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Cristi
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my nomination is a-ha - Manhattan Skyline.
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jamesbaldwin
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My nomination:
Nick Cave: The Carny
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Cristi
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we got a troll amongst us, someone voted for the letter "e", important vowel I guess...
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The Anders
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My nomination is Gnags - Slingrer ned ad Vestergade
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Lewian
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Maybe somebody wanted to check whether I (as always) forgot to allow multiple votes. This person was right and I have amended that. So it actually fulfilled a purpose, even if I don't know whether that was intended.
Edited by Lewian - February 21 2021 at 06:51 |
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Cristi
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no, I think it's mean spirited, ill-willed trolling.
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TCat
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I find it hard to decide on a nomination this time around.
Squeeze is my personal favorite among the three that I put up, but it is a bit complex and definitely needs to grow on the listener, but once it does, it's one that will show it's complexity much better. That is actually the case with that entire album "Cosi Fan Tutti Frutti", their proggiest out of their many albums.
The Glass Moon song is a bit more accessible, snappy and infectious. They are the least known of the three that I posted. But it's also more poppy out of the three. Lloyd Cole and the Commotions is one band that I thought was woefully ignored, yet Cole is quite a good songwriter and I think gets forgotten among the great songwriters mainly because he was around mostly in the 80's. "Forest Fire" is one of my favorites of his songs. Excuse all that, I'm just thinking out loud (is it out loud if I'm typing it out instead of actually saying it audibly?) Anyway, after all of that, I am going to nominate Lloyd Cole and the Commotions "Forest Fire". |
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Snicolette
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My goodness, all the way up Page Five! Here are my initial thoughts on Page Two thus far. Going a bit slower than usual, with a disruptive weekend, but will try and catch more later today.
George: The
Call “The Woods” As I’d said, I do know
and love(d) this band. Almost
progressive in feel to me, this song has a passionate vocal, instrumentation
that keeps one’s interest and thoughtful lyrics. And a walk down memory lane next up, with The
lost Boys “I Still Believe,” scene. I
used to live close enough to the Boardwalk to hear the screams of the roller
coaster riders, although I was across the San Lorenzo River, on the Seabright
side. Followed by “Let the Day
Begin.” I have another memory also
associated with this one, as we carried Al Gore on one of our buses during his
campaign that year. We got a special
“after hours,” tour of the White House, on a visit to DC, this was just a bit
before 9/11, when they shut down those tours.
Great rock song, I’m not naturally as attracted to upbeat songs, but
this one is just infectious as all heck.
EBN/OZN “AEIOU Sometimes Y”
Squeegly bass and synths, with a rap tale of an almost-achieved
one-night stand and a bit of a class session on languages and
communication. Funny the guy kinda
reminded of DLR in the video, another “Hot For Teacher,” sort of setup,
lol. Followed by them again, with “Bag
Lady (I Wonder)” This one is a more
socially conscious effort, the instrumentation and general sound is similar to
the previous, although actually singing, instead of talking through
lyrics. Much prefer this. The song in another setting could still be
released today, sadly. And yes! I recognized Imogene Coca, hadn’t read that
yet, before I started up the video.
suitkees: Nena “Satellitenstadt“ I do remember the huge hit, of course, but never really heard anything else by them. Synth pop with some tasty guitar accents. A march-like cadence to the piece with a sort of almost mechanical-yet-human vocal, which makes sense to me, being about a satellite. Cold kind of feeling to the tune, lots of 80’s music had this sort of ambience. Very representative of the era. Het Goede Doel “België (Is er leven op Pluto”) Bouncy synth, percussion and bass start to the piece. The verses are spoken, the choruses sung by a lilting male voice. The lyrics I find funny, esp regarding America (it doesn’t exist, lol!) Iets van gevoel (Something of a Feeling)” this one has a much heavier feel (as it should, from the lyrics). The keys almost create a bagpipe sound and the bass is very heavy-handed. This one has the vocalist speaking the words. The chorus is again sung. There are some really nice touches about half-way through, ear-catching glassy sounds on keys and reverb-y sounding something, that I can’t quite touch on. Sad song, poor guy Cutting Crew. “The Scattering” Pleasant vocalist, singing of when things were different, there are bass and guitars, and slightly, in the background, a bagpipe kind of sound, probably done on keys. Pretty, nostalgic song. The Anders: Kliché “Militskvinder” They waste no time in getting started here. Group-sing and steady beat of the band behind it, with a sort of lead played on a keyboard. Reminds me of some early 60’s music, with the chorus. I am not sure if they approve or not. Gnags “Slingrer ned ad Vestergade” This one also is very new wave sounding to me. An ironic (again) tone in his voice, indeed, he does seem to be critical of the attempted sunniness of the past, growing their gardens and now everything is asphalted and the people of the past don’t understand how the world has changed. Bouncy, steady beat with percussion and keys moving the song along it’s way down that street. Sneakers “Efter festen” This one is very different indeed, than the previous two. Solo piano begins, with a pretty, pretty female lead vocalist. Reminiscent to me of Laura Nyro, I like this one a lot. Lovely ballad, and beautifully played. Tancos: Boiled in Lead “The Microorganism” Begins with some twangy guitar and a single male singing, then fiddles join in. The accompaniment fades to the background during the verses, then swells with the choruses and includes bagpipes sound as well as the fiddles. This is really such fun, this had totally passed me by, even though I love this kind of music. Thank you! Rare Air: “Dee Dee Diddley Bop” Here we start with pipes (bombardes?) will have to look these guys up for that. Also acoustic guitars, bass and percussion. The bombarde drops down into a solo (yes, looked it up to see if they had bombardes), joined with some very subtle strings, with shimmerings of guitar joining in. Back to the main portion of the song to finish out on a repeat of the melody. Another new one to me and another thank-you! Don Ross “Ginger An Fred” An obviously excellent acoustic guitarist starts this one, another I haven’t heard of, have no idea how all three of these escaped me in those days. I guess you just can’t have ears everywhere. Really gorgeous acoustic guitar piece. None of these were “typical” 80’s, but, just like prog, other music kept right on going, no matter what was mainstream. Very well done, indeed! Lorenzo: Nick Cave “The Carny” This one starts out with a dark, ominous, slightly jarring keyboard (and gets more jarring) and vibes or xylophone, emulating a circus theme, which is, of course, entirely appropriate. I know of Nick Cave by name, but really only recently have I started to hear his music, with his fantastic “Ghosteen,” release. Absolutely love this, too. A dark circus story, chillingly delicious. U2 “I Still Haven’t Found What I’m Looking For” Very familiar with this, of course. We carried them on our buses several times,
so got to see them live, as well. I know
some people love to hate them (now), but they were pretty unstoppable in their
time. I do like the band, especially
certain songs, of which this is one.
Suzanne Vega: “The Queen and the
Soldier” This one I’ve also heard
before, I do enjoy her music and this is a great allegorical tune, very spare
production with a message. Mike: Squeeze “Last Time Forever” Almost a capella beginning, with just voices and drums, then bass and shimmery keys come in with a voice over, and a scream….moves into sprightly piano, slightly akimbo. Lots of dynamics here, with a smooth smooth (and I meant that repeated, it’s super-smooth) and soulful lead male vocal. Keeps it’s upbeat tone throughout, even though he’s said goodbye for the last time…..hope he means it, not good if you have to keep saying goodbye to someone. The slipping and sliding horns etc keep up the interest on this one. Glass Moon “Killer At 25” Begins with maybe mandolins, a clear male vocalist, keys and guitar underscore another sort of marching-along-song. A singer/songwriter with rock band behind him, I would venture to guess. Wonky in a good way, guitar lead in the middle. Lloyd Cole & the Commotions “Forest Fire” A bit wistful of a song, straight-forward rock/singer/songwriter with a spare band backing him. Touches of keys come in, underneath and a rich and full-sounding lead guitar close out the song. Scott: Bitter Sweet Alley “Time to Move” Fun idea to go local! The video/sound on this one is just fine. Young rock band with catchy lyrics and good sound, overall. Clear vocals with nice doubling up on vocals here and there. Very good guitar playing, nice tight band. Definitely a mid-western vibe here, with a sort of pop sensibility. I could easily have seen them making the circuit in Hollywood at the time. They’re a little poppier than most of the hair bands, but that might appeal a lot as a “gateway,” band to metal for the slightly younger set. Seduce: “Crash Landing” This one is much harder-edged, I see they were signed to IRS/MCA. They come out of the gate, swinging, with full band and vocals as usual for this style, pyrotechnic-style lead in about the middle…another I could see making the rounds of Hollywood in the hair band era. The Almighty Strut “Undercover” Another harder-edged band, from the same era and bag of tricks as the previous band. Very capable act of this nature, with attitude. Halloween “Trick or Treat” Another set of hard rockers, pulling no punches right from the start, with a bit of glam makeup and costuming thrown in for good measure. I think I prefer the first one, but that could just be as I’m not as big a fan of this overall, heard and seen plenty of it. But they were all excellent at what they did, even though it’s not my cup of tea. Edited by Snicolette - February 21 2021 at 12:59 |
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The Anders
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Thanks a lot for your words. I don't think Kliché looked much to the early 60's for inspiration. Their sources of inspiration were more likely David Bowie, Kraftwerk, Roxy Music and things like that. Their performances were very conceptual, for instance they usually performed with neon lights, and sometimes in white boiler suits.
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Lewian
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Some more brief comments. I know many of these (good music was a
life changing discovery and I listened to a lot of stuff when I made
this discovery around 1980). The Shadowyzard plays some proper charts
pop stuff. I know all of these (I knew what was selling in the eighties)
but not many caught my interest. The thing about IOU is that although I
didn't hear it that often (and it was surely not my cup of tea), I
remembered pretty much 100% of it just seeing the song title on the
video. That's something, isn't it? The Passions & Bauhaus -
well, I like the approach, but I can't find some of that inexplicable
magic in them that speaks to me personally. Same with The Call, The Dead
Kennedys, Squeeze (the full length version is indeed much superior to
the one I heard first) and a few others. Phew beats these by some
distance. Was (Not Was) also belong to those that mostly pass me by. I like Zaz Turned Blue quite a bit more than the other two. Cristi
has already nominated A-Ha, and rightly so, I like a good number of
their songs including this one, I knew it already though. The others...
well, I can never explain why a few more or less mainstream pop songs
get me and others don't. I was surrounded by Simple Minds fans those
days but they never got me. I expected to like the Call much
more than EBN/OZN, although Call are the typical band "good in
principle" that never managed to make me remember their songs. EBN/OZN
on the other hand I don't remember having known back in the day. This
isn't really my style but the AEIOU song is big fun. Satellitenstadt
is indeed one of the few Nena songs that I have on my machine to this
day. Novalis' Carlo Karges had a hand in this. Iets van Gewoehl is the
first song I hadn't known before that I really like a lot. That one I
can imagine I'd have played a lot those days, had I known it. As you
apparently, I have seen the Cutting Crew live, they played together with
the Comsat Angels in Hamburg, one of my absolute favourite bands (I
haven't nominated them here because I had already used them - maybe at
some point I'll have to start recycling artists, but not yet). They were
not bad, but like the Call they play generally enjoyable music that
didn't make a lasting impression on me. Tancos:
I have a weak spot for such folky stuff. I like all three although none
of them really sticks out. I'd probably choose the Microorganism out of
these but they're really all tied. Lorenzo:
The other two ones you suggest in your first post I know well. I'm a big
Suzanne Vega fan whereas "I still haven't found..." belongs to the 90%
U2 stuff that leaves me cold. Fascinating though the Battiato song from
the eighties. Not sure yet what to make of it. I love some of his early
work. TCat: Can't decide between your three
- probably in the end Squeeze is still the winner out of yours, but
there's not much between them. All quality stuff, none that really got
me at first listen. rushfan: Yeah, nice
addition to the poll, that stuff existed as well. Not that much on my
turntable though, but on my brother's. If I had to pick one of these,
it'd be Seduce. Dr Wu: The Robyn Hitchcock one
passes me by; Graham Parker has a great sound but the song itself isn't
that interesting to my ears. Copperhead Road wins out of these three.
Love such stuff when in the right mood. (Ah, good for getting together,
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Snicolette
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Yeah, I didn't think they were influenced by that. It may be that it is the only song they did that kind of a chorus in, as well. There were a few bands who did sort of hearken back to those days, like The Bangles, who immediately come to mind, so it was a sound that was floating around that also could sound "new."
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Snicolette
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I think I am going to choose "Zaz Turned Blue," for my nomination, it's actually my favourite of theirs....I love that all of their lyrics have some oddness to them, even when it sounds like it's a straight-ahead song of one kind or another. They used lots of guest vocalists; Ozzy, Mitch Ryder, Otis Redding, Elvis Costello, and some guest players as well.
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Despite Lewian's surprise liking of EBN/OZN, my nominee is The Call "The Woods". A band a saw a couple of time live playing at clubs in San Francisco, later in their timeline than Nickie seeing them in Santa Cruz, which I am jealous of.
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Snicolette
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Just in an oddly right place at the right time, no need for jealousy!
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Snicolette
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Lorenzo, I can't view this one and the title etc don't show up to give me an idea where to look. Can you let us know the title and artist so we can find another? Thanks! Loving your story, btw |
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Continuing from where I left. Cristi Casual Affairs - "Emotional Man": Guitar with chorus effect, synthesizers and gated drums. The vocals are clearly inspired by David Bowie. I like this song a lot. Jean Beauvoir - "Missing the Young Days" contains a drumbeat typical of its time. Once again there's a lot of synth, but no chorus guitar. Not a bad song, but not something I would normally listen to. The guitar solos, like many others of the 80's is a bit over the top. But it's not without edge. But I like the first one a lot better. Night Ranger - "Love Is Standing Near" screams hair metal to me (or as we call it in Scandinavia: poodle rock). We're back to heavy guitar sound, including some guitar duets. More synths. Not really my taste to be honest, I have always found the genre very overblown, and very commercial too (I admit I quite like some songs by Def Leppard, but ssh...). A-ha I know primarily for "Take On Me". I can not recall having heard "Manhattan Skyline" before. It starts in an poppy synth universe, but the music suddenly becomes more rocky with heavy guitars. Quite an interesting song in terms of song structure. I quite like it. Simple Minds is a band I only knew by name. Here's quite a change of sound with more dry production values, except there is still chorus on the guitar. There's an echo of the late 70's with the disco-like drumbeat, and I sense a new wave inspiration too. Fine song. mathman0806 The Call - "The Woods" is clearly rooted in new wave. It has a rather dark and slightly gothic mood, especially with the vocal style. I like it. "I Still Believe": the clip is too short to give a real impression of the song, but it is obviously more dance oriented. "Let the Day Begin": I wonder if this song started the trend with music videos in forests (there are quite a lot of them). It sounds more commercial than "The Woods". Fortunately the bluesy guitar solo counterweights that, but overall the song doesn't really intrigue me. EBN/OZN: I have never heard of this band. "AEIOU Sometimes Y" begins in a very quirky way with some weird electronic sounds. There is recitation in the verse. I find the music very intriguing, even though the video clip is rather camp, and a bit creepy too. "Bag Lady" continues in the same vein video-wise, but the music is less weird, more commercial, and as such less interesting for me. suitkees Nena - "Satellitenstadt". I know "99 Luftballons" of course, but not this one. Good song that I probably have to hear again to really "get". Het Goede Doel - "België (Is er leven op Pluto)" has funky groove and a synth riff in the beginning. The lyrics are a bit corny, but not without humour ("I don't want to go to Poland, things are going too well there."). All in all it's a bit too gimmicky for my taste, but I imagine the song got some airplay in the Flemish part of Belgium. "Iets van gevoel": I like this one much better. Interesting production (especially the drumbeat) with many details, and generally a very well crafted song. Cutting Crew - "The Scattering": It's easy to hear it's from the late 80's, and I'd say it is kind of an indication that the overproduction of the 80's was beginning to fade. The sound is relatively organic. I like the song, especially the folk music parts.
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Lewian
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Let's see what nominations we already have. Mathman - The Call - "The Woods" Snicolette - Was (Not Was) - "Zaz Turned Blue" The Anders - Gnags - Slingrer ned ad Vestergade jamesbaldwin - Nick Cave - The Carny Cristi - a-ha - Manhattan Skyline suitkees - Het Goede Doel - Iets van gevoel Logan - Phew - Signal Easy Money - The Dead Kennedys - "Holiday in Cambodia" Shadowyzard - Freeez - IOU TCat - ? Dr. Wu23 - ? rushfan4 - ? Tancos - ? Lewian - ? It would be nice to have the remaining ones soon, optimally today. In case I have missed something, please tell me.
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Tancos
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Nominee: Boiled in Lead, "The Microorganism"
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TCat
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Sorry Lewian. This was buried in my last message so it probably didn't get seen with all my other blabbering going on.
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Snicolette
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Edited for space..... "poodle rock" Lots of people loved it, obviously, just laughing at the term, hadn't heard it.
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