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Topic: made in swedenPosted By: Saperlipopette!
Subject: made in sweden
Date Posted: August 22 2021 at 11:55
Sweden produced a lot of inventive, fun and exiting progressive music in the 1970's-early 1980's. Pick a favorite act among my 25 favorite swedish acts of the classic era (unfortunately Made in Sweden didn't make the cut). Tell us your top three, five, ten - what your favorite album/albums are or whatever... If you hardly know any of these, you got a lot of great music to discover. I'll be back woth, lists, clips etc, but gotta go:)
Replies: Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: August 22 2021 at 12:05
Blåkulla's sole album is one of my favorite albums ever made rn. Also, why isn't Kaipa on the list? Too obvious?
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 22 2021 at 12:14
Hrychu wrote:
Blåkulla's sole album is one of my favorite albums ever made rn. Also, why isn't Kaipa on the list? Too obvious?
I simply don't like them (Kaipa), and this is my personal "top" 25 that I at least like or love one or two (or more) albums by. Love Blåkulla though.
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 22 2021 at 12:24
As for myself I think its between the comforting, warm sounds made by either Merit Hemmingson, Bo Hansson or Björn J-Son Lindh. But I pretty much love the peak-era by all 25 of them.
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 22 2021 at 12:49
Samla though my favorite album by them is Zamla. Followed by Algarnas and Kultivator
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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: August 22 2021 at 13:07
I have to give the vote to Mr. Hansson over Ragnarok for this list.
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Posted By: rik wilson
Date Posted: August 22 2021 at 13:09
I like Kornet,then Ibis and Anglagard.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 22 2021 at 13:48
Voting for just one here, or even if I could vote for three, feels wrong.
I guess my top three will be based on my gut right now will be:
- Björn J:son Lindh (Från storstad till grodspad is da bomb, and I love others) - Anna Själv Tredje (Tussilago Fanfara is one of my my favourite progressive electronic albums) - Bo Hannson (love Sagan om ringen and others.
Ragnarök, Kultivator, Älgarnas Trädgård, Samla Mammas Manna, Zamla Mammaz Manna and others would be easy votes if included in most PA polls.
Based on what I most feel like listening to right now, I'll go with Anna Själv Tredje.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 22 2021 at 13:55
SMM, of the ones I know.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 22 2021 at 14:07
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 22 2021 at 14:09
Logan wrote:
I guess my top three will be based on my gut right now will be:
- Björn J:son Lindh (Från storstad till grodspad is da bomb, and I love others) - Anna Själv Tredje (Tussilago Fanfara is one of my my favourite progressive electronic albums) - Bo Hannson (love Sagan om ringen and others.
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 22 2021 at 14:39
Edit: updated with a few favorites I forgot: Now it's a "top twentyfive" swedish classic era albums, but its not written in stone:
Ragnarök - Ragnarök
Oriental Wind - Zikir Merit Hemmingson - Huvva! (Trollskog is almost as great) Kultivator - Barndomens Stigar Bo Hansson - Ur Trollkarlens Hatt (but all four albums are wonderful) Björn J:son Lindh - Ramadan (Cous Cous is equally great)
Turid - Bilder
Kvartetten Som Sprängde - Kattvals Nya Ljudbolaget - Nya Ljudbolaget Samla Mammas Manna - Samla Mammas Manna (like their two next too, but this is more to my taste) Älgarnas Trädgård - Delayed (Framtiden är ett svävande skepp, förankrat i fortiden - also very good) Arbete och Fritid - Arbete & Fritids Andra LP (love their debut too)
Archimedes Badkar - Tre (love their three first)
Kebnekaise - Kebnekaise (III is nice as well) Anna Sjalv Tredje - Tussilago Fanfara Pugh Rogefeldt - Pughish (Ja, dä ä dä is about equally awesome/uneven)
Kornet - Kornet
Vildkaktus - Vindarnas Vägar (Tidsmaskinen is quite lovely too)
Lotus - Lotus Blåkulla - Blåkulla Pop Workshop - Vol. 1 (if you like it, you'd enjoySong Of The Pterodactyl)
Ibis - Ibis
Janne Schaffer - Janne Schaffer(Andra LP is good too)
Zamla Mammaz Manna - Schlagerns Mystik (but of course is just Samla)
Atlas - Blå Vardag
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 22 2021 at 15:21
No Flower Kings, Anglagard, Anekdoten, etc? Did Sweden stop making good music in 1979?
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 22 2021 at 15:22
I don't know many of these (Hansson, Ragnarök, Ibis, and Samla), but aren't Samla and Zamla pretty much the same band? Anyway, vote for Zamla as my favourite album of them is by Zamla.
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: August 22 2021 at 15:57
Sorry, I could not properly vote in this, as I have only heard two of these artists, Flasket Brinner and Bo Hanson.
I would like to give a shout out, though, for guitarist Janne Schaffer, who I think is a Swede, and was making some interesting music, including a group I like very much called Baltik, from '73.
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: August 22 2021 at 18:50
Flasket Brinner needs a vote. Love their debut and I have a box set by them too. I'm surprised to see Lotus on here, I'm a big fan of two of their studio albums. Kultivator is awesome but then many of these bands are.
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Posted By: projeKct
Date Posted: August 22 2021 at 19:45
You do realize that most of them are unknown bands for the majority of us? How can we vote? I barely know 3 of them (MERIT HEMMINGSON, SAMLA MAMMAS MANNA, TRETTIOÅRIGA KRIGET) and I listen to a lot of Scandinavian music!
Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: August 22 2021 at 22:24
Love the debut of Ragnarock, beautiful melancholic pastoral songs, followed by Kultivator and Zamla Mammas Manna
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 23 2021 at 00:18
projeKct wrote:
You do realize that most of them are unknown bands for the majority of us? How can we vote? I barely know 3 of them (MERIT HEMMINGSON, SAMLA MAMMAS MANNA, TRETTIOÅRIGA KRIGET) and I listen to a lot of Scandinavian music!
I'm not interested in making polls with the stuff everyone knows about. Sweden has plenty of big names in prog from the 1990's and on, but their
vibrant music scene in the 1970's isn't as known - and I think it
deserves some attention. You can use my album reccomendations as a chance to get into a whole scene you don't know about., or you can vote for your favorite among the ones you know.
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 23 2021 at 00:22
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Samla though my favorite album by them is Zamla. Followed by Algarnas and Kultivator
Yeah, pretty close to my top on this list, though I would've coupled Samla and Zamla.
I went for Kebnekaise , but Myrbein & Ragnarok are also right up there.
No Atlas??
Saperlipopette! wrote:
projeKct wrote:
You do realize that most of
them are unknown bands for the majority of us? How can we vote? I barely
know 3 of them (MERIT HEMMINGSON, SAMLA MAMMAS MANNA, TRETTIOÅRIGA
KRIGET) and I listen to a lot of Scandinavian music!
I'm not
interested in making polls with the stuff everyone knows about. Sweden
has plenty of big names in prog from the 1990's and on, but their
vibrant music scene in the 1970's isn't as known - and I think it
deserves some attention. You can use my album reccomendations as a
chance to get into a whole scene you don't know about., or you can vote
for your favorite among the ones you know.
Yup, I took a look at my Gnosis rating guide and indeed, it's mostly the post-90's that crowd my top swedish list.
Only Maltid (SMM), Ragna's debut & Framtiden (AT) are in my top 30, the rest being post-1991
I will have to remedy, resassess and readjust, because this situation perturbs me.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 23 2021 at 00:35
presdoug wrote:
Sorry, I could not properly vote in this, as I have only
heard two of these artists, Flasket Brinner and Bo Hanson.
I
would like to give a shout out, though, for guitarist Janne Schaffer,
who I think is a Swede, and was making some interesting music, including
a group I like very much called Baltik, from '73.
Yes he'd deserve a place in the poll, but I forgot him. I actually own
and really like Janne Schaffer's two first albums (the debut a little
more).
He also plays on the two Pop Workshop albums: Vol. 1 and Song Of The Pterodactyl. I think you'd enjoy them both. Plus he is on Björn J:son Lindh'd excellent Cous Cous - which I warmly reccomend (+ Sissel which is solid fusion as well)
Btw: I forgot the swedish/turkish Oriental Wind too! Where he plays their great album Bazaar and which album Zikir is among my favorite albums regardless of nationality. Their self titled debut is up there as well.
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 23 2021 at 01:07
Lewian wrote:
I don't know many of these (Hansson, Ragnarök, Ibis, and Samla), but aren't Samla and Zamla pretty much the same band? Anyway, vote for Zamla as my favourite album of them is by Zamla.
Yes identical I think. I included both as they both have their own PA-page (but idential bio). And I guess this indicates that the namechange wasn't just for laughs, but because of a change in direction...
...in January 1977, SMM reformed as the subtly renammed Zamla Mammaz Manna, to indicate a new start and a new style with much more fiery and distinctly RIO type of rock fusion...
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 23 2021 at 01:13
Sean Trane wrote:
No Atlas??
Simply forgot them and edited Blå Vardag into my top 20 albums, which now is a top 25:)
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 23 2021 at 02:53
my knowledge of Swedish prog rock is severely lacking it seems!
I know Kaipa a bit from that era but deemed not good enough. Par Lindh composed most of Gothic Impressions decades before it was released in the 90's but not enough for it be 'vintage' . It does sound like it though! I love Anglagard and All Traps On Earth (and of course Wobbler!) so I wonder if any of the vintage stuff is better?!
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 23 2021 at 04:57
richardh wrote:
my knowledge of Swedish prog rock is severely lacking it seems!
I know Kaipa a bit from that era but deemed not good enough. Par Lindh composed most of Gothic Impressions decades before it was released in the 90's but not enough for it be 'vintage' . It does sound like it though! I love Anglagard and All Traps On Earth (and of course Wobbler!) so I wonder if any of the vintage stuff is better?!
I'm sure Kaipa is good enough. As far as I can remember they were just not something I personally enjoyed (its more than a decade ago though). I just picked 25 favorites from the early era (and forgot a few essential ones). The vintage stuff is generally more playful, jazzier, folkier, psychedelic and (to me) more charming than the more recent prog. Sweden feels like it was an early melting pot in europe, with musicians from all over the world involved in the "scene". A lot of this is quite easy on the ears (Vildkaktus, Ragnarok, Merit Hemmingson...) and a few is probably too close to a "worldjazz" (Archimedes Badkar, Oriental Wind, Arbete och Fritid...) sort of prog/fusion for those who prefer the modern/retro thoroughly composed, symphonic scandianavians.
-Wobbler is norwegian btw.
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 23 2021 at 05:08
Progmind wrote:
Love the debut of Ragnarock, beautiful melancholic pastoral songs, followed by Kultivator and Zamla Mammas Manna
As you can see in my album list, I love Ragnaroks debut too
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 25 2021 at 00:59
Saperlipopette! wrote:
richardh wrote:
my knowledge of Swedish prog rock is severely lacking it seems!
I know Kaipa a bit from that era but deemed not good enough. Par Lindh composed most of Gothic Impressions decades before it was released in the 90's but not enough for it be 'vintage' . It does sound like it though! I love Anglagard and All Traps On Earth (and of course Wobbler!) so I wonder if any of the vintage stuff is better?!
I'm sure Kaipa is good enough. As far as I can remember they were just not something I personally enjoyed (its more than a decade ago though). I just picked 25 favorites from the early era (and forgot a few essential ones). The vintage stuff is generally more playful, jazzier, folkier, psychedelic and (to me) more charming than the more recent prog. Sweden feels like it was an early melting pot in europe, with musicians from all over the world involved in the "scene". A lot of this is quite easy on the ears (Vildkaktus, Ragnarok, Merit Hemmingson...) and a few is probably too close to a "worldjazz" (Archimedes Badkar, Oriental Wind, Arbete och Fritid...) sort of prog/fusion for those who prefer the modern/retro thoroughly composed, symphonic scandianavians.
-Wobbler is norwegian btw.
Thanks for the interesting and informative summary and sorry about the Wobbler error!
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 25 2021 at 14:25
richardh wrote:
Thanks for the interesting and informative summary and sorry about the Wobbler error!
You're welcome - and no worries. Prog has become a genre where fans listen to music from all over the world. That's awesome and more important than remembering where every band is actually from.
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: August 25 2021 at 14:42
I must say that my favourite album from that period is Atlas- Bla Verdag from 1979 ! A sublime piece of prog
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 25 2021 at 20:39
tszirmay wrote:
I must say that my favourite album from that period is Atlas- Bla Verdag from 1979 ! A sublime piece of prog
Yes its lovely, I wish I had remembered them while making the poll (included it among my album reccomendations, though).
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 19 2022 at 10:54
Saperlipopette! wrote:
Edit: updated with a few favorites I forgot: Now it's a "top twentyfive" swedish classic era albums, but its not written in stone:
Ragnarök - Ragnarök
Oriental Wind - Zikir Merit Hemmingson - Huvva! (Trollskog is almost as great) Kultivator - Barndomens Stigar Bo Hansson - Ur Trollkarlens Hatt (but all four albums are wonderful) Björn J:son Lindh - Ramadan (Cous Cous is equally great)
Turid - Bilder
Kvartetten Som Sprängde - Kattvals Nya Ljudbolaget - Nya Ljudbolaget Samla Mammas Manna - Samla Mammas Manna (like their two next too, but this is more to my taste) Älgarnas Trädgård - Delayed (Framtiden är ett svävande skepp, förankrat i fortiden - also very good) Arbete och Fritid - Arbete & Fritids Andra LP (love their debut too)
Archimedes Badkar - Tre (love their three first)
Kebnekaise - Kebnekaise (III is nice as well) Anna Sjalv Tredje - Tussilago Fanfara Pugh Rogefeldt - Pughish (Ja, dä ä dä is about equally awesome/uneven)
Kornet - Kornet
Vildkaktus - Vindarnas Vägar (Tidsmaskinen is quite lovely too)
Lotus - Lotus Blåkulla - Blåkulla Pop Workshop - Vol. 1 (if you like it, you'd surely enjoySong Of The Pterodactyl as well)
Ibis - Ibis
Janne Schaffer - Janne Schaffer (Andra LP is good too)
Zamla Mammaz Manna - Schlagerns Mystik (but of course its really just Samla)
Atlas - Blå Vardag
Now that almost a year has passed, you've probably plowed your way through this list of EXCELLENT reccomendations. So it's time to ask: after you gotten to know them all: which one's your favorite now?
-I threw SPLASH out of the poll as I needed the space for my possible favorite of the lot ORIENTAL WIND.