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So here we go. I have three songs to share from the early 80's music scene in Denmark.

Kliché - Militskvinder (Militia Women), 1980
Kliché (Cliché) was formed in the late 70's by students of the art academy in Aarhus. None of them were particularly trained in music, but they had ideas from other experiences with art. They had a breakthrough at a punk festival, but they are clearly not a punk band - they more correctly belong in the new wave category. Their debut album Supertanker (1980) was groundbreaking in Denmark. Kliché's songs were minimalist and machine-like, and the lyrics were very short and concrete, typically about technology, alienation and things like that. They don't state directly what they think about things, the listener has to think for him/herself. "Militskvinder" (from Supertanker) is probably their most famous song; it has words by chairman Mao.



Gnags - Slingrer ned ad Vestergade (Reeling down West Street), 1983
I've shared a song by Gnags before (from 1979), but in the 80's they had really found their feet with a very rhythmic style. Vestergade (West Street) is a street in Aarhus (where they actually shot a music video for the song), but I guess it could also be seen as a symbol of western society more generally.



Sneakers - Efter festen (After the party), 1980
And now for something very different in a lighter and warmer mode. Sneakers were centered around the singer Sanne Salomonsen, and their sound is of course very typical of its time with elements of funk and slightly jazzy chords. It is much more about music than lyrics, but it's a very nice composition in any case.





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Snicolette: Knocked Down, Made Small. I Scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream. It didn’t knock me out, but it smacked me around a bit. Where Did Your Heart Go leaves me wondering where did my brain go? Not bad at all, just so different from my kind of fare that I have become accustomed to. As for Zaz Turned Blue, well no lame joking around with this one, I loved listening to that. Great one.

I thought it would be fun to have something a bit different from me, more straight ahead....They were very quirky, as Zaz shows, wanted to show that side of them as well as the splendid voice of Sweet Pea.

There is a Kinks song that echoes your wondering of where your brain might have gone, lol.  "Where Did the Spring Go?" is on The Great Lost Kinks album, which tries to answer this very trying question and also comes up with no clear answer.  LOL
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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Thanks Lewian. 

The 80s were great. The entirety of my teen years was in the 80s so it did have a substantial influence on who I am today (good and bad). My music listening was all over the place. A reflection that MTV started in 1981 and played a wide variety of music simply because they had to play whatever was available. New wave, synth pop, hair metal, hip hop, and so on all spent time. I can wax on and on with nostalgia (and I will).

First, for my nominee, I’ll go with this one.

The Call “The Woods”

The Call was formed in 1980 in Santa Cruz, California. One of their earliest fans was Peter Gabriel who had them open for him on his 82/83 Plays Live tour. He also had background vocals on their fourth album, Reconciled. This might be their best known album with several tracks getting rock radio airplay, including “I Still Believe (Great Design)”. This song may also be know by being covered in one of the quintessential 80’s movies, Lost Boys. Covered by saxman Tim Caputto, who can forget this scene, with background shots of the Santa Cruz Beach and Boardwalk.

The Call’s biggest hit was “Let the Day Begin” from 1989, which was later used as the official campaign song for Al Gore’s 2000 presidential run. 

The Call "Let the Day Begin"

Videos removed for space.....I almost brought forth The Call, George!  Yes, I was in Santa Cruz at that time and saw them many times.  RIP Michael Been.  Great, great band and also nostalgic for me, with the Santa Cruz connection.
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The Anders: GIven that Germany has 14 times the population of Denmark (and Denmark may have a reputation for design and literature but not exactly for music), I'm always amazed with how much variety you can come up from your country!


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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

The Anders: GIven that Germany has 14 times the population of Denmark (and Denmark may have a reputation for design and literature but not exactly for music), I'm always amazed with how much variety you can come up from your country!

Don't forget LEGO and Hans Christian Andersen!

At to music: Carl Nielsen and Niels Wilhelm Gade come to my mind immediately.


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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

The Anders: GIven that Germany has 14 times the population of Denmark (and Denmark may have a reputation for design and literature but not exactly for music), I'm always amazed with how much variety you can come up from your country!

Don't forget LEGO and Hans Christian Andersen!
 

Design and literature! Big smile
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:


Snicolette: Knocked Down, Made Small. I Scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream. It didn’t knock me out, but it smacked me around a bit. Where Did Your Heart Go leaves me wondering where did my brain go? Not bad at all, just so different from my kind of fare that I have become accustomed to. As for Zaz Turned Blue, well no lame joking around with this one, I loved listening to that. Great one.

I thought it would be fun to have something a bit different from me, more straight ahead....They were very quirky, as Zaz shows, wanted to show that side of them as well as the splendid voice of Sweet Pea.

There is a Kinks song that echoes your wondering of where your brain might have gone, lol.  "Where Did the Spring Go?" is on The Great Lost Kinks album, which tries to answer this very trying question and also comes up with no clear answer.  LOL

Poor Zaz, he turned blue and I have no idea what you were supposed to do.  

And I just listened to Where did the Spring Go and read the lyrics to boot. Thumbs Up  Sometimes I ask where did my keys go?  And it is happening more as my spring goes (my spring is a Slinky).   And the where did my teeth go reminds me that I have to see the dentist, else my teeth will soon be going in a cup by my bedside. Ah to be green and golden under the apple boughs.


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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:


Snicolette: Knocked Down, Made Small. I Scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream. It didn’t knock me out, but it smacked me around a bit. Where Did Your Heart Go leaves me wondering where did my brain go? Not bad at all, just so different from my kind of fare that I have become accustomed to. As for Zaz Turned Blue, well no lame joking around with this one, I loved listening to that. Great one.

I thought it would be fun to have something a bit different from me, more straight ahead....They were very quirky, as Zaz shows, wanted to show that side of them as well as the splendid voice of Sweet Pea.

There is a Kinks song that echoes your wondering of where your brain might have gone, lol.  "Where Did the Spring Go?" is on The Great Lost Kinks album, which tries to answer this very trying question and also comes up with no clear answer.  LOL

Poor Zaz, he turned blue and I have no idea what you were supposed to do.  

And I just listened to Where did the Spring Go and read the lyrics to boot. Thumbs Up  Sometimes I ask where did my keys go?  And it is happening more as my spring goes (my spring is a Slinky).   And the where did my teeth go reminds me that I have to see the dentist, else my teeth will soon be going in a cup by my bedside. Ah to be green and golden under the apple boughs.


 LOL  Glad you enjoyed the Kinks song.  True originals, one of my favourite non-prog bands of all time. Poor Zaz, it's so tragic!  
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Odds and ends from the Decade That Music Forgot:

Boiled in Lead:



Rare Air:



Don Ross:



Boiled in Lead is my nomination.


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^ If you have any interest in playing PC games, The Meaning of Life's one is stellar. Among my favourite games ever. Lots of scenes from the movie too. About 2 decades have passed since I played it, but I still can't forget. Hahaha.

And here I thought I was the only person in this known universe that played that zany game.  Loved it!  As great as the movie itself.

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I never thought that the 80s should be ignored.  I have a lot of favorites from the 80s.  Now I just have to decide which to use, and nothing too obvious either, of course.  

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Candidate no. 1: Nick Cave - The Carny



Candiate no. 2: U2 - I Still Havent Found What I'm Looking For (live version, included in Rattle & Hum)




Candidate no. 3: Suzanne Vega - The Queen and the Soldier









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Fehlfarben - "Hutschläger": Cool new wave sound with interesting sound effects. I guess this is what is often referred to as the 'Neue deutsche Welle'?. I like it a lot, especially the guitar. Black - "Leave Yourself Alone". I knew a little about that artist ("Everything is Coming Up Roses"), but this sounds very different. Interesting rhythmic pattern. Normally I don't fancy falsetto singing very much, but here I actually find it pretty cool. I like it, but I think I prefer the Fehlfarben song.

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Freeez - "IOU". It would be fair to say that this is very far away from my musical taste and preferences, and as such not something I can truely judge. If it wasn't for the synthpop sound, parts of the song actually made me think of "Eye of the Tiger". Modern Talking - "In 100 Years". More synthpop, this time it's rather camp to my perception, especially with his soft singing voice. Voyage Voyage continues in the synth area. The vocals sound a bit androgynous, but I guess it is a woman singing, right? Again, music like that does little for me, but tastes differ.

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The Passions - "I'm in Love with a German Film Star" is again quite new wave'ish, especially with the guitar sound and the minimalistic rhythm section. I really enjoy the music here, but I'm unsure of what to think of the lyrics. Bauhaus - "In the Flat Field" is more in the area of post punk with a gothic feel to it. I like the unpolished sound with dissonant guitars and half-speaking vocals. Phew - "Signal" is very original and by far my favourite among the first three. Very off-beat playing by practically all instruments. Dissonant and chaotic. If this is a love ballad, it must be about a very special relationship. Divinyls - "Good Die Young" I think I have heard of, but I hadn't actually heard the song. Cool number with a lot of chorus effect on the guitars and some unique vocals. The music video is a bit weird, and she has a strange charisma. But I like the song.

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I knew there was a band called Was (Not Was) - it is Don Was who later worked with the Rolling Stones, right? "Knocked Down, Made Small" is straight forward rock in a time-typical production with synths, gated drums, and a "heroic" guitar solo. Fine song, but I think the vocals are a bit too screamy for my taste. "Where Did Your Heart Go" is more funky with some soul-like vocal phrasings. A bit too monotonous perhaps. "Zaz Turned Blue" has some slightly croon-like vocals. The feel is quite melodramatic, especially with the narrative structure of the lyrics. Sadly, melodrama is not so much my taste.
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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

The Anders: GIven that Germany has 14 times the population of Denmark (and Denmark may have a reputation for design and literature but not exactly for music), I'm always amazed with how much variety you can come up from your country!

Don't forget LEGO and Hans Christian Andersen!

At to music: Carl Nielsen and Niels Wilhelm Gade come to my mind immediately.


I admire Carl Nielsen. Niels W. Gade is not what I listen to the most.
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Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

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The Passions - "I'm in Love with a German Film Star" is again quite new wave'ish, especially with the guitar sound and the minimalistic rhythm section. I really enjoy the music here, but I'm unsure of what to think of the lyrics. Bauhaus - "In the Flat Field" is more in the area of post punk with a gothic feel to it. I like the unpolished sound with dissonant guitars and half-speaking vocals. Phew - "Signal" is very original and by far my favourite among the first three. Very off-beat playing by practically all instruments. Dissonant and chaotic. If this is a love ballad, it must be about a very special relationship. Divinyls - "Good Die Young" I think I have heard of, but I hadn't actually heard the song. Cool number with a lot of chorus effect on the guitars and some unique vocals. The music video is a bit weird, and she has a strange charisma. But I like the song....

Thanks I truly enjoyed reading your post and write-ups all around. As for the lyrics of "I'm in Love with a German Film Star"  which I thought of as a bit of fluff (I don't usually pay much attention to lyrics but those could be a bit annoying at times possibly and stand out), I looked it up and saw this on wikipedia:

"The lyrics were written by the band's vocalist Barbara Gogan about Steve "Roadent" Connelly, a one-time roadie for the Clash and Sex Pistols, who had minor roles in several German films[4] and played the Joker in the 1978 miniseries Das Ding."

Das Ding, as in the sentence "Da ist ein ring an dem ding" (if I got that wrong, never mind -- it's not the first time I've used that phrase and I seem to remember being corrected before -- some people just never learn if that is the case).  I wanted a loose Valentine's Day theme.  I do speak some Japanese still since I was teaching there in the 90s), but I don't  think there's much "going on" with them.  Phew ( the singer), by the way was in the band Aunt Sally, and Can band members worked on the album (Holger Czukay and Jaki Liebezeit).  I actually love that album and suggested Phew to PA years ago  http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66985

I'm kind of glad that Phew is not in so that I can now nominate her, and that will be my nomination I think. I did mention her in another poll, but not nominated, more in passing as I recall.  It is also my favourite of my choices (leaving the best for last in the bunch) .  As for Divinyls, I was given a tape of the album that's off while in hospital by an Australian along with Echo and the Bunnymen, and I just missed  a Divinyls' concert when I went to Australia to live for a year after high school.

Oh, by-the-by, I bought that Bauhaus anthology with it for Bela Lugosi's Dead, which was a 1979 release originally, and I got to know that due to my favourite film at one time The Hunger.


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Here are my first listen thoughts up through Cristi's entries on Page 1.  As always, lots of great stuff, and even though lots of people think of the 80's as one-note, so far, this shows that was not indeed the case, even if one leaves out the wave of progressive that happened in the 80's.

Lewian:  Fehlfarben “Hutschlaeger”  Certainly has a sort of sound of some 80’s punkish music, early Talking Heads-ish, perhaps?.  The vocals are rather harsh, but suits the lyrics.  There is a rhythmic, almost jarring sort of guitar (or is it a synth) throughout, percussion adjoining it and some sproingy sounds, the piece ends abruptly.  Black “Leave Yourself Alone”  Has a nice, quirky start with guitars and synths, some cool percussion by xylophone sounding instrument or synth.  Has those 80’s drums, a male lead vocal with some pretty good range, he goes more falsetto in the chorus.  A bit of horns in the middle for interest. 

Shadowyzard:  Freeez “IOU”  Synth-y dancy- bass and that signature sound of drums of the 80’s.  High high voices, very poppy song, meant perhaps for dance clubs.  Certainly MTV-conscious with good looking people abounding and Michael Jackson style choreography.  Out of competition with Modern Talking “In 100 Years”  Again, synth heavy and more high voiced male singing.  Also MTV ready with good looks and this time, high cheekbones and long tresses on the lead singer….am I writing a music review or judging a beauty contest (laughs at myself)….No mistake, looks were very important for the MTV generation.  This one feels a bit manufactured to me.  Also out of competition, Voyage Voyage “Desireless”  Can’t tell much from the lyrics, but this one is also meant for dance clubs, with steady beat and a sensuous vocal.  Can’t tell for certain whether the singer is male or female (if the cover photo is the lead singer), but androgyny was also a big thing then.  There is a sort of sadness in the sound to me, I do like the vocals, thinking by the end, it was more certainly a female.  Followed in a bit by “Every Sperm Is Sacred” from Monty Python’s “The Meaning of Life”  Of course I’ve seen this and it’s very fun, especially with the kids grinning and bouncing along and singing angelically.  😊

Logan:  The Passions “I’m in Love with a German Film Star” Here come those drums again.  Bass and synths as well, the guitars are kind of watery and interesting, feels less poppy until the singing begins.  Which is not a criticism, the 80’s had a lot of what I considered good pop, as did the 60’s, at least from my viewpoint.  Anyway female vocalist with lots of effect on her voice, a bit nonchalant of a vibe to this, sort of observing dispassionately and commenting.  Bauhaus “In the Flat Field”  This is much more driving than the first with whanging guitars, bass rumbling along steadily with drums.  A basement sound to the recording.  Another sort of talking-singer, another side to the 80’s, with sarcastic anger songs.  I like the guitars and such, not as fond of the vocals, although I do enjoy the vehemence.  Phew “Signal”  Begins with some quirky, repetitive guitar lines and poppy giant rubber band accents, along with percussive sounds behind it all.  Very punky vocalist, not sure what the song is about, but I sure wouldn’t cross her.  Maybe she could use a cup of coffee or a Quaalude.  Or both!  The Divinyls “Good Die Young”  Lots of attitude from the female lead singer.  Kind of a synth-y rock-y feel to this. This is actually the one I like the best of yours, I do remember the band (from their US hit, “I Touch Myself”), but not this song (which predates that). 

Cristi:  Casual Affairs “Emotional Man”  This one has one of the warbling type vocalists which were heard from time to time in the 80’s.  I actually like that style, like here, when it’s coupled with a good singer, definitely high on the emotional end.  This has the signature drum sound and synths, but it’s a bit on the darker side, which I quite like.  Jean Beauvior “Missing the Young Days”  Here is someone whose vocals remind me of a hybrid of Bruce Springsteen and Prince.  The song is couched in a very 80’s synth setting, and It is very wistful and backwards looking in feel, in missing the young days.  Another singer with a passionate voice, I think I prefer the previous one to this, however.  Night Ranger “Love Is Standing Near”  Here is a more straight-forward offering, I remember this band well, but not the song in particular.  Rock with the obligatory synths of the era, this time more harder rock.  a-ha “Manhattan Skyline”  A ballad now, with the superb vocalist of this band…never heard this before.   The song begins with the known high end voice of this singer, then goes into a harder-edged vocal and harmonies.  Really interesting production as the song pivots from sublime to the edgier parts….kind of reflections of a Manhattan skyline, from the tallest heights down to the street level.  Simple Minds “Glittering Prize”  This one I remember well, quite enjoyed this band back in the day.  This one has the kind of bright and sparkly sound of the era with Jim Kerr’s emotive vocals delivering the lyrics of hope that the glitter won’t fade.



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Okay, this was tougher than I realized.  I wanted to find three songs that prove that the 80's weren't as dreadful as people think, and I ended up with so many songs that I had a hard time deciding.  I went with three that are somewhat obscure, but that were from some favorite artists of mine that I actually discovered during that decade.

Starting with one of my all-time favorite bands......

Squeeze - "Last Time Forever"  (bonus points if you can figure out what movie the sound clips sampled in the first part of the song is from)



Glass Moon - "Killer at 25"  (this is the 2nd time I've posted from this rather obscure band, but it is one I loved)



Lloyd Cole and the Commotions - "Forest Fire"  Love this extended version....



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The 80's was the decade of my teens and pretty much shaped my listening habits as I went from listening to the pop hits of the Go-Go's and Joan Jett and Foreigner, etc... to the metal hits of Quiet Riot, Twisted Sister, Motley Crue, Ratt, etc....  Most of what I listened to back then was fairly well known so I will give a couple obscurer examples of local bands in a similar vein, so they will probably have limited appeal to the group that participate in this thread. but it was the local stuff that I was listening to at the time.  Sadly, the video/sound quality isn't very good either.  









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Nice to have you back! Smile

Mike, I couldn't see the Squeeze video. Found this one:


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Lewian
Fehlfarben - "Hutschläger": Cool new wave sound with interesting sound effects. I guess this is what is often referred to as the 'Neue deutsche Welle'?. 

I think many would put them into the Neue Deutsche Welle box, and the term was used for pretty much everything in German language by new artists that came out at the time. Some have a more restricted use of it and use it for the more poppy and fun oriented stuff (much of which dreadful), and I'm not sure Fehlfarben (and others more on the post punk and more thoughtful side of things) would've been happy with that label. But straight rhythms and the punk influence at least of simplicity and transparency were strong in those years, so all the stuff  can be seen as somehow connected.

Fehlfarben are by the way active until today, with a fairly long hiatus admittedly. Although in my opinion they have never reached the quality of their first and second album (which was "33 Tage in Ketten", in my opinion their best) anymore,  they never sold out, and produce good stuff (let's say 3 stars+) to this day.


Edited by Lewian - February 17 2021 at 03:04
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