices, my preference would be Mono.
Some that stood out for me up till now (of what I've listened to):
- Harry Partch
- Dewa Alit & Gamelan Salukat
- Geinoh Yamashirogumi
- Jambinai
- Kikuo ft.
Hanatan
(tbc...)
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: September 04 2021 at 15:25
Cristi wrote:
Mila-13 wrote:
Cristi wrote:
when's the deadline for final nominations?
See above. Cheers!
ok, so I'll have until tomorrow to decide what to choose: Casiopea, Mono or Atravan. Tough choice.
However you have meanwhile eliminated 2/5 of your choices: Lovebites (JPN), Skyharbor (IND/UK).
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 04 2021 at 16:39
I would like to stick with the following as my nomination:
Geinoh Yamashirogumi - Osorezan (芸能山城組 - 恐山)
------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: September 04 2021 at 18:26
I stick with Dewa Alit & Gamelan Salukat as my nomination.
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: September 04 2021 at 19:00
Throwing a curve ball here (using an American expression stemming from baseball), and nominating a band I did not previously post a video for, but referenced in my post about Korean music.
Black String - Hanging Gardens of Babylon
This is from their 2019 album Karma, which I recommend.
(If this is not allowed, I will nominate Wahh World Fusion Band - Desire on Fire.)
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 04 2021 at 23:48
my nomination
Mono - Nowhere, Now Here
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: September 05 2021 at 08:02
Torn between all of my selections, but going with The Chieftains ft Akiko Yano and "Sake in the Jar," as I always enjoy cultures blending.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 05 2021 at 09:50
With little listening time in my hands the previous week unfortunately I haven't managed to listen to almost anything. This is a big pity because I'm very curious about this poll and will hopefully take some time to catch up with all the suggestions, not just the final list. (One thing I did with my time was to be on a festival where I could see Banco del Mutuo Soccorso live!)
I also had a hard time deciding between my own suggestions. All of them would deserve a nomination, but ultimately I'll annoy most of you by picking the longest and most abstract one, Toshimaru Nakamura - Live at Japanorama, on p.3, which maybe nobody has heard yet.
Maybe the Japanese didn't invent avantgarde electronic but they are quite leading at it, so it is actually in some sense a more Asian thing than the marvellous song by Anoushka Shankar (that maybe makes me think "London" too much) or Talvin Singh's music who is actually British (that's just a badly constructed and limping argument to make a choice though). Regarding Cornelius, the videos I love most are good live videos and this is one of the best... except this is not a video contest. The music isn't bad either, supremely coordinated teamwork and musical interaction in the band, still I may have been bewitched by the video, so Nakamura it is.