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Poll Question: Favorite vintage swede?
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    Posted: July 19 2022 at 10:54
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Edit: updated with a few favorites I forgot: Now it's a "top twentyfive" swedish classic era albums, but its not written in stone:

Ragnarök - Ragnarök
Oriental Wind - Zikir
Merit Hemmingson - Huvva! (Trollskog is almost as great)
Kultivator - Barndomens Stigar
Bo Hansson - Ur Trollkarlens Hatt (but all four albums are wonderful)
Björn J:son Lindh - Ramadan (Cous Cous is equally great)
Turid - Bilder
Kvartetten Som Sprängde - Kattvals
Nya Ljudbolaget - Nya Ljudbolaget
Samla Mammas Manna - Samla Mammas Manna (like their two next too, but this is more to my taste)
Älgarnas Trädgård - Delayed (Framtiden är ett svävande skepp, förankrat i fortiden - also very good)
Arbete och Fritid - Arbete & Fritids Andra LP (love their debut too)
Archimedes Badkar - Tre (love their three first)
Kebnekaise - Kebnekaise (III is nice as well)
Anna Sjalv Tredje - Tussilago Fanfara
Pugh Rogefeldt - Pughish (Ja, dä ä dä is about equally awesome/uneven)
Kornet - Kornet
Vildkaktus - Vindarnas Vägar (Tidsmaskinen is quite lovely too)
Lotus - Lotus
Blåkulla - Blåkulla
Pop Workshop - Vol. 1 (if you like it, you'd surely enjoy Song Of The Pterodactyl as well)
Ibis - Ibis
Janne Schaffer - Janne Schaffer (Andra LP is good too)
Zamla Mammaz Manna - Schlagerns Mystik (but of course its really just Samla)
Atlas - Blå Vardag
Now that almost a year has passed, you've probably plowed your way through this list of EXCELLENT reccomendations. So it's time to ask: after you gotten to know them all: which one's your favorite now?

-I threw SPLASH out of the poll as I needed the space for my possible favorite of the lot ORIENTAL WIND.


Edited by Saperlipopette! - July 19 2022 at 10:59
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Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

I must say that my favourite album from that period is Atlas- Bla Verdag from 1979 ! A sublime piece of prog
Yes its lovely, I wish I had remembered them while making the poll (included it among my album reccomendations, though).
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I must say that my favourite album from that period is Atlas- Bla Verdag from 1979 ! A sublime piece of prog
I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Thanks for the interesting and informative summary and sorry about the Wobbler error!
You're welcome - and no worries. Prog has become a genre where fans listen to music from all over the world. That's awesome and more important than remembering where every band is actually from.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

my knowledge of Swedish prog rock is severely lacking it seems!

I know Kaipa a bit from that era but deemed not good enough. Par Lindh composed most of Gothic Impressions decades before it was released in the 90's but not enough for it be 'vintage' . It does sound like it though! I love Anglagard and All Traps On Earth (and of course Wobbler!) so I wonder if any of the vintage stuff is better?!
I'm sure Kaipa is good enough. As far as I can remember they were just not something I personally enjoyed (its more than a decade ago though). I just picked 25 favorites from the early era (and forgot a few essential ones).  The vintage stuff is generally more playful, jazzier, folkier, psychedelic and (to me) more charming than the more recent prog. Sweden feels like it was an early melting pot in europe, with musicians from all over the world involved in the "scene". A lot of this is quite easy on the ears (Vildkaktus, Ragnarok, Merit Hemmingson...) and a few is probably too close to a "worldjazz" (Archimedes Badkar, Oriental Wind, Arbete och Fritid...) sort of prog/fusion for those who prefer the modern/retro thoroughly composed, symphonic scandianavians.

-Wobbler is norwegian btw.

Thanks for the interesting and informative summary and sorry about the Wobbler error!
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Originally posted by Progmind Progmind wrote:

Love the debut of Ragnarock, beautiful melancholic pastoral songs, followed by Kultivator and Zamla Mammas Manna
As you can see in my album list, I love Ragnaroks debut too
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

my knowledge of Swedish prog rock is severely lacking it seems!

I know Kaipa a bit from that era but deemed not good enough. Par Lindh composed most of Gothic Impressions decades before it was released in the 90's but not enough for it be 'vintage' . It does sound like it though! I love Anglagard and All Traps On Earth (and of course Wobbler!) so I wonder if any of the vintage stuff is better?!
I'm sure Kaipa is good enough. As far as I can remember they were just not something I personally enjoyed (its more than a decade ago though). I just picked 25 favorites from the early era (and forgot a few essential ones).  The vintage stuff is generally more playful, jazzier, folkier, psychedelic and (to me) more charming than the more recent prog. Sweden feels like it was an early melting pot in europe, with musicians from all over the world involved in the "scene". A lot of this is quite easy on the ears (Vildkaktus, Ragnarok, Merit Hemmingson...) and a few is probably too close to a "worldjazz" (Archimedes Badkar, Oriental Wind, Arbete och Fritid...) sort of prog/fusion for those who prefer the modern/retro thoroughly composed, symphonic scandianavians.

-Wobbler is norwegian btw.
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my knowledge of Swedish prog rock is severely lacking it seems!

I know Kaipa a bit from that era but deemed not good enough. Par Lindh composed most of Gothic Impressions decades before it was released in the 90's but not enough for it be 'vintage' . It does sound like it though! I love Anglagard and All Traps On Earth (and of course Wobbler!) so I wonder if any of the vintage stuff is better?!
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:


No Atlas??

Simply forgot them and edited Blå Vardag into my top 20 albums, which now is a top 25:)
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

I don't know many of these (Hansson, Ragnarök, Ibis, and Samla), but aren't Samla and Zamla pretty much the same band? Anyway, vote for Zamla as my favourite album of them is by Zamla.
Yes identical I think. I included both as they both have their own PA-page (but idential bio). And I guess this indicates that the namechange wasn't just for laughs, but because of a change in direction...

...in January 1977, SMM reformed as the subtly renammed Zamla Mammaz Manna, to indicate a new start and a new style with much more fiery and distinctly RIO type of rock fusion...
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Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Sorry, I could not properly vote in this, as I have only heard two of these artists, Flasket Brinner and Bo Hanson.
        I would like to give a shout out, though, for guitarist Janne Schaffer, who I think is a Swede, and was making some interesting music, including a group I like very much called Baltik, from '73.
Yes he'd deserve a place in the poll, but I forgot him. I actually own and really like Janne Schaffer's two first albums (the debut a little more).

He also plays on the two Pop Workshop albums: Vol. 1 and Song Of The Pterodactyl. I think you'd enjoy them both. Plus he is on Björn J:son Lindh'd excellent Cous Cous - which I warmly reccomend (+ Sissel which is solid fusion as well)

Btw: I forgot the swedish/turkish Oriental Wind too! Where he plays their great album Bazaar and which album Zikir is among my favorite albums regardless of nationality. Their self titled debut is up there as well.
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Samla though my favorite album by them is Zamla. Followed by Algarnas and Kultivator


Yeah, pretty close to my top on this list, though I would've coupled Samla and Zamla.
I went for Kebnekaise , but Myrbein & Ragnarok are also right up there.

No Atlas??

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

You do realize that most of them are unknown bands for the majority of us? How can we vote? I barely know 3 of them (MERIT HEMMINGSON, SAMLA MAMMAS MANNA, TRETTIOÅRIGA KRIGET) and I listen to a lot of Scandinavian music!

I'm not interested in making polls with the stuff everyone knows about. Sweden has plenty of big names in prog from the 1990's and on, but their vibrant music scene in the 1970's isn't as known - and I think it deserves some attention. You can use my album reccomendations as a chance to get into a whole scene you don't know about., or you can vote for your favorite among the ones you know.


Yup, I took a look at my Gnosis rating guide and indeed, it's mostly the post-90's that crowd my top swedish list.
Only Maltid (SMM), Ragna's debut & Framtiden (AT) are in my top 30, the rest being post-1991
I will have to remedy, resassess and readjust, because this situation perturbs me.




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Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

You do realize that most of them are unknown bands for the majority of us? How can we vote? I barely know 3 of them (MERIT HEMMINGSON, SAMLA MAMMAS MANNA, TRETTIOÅRIGA KRIGET) and I listen to a lot of Scandinavian music!
I'm not interested in making polls with the stuff everyone knows about. Sweden has plenty of big names in prog from the 1990's and on, but their vibrant music scene in the 1970's isn't as known - and I think it deserves some attention. You can use my album reccomendations as a chance to get into a whole scene you don't know about., or you can vote for your favorite among the ones you know.


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Love the debut of Ragnarock, beautiful melancholic pastoral songs, followed by Kultivator and Zamla Mammas Manna
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You do realize that most of them are unknown bands for the majority of us? How can we vote? I barely know 3 of them (MERIT HEMMINGSON, SAMLA MAMMAS MANNA, TRETTIOÅRIGA KRIGET) and I listen to a lot of Scandinavian music!
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Flasket Brinner needs a vote. Love their debut and I have a box set by them too. I'm surprised to see Lotus on here, I'm a big fan of two of their studio albums. Kultivator is awesome but then many of these bands are.
"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"

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Sorry, I could not properly vote in this, as I have only heard two of these artists, Flasket Brinner and Bo Hanson.
        I would like to give a shout out, though, for guitarist Janne Schaffer, who I think is a Swede, and was making some interesting music, including a group I like very much called Baltik, from '73.
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I don't know many of these (Hansson, Ragnarök, Ibis, and Samla), but aren't Samla and Zamla pretty much the same band? Anyway, vote for Zamla as my favourite album of them is by Zamla.
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No Flower Kings, Anglagard, Anekdoten, etc? Did Sweden stop making good music in 1979? Tongue
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Edit: updated with a few favorites I forgot: Now it's a "top twentyfive" swedish classic era albums, but its not written in stone:

Ragnarök - Ragnarök
Oriental Wind - Zikir
Merit Hemmingson - Huvva! (Trollskog is almost as great)
Kultivator - Barndomens Stigar
Bo Hansson - Ur Trollkarlens Hatt (but all four albums are wonderful)
Björn J:son Lindh - Ramadan (Cous Cous is equally great)
Turid - Bilder
Kvartetten Som Sprängde - Kattvals
Nya Ljudbolaget - Nya Ljudbolaget
Samla Mammas Manna - Samla Mammas Manna (like their two next too, but this is more to my taste)
Älgarnas Trädgård - Delayed (Framtiden är ett svävande skepp, förankrat i fortiden - also very good)
Arbete och Fritid - Arbete & Fritids Andra LP (love their debut too)
Archimedes Badkar - Tre (love their three first)
Kebnekaise - Kebnekaise (III is nice as well)
Anna Sjalv Tredje - Tussilago Fanfara
Pugh Rogefeldt - Pughish (Ja, dä ä dä is about equally awesome/uneven)
Kornet - Kornet
Vildkaktus - Vindarnas Vägar (Tidsmaskinen is quite lovely too)
Lotus - Lotus
Blåkulla - Blåkulla
Pop Workshop - Vol. 1 (if you like it, you'd enjoy Song Of The Pterodactyl)
Ibis - Ibis
Janne Schaffer - Janne Schaffer(Andra LP is good too)
Zamla Mammaz Manna - Schlagerns Mystik (but of course is just Samla)
Atlas - Blå Vardag


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