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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Yeah you have to be pretty tone deaf to think giving your music COVID related lyrics is a good idea. Basing your subject matter on something that almost universally reminds people of a miserable time in their lives. Especially with phrases like "The Strangest Times" the type of sh*t we heard on every commercial for a good year. Instantly dated, but with that said, I think this is a strong release from the band, even the aforementioned song. I have to listen to it more but it does kinda of hinder my enjoyment of the album a little bit.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dougmcauliffe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2021 at 06:59
Yeah you have to be pretty tone deaf to think giving your music COVID related lyrics is a good idea. Basing your subject matter on something that almost universally reminds people of a miserable time in their lives. Especially with phrases like "The Strangest Times" the type of sh*t we heard on every commercial for a good year. Instantly dated, but with that said, I think this is a strong release from the band, even the aforementioned song. I have to listen to it more but it does kinda of hinder my enjoyment of the album a little bit.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2021 at 05:17
Originally posted by foregonillusions foregonillusions wrote:

Appreciate your thoughts, gentlemen. Apollo is a fantastic track; one of the best instrumentals I've heard this year. That aside, does anybody worry that some of the tracks on this album will sound dated due to its relation with current events? (They're also pretty corny, I think.)

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I'm kinda blown away. Addition by subtraction? I loved Grand Tour (actually my favorite of 2019) but this feels more focused. It's plenty weird too. David's odd baritone, the Elton John thing on the opening track, "Black As Ink" sounding for all the world like "Kids In America" and a Dave Gregory-less version of the band doing their best XTC impersonation ("Dandelion Clock.") 

And the epic is perfect. Just wow.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote foregonillusions Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2021 at 23:27
Appreciate your thoughts, gentlemen. Apollo is a fantastic track; one of the best instrumentals I've heard this year. That aside, does anybody worry that some of the tracks on this album will sound dated due to its relation with current events? (They're also pretty corny, I think.)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2021 at 15:14
^ It's seems very odd to me that David would try and sing in such a low register on track 2 when there is a natural baritone in the band . Agreed that it works very well though. btw thanks for the info on the FaceBook group.
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Another great album - fresh ideas along with a typical BBT feel. My current track rating is: 

The Strangest Times ****
All The Love We Can Give ***
Black With Ink ****
Dandelion Clock *****
Headwaters ****
Apollo *****
Common Ground ****
Atlantic Cable *****
Endnotes *****

That’s an unweighted 4.33 score (in progarchives style) for me.

Tracks 1-3 took most time to click for me. A few have not liked the topical lockdown lyrics, but For me they provide a nice, almost innocent sense of time and place. Track 2 has David singing in a lower register and Nick contributes the higher register vocals more. Many like the freshness of this approach, although I miss David’s usual vocal style here. Credit for him wanting to stretch his range more, though. However, the key is treating the song on its merits alone and not necessarily a typical BBT song. It is growing on me. Track 3 has multi-vocals, but for many it is the hint of Kim Wilde’s Kids In America that is distracting. However, the more-instrumental second half more than banishes those minor concerns and is very progressive. Track 4 is more typical BBT loveliness and Rikard’s keyboard interlude in Track 5 works very well before the power and majesty of the instrumental Track 6 - which should be a real live proggy highlight. It works well within the album setting, as does the title track on Track 7 - once again typical BBT in structure. Track 8 is the highlight for me - a true BBT epic that is getting some rave postings. The Final track, Track 9, is proving equally popular with most, with real emotion and beautiful brass work as it concludes. 

With the many personnel changes, I think Greg, Nick, Rikard and David have found a balance between keeping things recognisably BBT, but also pushing the envelope more - and whilst the earlier tracks require more plays to get used to those differences, it is worthwhile. Track 4 onwards hits more immediately. Nick seems to be getting more freedom in driving the content on this one, along with the others. I feel the drums, and Greg’s bass, are higher in the mix too.

The general response is very favourable, with many claiming it’s their best one ever, whilst a few others feel it is a step away from Grand Tour, but still very good. A few say that they are needing more repeat plays to fully soak it up, especially the earlier trio of tracks, but I’m not picking up anyone who doesn’t like it, full stop (in the way SW’s The Future Bites divided that fan base). 

Those familiar with, and liking, the traditional BBT sound will lap it up, but those who maybe were less won over by it from previous albums, might find the sound has progressed as well and could find much to enjoy.
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^ Check out the FaceBook group - The Bath Line - 2022 Big Big Train Tour - which is an offshoot from the main BBT group. Over 50 people and I’m sure plans for get-togethers will form nearer the time. I’m on the York and Manchester ones.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2021 at 01:14
I've had 4 listens so far and enjoying it a lot.

My initial thoughts are that they are stretching out a bit without losing their core style and sound. I like the use of different vocalists on a few tracks and assume that Rikard is singing track 2 (All The Love We Can Give). It does sound like his lovely baritone judging by the Gungfly albums I own. There is also an excellent instrumental track Apollo (written by Nick) and another brilliant epic to add to their cannon Atlantic Cable (written by Greg).
Hopefully it will drag in a few new fans while retaining their hard earned gains. 
nb I've booked a ticket for Bath Forum next year 19 March. Going on my own so if anyone is going that wants to meet up for a drink let me know by pm.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote foregonillusions Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2021 at 23:46
BBT's latest opus recently dropped, and somebody already cross-posted their review to the Archives. What are your thoughts so far? To reviewers, do you anticipate a positive, middling, or negative review in these nascent days?
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