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Jimi Hendrix

Man I wish he'd been around longer. Vertible genius, and he would've just thrived in the 70s.
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Opeth, Pendragon, Gentle Giant, Radiohead, and Wobbler may all qualify, but, then, nobody's perfect.
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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

King Crimson - Even their relatively weak albums from the 80's are still very good. Their initial run from ITCOTCK to Red was superb.

XTC - Although still 'finding their sound' on the first two albums, everything from Drums & Wires to Apple Venus Vol 1 was incredible. The never put a foot wrong IMO.

Opeth - I really took to this band some years ago. They have moments of excellence but overall, they've never made a weak album.

VDGG - Always good quality, even in the later years they were at least very good.

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These come to mind (minimum of five albums):

King Crimson
Magenta
Thinking Plague
IZZ (if you exclude the Ampersand outtake albums)
Nexus
The Tangent
Anekdoten

I think I could come up with more, but there are so many bands where I haven't listened to their entire output it wouldn't be fair to add them.
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Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

For me it's got to be Pink Floyd. I really like just about all their albums, and there are very few songs I actually dislike (though, of course not all songs and albums are as brilliant as the best ones). Actually, even their "bad" albums end up being enjoyable for me.


To me Pink Floyd were consistently different too as no two albums sound especially similar, with the exception of the post-Waters era stuff. They did have their low points (More, MLR) but they are still better albums than what most other bands could manage in my opinion.



For me Wish you were Here and Animals are similar enough (and also, my two favourites, not only from Pink Floyd). Meddle has got that sound too, at least on Echoes and One of these Days. And Dark Side, sort of close, but it doesn't have such long songs. Also, I guess More and Obscured by Clouds (and the songs available for Zabriskie Point) sound very similar to me. And, I guess to a certain point, The Wall and The Final Cut.
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I have a hard time identifying a prog band that is consistently great, but some prog related bands that have a strong catalog would be Deep Purple and Uriah Heep. 

How about the Moody Blues?  We don't discuss them much on PA at all, they seem to have consistently good output.  Thoughts? 

My personal favorite, Yes, have laid their share of rotten eggs over the years!!  


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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Steely Dan (last 2 after hiatus are hit or miss)
XTC (not a bad lp imho)
Tull (a few clunkers here and there in later years)
King Crimson (Beat and Pair being hit or miss)
Led Zep (Coda being the exception)
The Beatles ( some 'filler' on White)
The Who (until 1980)
Wobbler (they only have 5 but are all very good)
Zappa &Mothers (up t0 the early 80's they are all good)
Beefheart (other than 2 duds in 1974)



Very Good list. I'll throw in Renaissance to prog it up a bit.


Renaissance were certainly consistently good throughout the seventies but they went off the boil in the eighties, which is probably not unrelated to all the line-up changes.


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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

How about the Moody Blues?  We don't discuss them much on PA at all, they seem to have consistently good output.  Thoughts? 


Certainly every album from 'Days of Future Passed' through to 'Seventh Sojourn' (and even the post-hiatus 'Octave') are all top quality. It's hard to think of one duff song, or filler track, on any of those releases.
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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

For me it's got to be Pink Floyd. I really like just about all their albums, and there are very few songs I actually dislike (though, of course not all songs and albums are as brilliant as the best ones). Actually, even their "bad" albums end up being enjoyable for me.


To me Pink Floyd were consistently different too as no two albums sound especially similar, with the exception of the post-Waters era stuff. They did have their low points (More, MLR) but they are still better albums than what most other bands could manage in my opinion.



For me Wish you were Here and Animals are similar enough (and also, my two favourites, not only from Pink Floyd). Meddle has got that sound too, at least on Echoes and One of these Days. And Dark Side, sort of close, but it doesn't have such long songs. Also, I guess More and Obscured by Clouds (and the songs available for Zabriskie Point) sound very similar to me. And, I guess to a certain point, The Wall and The Final Cut.


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For me my votes right now as of 2021 would be Iron Maiden, Paradise Lost, Symphony X , IQ and Arena.

I think none of these bands have a bad album at all.

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Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

For me my votes right now as of 2021 would be Iron Maiden, Paradise Lost, Symphony X , IQ and Arena.

I think none of these bands have a bad album at all.


I disagree about Maiden. Great suite of albums in the 80s, but starting with the 90s not so much. The only album coming close to classic Maiden is Brave New World. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

For me my votes right now as of 2021 would be Iron Maiden, Paradise Lost, Symphony X , IQ and Arena.

I think none of these bands have a bad album at all.


I disagree about Maiden. Great suite of albums in the 80s, but starting with the 90s not so much. The only album coming close to classic Maiden is Brave New World. 


I think Fear of the Dark and The X Factor of Iron Maiden are excellent albums. Okay, not as powerful as Powerslave; but they are more consistent. In most of the Iron Maiden albums, there are "weak" songs, or even filler songs. Powerslave's the first two and the last two songs are grandiose, but the middle is mediocre IMO. Some say Fear of the Dark also has weak songs, but I disagree. They at least flow seamlessly within the album. Also Fear of the Dark is a rare '90s album, that could evoke a genuine '80s spirit. A bit gloomy, but it still has the 80s' soul.

Brave New World is a pompous album, and lost all its charm for me. I was fascinated by it first, but I don't like it that much anymore.

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Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

For me my votes right now as of 2021 would be Iron Maiden, Paradise Lost, Symphony X , IQ and Arena.

I think none of these bands have a bad album at all.


I disagree about Maiden. Great suite of albums in the 80s, but starting with the 90s not so much. The only album coming close to classic Maiden is Brave New World. 


I think Fear of the Dark and The X Factor of Iron Maiden are excellent albums. Okay, not as powerful as Powerslave; but they are more consistent. In most of the Iron Maiden albums, there are "weak" songs, or even filler songs. Powerslave's the first two and the last two songs are grandiose, but the middle is mediocre IMO. Some say Fear of the Dark also has weak songs, but I disagree. They at least flow seamlessly within the album. Also Fear of the Dark is a rare '90s album, that could evoke a genuine '80s spirit. A bit gloomy, but it still has the 80s' soul.

Brave New World is a pompous album, and lost all its charm for me. I was fascinated by it first, but I don't like it that much anymore.

I like Fear of the Dark, a bit uneven but listenable. I also like The X Factor. Virtual XI on the other hand is unlistenable to me, IM's weakest effort, to put it nicely. Big smile
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^ Well, if you see Virtual XI like a "B-movie", you might enjoy it. I at least enjoy it. I'd rate it 5/10 as for its quality, but I still enjoy it. I confess that Como Estais Amigos made me cry, a couple of times.
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Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

^ Well, if you see Virtual XI like a "B-movie", you might enjoy it. I at least enjoy it. I'd rate it 5/10 as for its quality, but I still enjoy it. I confess that Como Estais Amigos made me cry, a couple of times.

not a good analogy, B-movie does not refer to quality, but small budget back when people used to go to the movies to see a double feature, the main movie and a second (b) smaller budget movie. Also there are b-movies that were very well put together, with good story-telling.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

^ Well, if you see Virtual XI like a "B-movie", you might enjoy it. I at least enjoy it. I'd rate it 5/10 as for its quality, but I still enjoy it. I confess that Como Estais Amigos made me cry, a couple of times.

not a good analogy, B-movie does not refer to quality, but small budget back when people used to go to the movies to see a double feature, the main movie and a second (b) smaller budget movie. Also there are b-movies that were very well put together, with good story-telling.


I didn't intend to do an analogy, and I didn't try to say anything to be taken so lliterally. I mean, it has its charm in its own way. Except the horrendous song called The Angel and the Gambler. One of the biggest jokes in music history! LOL

I know how you assess music in general, and I really think that you're a very good listener and an "assesser". (I farted this saying.) I also think that you're more focusing on the intellectual and creative side of music. I remember you saying that you gave Nightwish's latest album a 1 star. I haven't listened to it yet, but I'm sure that I'd give it a 2 or 3 stars, at worst. Smile
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Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

^ Well, if you see Virtual XI like a "B-movie", you might enjoy it. I at least enjoy it. I'd rate it 5/10 as for its quality, but I still enjoy it. I confess that Como Estais Amigos made me cry, a couple of times.

not a good analogy, B-movie does not refer to quality, but small budget back when people used to go to the movies to see a double feature, the main movie and a second (b) smaller budget movie. Also there are b-movies that were very well put together, with good story-telling.


I didn't intend to do an analogy, and I didn't try to say anything to be taken so lliterally. I mean, it has its charm in its own way. Except the horrendous song called The Angel and the Gambler. One of the biggest jokes in music history! LOL

I know how you assess music in general, and I really think that you're a very good listener and an "assesser". (I farted this saying.) I also think that you're more focusing on the intellectual and creative side of music. I remember you saying that you gave Nightwish's latest album a 1 star. I haven't listened to it yet, but I'm sure that I'd give it a 2 or 3 stars, at worst. Smile

Yes, you'd probably rate the last Nightwish higher than I did. For me it was a frustrating listen and I gave the album several chances because a lot of people praised it and I felt I was missing something LOL.

I enjoy the albums with Tarja, those albums were quite unique, despite the band wearing their influences on their sleeves. 
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Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Steely Dan (last 2 after hiatus are hit or miss)
XTC (not a bad lp imho)
Tull (a few clunkers here and there in later years)
King Crimson (Beat and Pair being hit or miss)
Led Zep (Coda being the exception)
The Beatles ( some 'filler' on White)
The Who (until 1980)
Wobbler (they only have 5 but are all very good)
Zappa &Mothers (up t0 the early 80's they are all good)
Beefheart (other than 2 duds in 1974)



Very Good list. I'll throw in Renaissance to prog it up a bit.


Renaissance were certainly consistently good throughout the seventies but they went off the boil in the eighties, which is probably not unrelated to all the line-up changes.
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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Death, Atheist, Opeth, King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard, Haken, Harmonium, Wobbler, Enslaved, and from everything i've heard so far, Steve Hillage. Even though Gentle Giant had an anticlimactic ending to their career, their run from Debut-Interview is near perfection, and I even like Missing Piece.

Mad bonus points to you for Death, Atheist, Hramonium, and GG!

I'll add:
  • Gorguts
  • Nocturnus
  • Spastic Ink

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