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Rick1
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We all love stories about our favourite gigs but which ones disappointed the most?
For me, the list includes Rush (Birmingham, UK) 'Power Windows' tour - (never wanted to see them again after that - or hear them), Dream Theatre at High Voltage 2011 (dull beyond belief) and Opeth at the same festival the year before (2010) - I call them 'Opeless and can't see why they are treated as a prog band... Genesis at Roundhay Park (Leeds, 1987) only just rescued the situation by playing most of side 2 of 'Wind and Wuthering' Unexpected joy?: stumbling across Gorky's Zygotic Mynci at Leeds Heineken Festival in 1996 - pure Canterbury!! A nascent Ozric Tentacles at Stonehenge 1984 and Twice Bitten supporting Pendragon mid 80s (venues forgotten)
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Psychedelic Paul
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Marillion at Rock City in Nottingham was the worst gig I've ever been to, although I was given free tickets, so I can't complain. The best gig I've ever been to was Bjorn Again (the Aussie ABBA), also at Rock City. The furthest I've ever travelled to a gig was to see Blue Oyster Cult at Birmingham Odeon (58 miles from Nottinghmam) during their "Mirrors" tour in 1980 and the loudest concert (pardon?) I've ever attended was Ozzy Osbourne at the Derby Assembly Rooms before it burnt down.
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JD
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Supertramp in Detroit mid 80's. They seem to play the songs note for note without any real passion or improvisation, Bored the livin' 5hit out of me. Good thing I had some mushrooms with me, at least the light show was fun. Followed closely by Pink Floyd at CNE stadium in Toronto. The sound was horrible, way too loud and distorted. Lastly, The Who at CNE stadium in Toronto. An October concert that for some unknown reason they played at the west end of the stadium, when the hard winds blew in off the lake (towards the band) the sound completely disappeared. Half the concert wasn't even heard. Joe Jackson opened for them and again for some unknown reason, people close to the stage didn't care for them and pelted them with empty water bottles and hotdogs apparently. They left the stage after only a short set of maybe 5 or 6 songs.
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Toy Dolls early 80's - a punk band from Sunderland, they hit song was Nellie The Elephant played at punk speed. They played a total of 3 songs of which 2 were Nellie The Elephant, gig was over in 15 minutes.
The Stranglers - Feline tour Newcastle City Hall in the 80's - they stopped playing mid gig as they didn't like the security in the aisles who were there to stop any trouble. A stand off lasted 15 minutes until the security finally left. The crowd promptly started ripping up seats and throwing them around. Completely crap. Unexpected joys Most of mine would be at festivals where I discovered loads of bands I never knew but that's a bit of a cop out. Mike Keneally Boston '14 - an unknown to me Bent Knee were the support band, became an instant fan and have seen them around 14 times since then.
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The DVD Live at Luna Park by Dream Theater's rating currently sits at 4,12 stars, with over 150 reviews. I went to one of the gigs where the concert was filmed without even knowing that they were planning on taping everything. And well... It was easily the worst gig I ever attended in my lifetime. Sound was horrible, setlist choice was dreadful, and the worst part of them all is when they broke out the string quartet and LaBrie sang two "acoustic" renditions of their tunes. It was horribly cheesy, and not in a good way. Melted plastic-y cheddar can be delicious and actually serve a purpose while it's hot and you have a bowl of nachos or anything to dip your hands into it. This was cheesy in a similar fashion to what happens in The Curse Of Monkey Island, in which you have to use molten cheddar that went cold as an unbreakable miraculous substitute material for tar to repair your washed up pirate ship. Horrible, horrible gig all around. They didn't have any cool merch around, the only availiable record on sale was a greatest hits compilation Greatest surprise? I don't really know. Maybe Magma, they were amazing when they played here, and I didn't expect such a great show. Other than that, not too many big name prog bands come down all the way to Buenos Aires, and most if not all of them delivered in spades when it came to their concerts: Snarky Puppy, Meshuggah x2, Opeth x2, Steven Wilson x2, Focus, Yes x2, Deep Purple x3... So I'm inclined to say that the best surprise was one G3 tour gig in which Mike Portnoy unexpectedly filled in as Petrucci's drummer. I'm by no means a Dream Theater fan or anything, but it was nice seeing them both playing live.
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Hiram
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Most disappointing was Jethro Tull in 2007. The setlist wasn't bad and it was a stone's throw from where my girlfriend (now wife) lived. However, there was no Martin Barre (who was on his own solo tour if I remember right) and Ian Anderson was in a very bad mood and especially the second set seemed like everyone on stage just wanted to be finished with the show.
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A friend of mine says "If you don't see the face of god the first time you see Magma they're just not for you". Stunning experience seeing them for the first time. I had the added bonus that Thinking Plague were the band playing before them.
I'd forgotten how bad Jethro Tull (Ian Anderson & hired guns) were last time I saw them 3 (?) years ago. Thoroughly professional session musicians playing but zero spirit or heart. Ian Anderson's voice is completely shot, seeing on his tiptoes trying to get a note to come out was horrible. We walked out after 45 minutes.
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Ian
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I saw Tull on the Roots To Branches tour in Canada and, hopefully, caught Ian on a bad voice night. The band rocked but Ian was a big disappointment. He sounded close to his old self on the album. Studio trickery?
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Ian Anderson doesn't have a bad voice night. He has a bad voice quarter-century. He should have stopped singing decades ago. It is painful to listen to him sing. My face hurt from cringing every time he tried to hit notes on Aqualung or Locomotive Breath.
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Logan
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Most disappointing gig: Magma live in Vancouver some years ago at a club.
It wasn't expensive and I'm still glad I went, and I got to be right by the stage (but tried to be far from the speakers). The venue had a poor sound system, there was a long opening narrative by someone who introduced the band about how spiritual Magma's music is and about understanding it, where I thought, "You're taking it far too seriously". The setlist I didn't like much, not that adventurous, and it was far too rock and not jazzy enough for me. Worst, it was totally unnecessarily loud. Really loud, and the subtle bits that often make music special did not come across (it sounded all flat, very loud and very flat). I got worried when I saw they were selling ear plugs. Magma should have followed it up with a performance by Swans called Soundtracks For the Deaf, because that's how I was after the concert. Shame, I've seen and heard lots of Magma concert footage that I love. Maybe my expectations were too high. I stopped listening to Magma for a long time after that. I thought, wow, I thought Magma was supposed to be fun and a bit silly, but they really take themselves very, very seriously. The other factor was that I brought my wife and I was constantly worrying about her reaction, so that made the experience worse, Maybe I'm too used to going to jazz and classical concerts to really appreciate rock concerts (although the best I ever saw was Spinal Tap, and they go to 11, well not really at the concert). And damn were they funny when talking. Totally not disappointed at all with Spinal Tap. Best surprise (not prog) was free tickets to a cello/ pipe organ concert in Osaka. Now that was a transcendental experience. I didn't need to be told how to appreciate the music or how spiritual it was, this was numinous. I was utterly enraptured. And and so nice to have a quiet audience who I think care enough about the music and are respectful to the musicians not to talk or cheer during the performance, and the acoustics were amazing. I really am a classical music concert kind of guy mostly, but that's what I was raised on. And I love jazz clubs. Edited by Logan - June 15 2021 at 12:04 |
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I saw Tull for the Crest tour in '87. He sung a bit lower, very measured but acceptable.
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I can echo the Dream Theater sentiments, their concert I went to was mixed absolutely dreadfully. If there was keyboard or bass, I didn't hear it. All incredibly muddy drums and abrasively loud guitar and vocals. Seriously, there was no reason for it to be that loud. Shame, cause they played all of Metropolis Part 2 which should've been awesome, but I just couldn't enjoy the music.
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I was quite disappointed by Knifeworld in 2015. They played together with Cleft and Vennart, but I really was there to see them. They had a quite terrible sound, very flat and saucy, with little detail to appreciate. Also the singing wasn't good. I like them a lot on their albums so would really like to see them on a better night. My first Kraan gig was one of the best ever, for the second one I had very high expectations, but they overdid the volume and left me with ear problems for days. A number of bands I love now have convinced me when seeing them live without knowing them. Strangely the first one that comes to mind is the experimental jazz trio Doran/Studer/Mangenat; I saw them on a political event in the end eighties and would never have expected this kind of stuff there. Linton Kwesi Johnson and Al Stewart were also playing and they surely did not disappoint. It should probably have made me a lifetime voter of that party.
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I once saw an absolutely stunning and surprising gig by Portuguese jazz singer Maria Joao together with a quite adventurous female guitarist with an English sounding name. They didn't have any albums together and stupidly, after not finding anything to buy in the next month or so, I even forgot the guitarist's name. I have some stuff by Maria Joao and she's generally very good, but I have never found any recording of the kind of thing that they played on that evening.
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I flew over in '17 to see Knifeworld, Admirals Hard, Guapo & Spratley's Japs. Knifeworld were acoustic at the Islington. Superb gig, one of my absolute highlights. The whole weekend was a hoot.
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So far, disappointing gigs have oddly coincided with my interest in
those bands declining, as was the case with a Rush performance in 2013
which was mostly just show with the band just playing straight-ahead
versions of their songs and not really letting themselves loose, a Roger
Waters performance of The Wall in the same year where I sat in between a
bunch of drunk idiots all the way in the back row of a giant football
stadium, and a Camel performance in 2019 with sub-par acoustics and a
disappointing setlist. On the other hand, I was afraid the same thing
would occur to me before going to a Soft Machine concert in 2018 but I
went ahead anyway realizing I might never get a chance to see them
again: they ended up playing a vigorous show that totally outdid my
wildest expectations and made the album they were promoting at the time
seem really tame in comparison.
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Hah, I saw both Camel and Soft Machine in 2018 and loved both their performances to pieces. Soft Machine of course wins on new material.
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Styx and Yes in 2011. Styx were great but Yes were pretty lame that night. Benoit David was the singer and he just didn't do that good of a job. Their performance was rather lackluster anyway. I was pretty disappointed.
I heard a story about a well known late 80's pop singer who played at a high school in a town I lived in for a little while. Apparently he did one song then right as he was about to do another he told the crowd to ignore what the principal or whoever said and stand up and act a bit unruly. The lights when on after that(or maybe during). I wasn't there and I'm glad. Can you imagine your high school winning a contest to see this rising star and then he shows up at your school and plays one maybe two songs at the most and then the principal or whoever shuts it down?
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Worst was probably Marillion at Cardiff St David's Hall on the Brave tour. Poor sound (couldn't hear Hogarth) and side on view. Hardly played anything I wanted to hear , got dragged along. Even had car problems on the way back to compound everything!
Unexpected joy? Don't do proper festivals but remember Magenta opening an indoor prog 'festival' in London just about when Seven was released. Was hooked almost immediately.
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Yes, I think a lot of bands could take a leaf out of Soft Machine's book - I saw them, for the first time ever in 2019 (Nottingham) and was blown away! They had dynamic new material and reimagined the old stuff in very creative ways...
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