Genesis: Hentschel Years

Psychedelic Paul wrote: twosteves wrote: like Trick and Wind just about the same but voted Trick as Wind is sort of ruined by Your own special way--but maybe Wind is slightly better produced.   Your Own Special Way is the main reason I bought the Wind & Wuthering album. I like the song in my own special way.

Psychedelic Paul wrote: twosteves wrote: like Trick and Wind just about the same but voted Trick as Wind is sort of ruined by Your own special way--but maybe Wind is slightly better produced.   Your Own Special Way is the main reason I bought the Wind & Wuthering album. I like the song in my own special way.

Go far enough and you will reach,
A place where the sea runs underneath

Trick, Duke, Wind, Three.

Trick is my overall favourite Genesis album.

The 'Hentschel era' was in some ways their best IMO. As much as I love the Gabriel era, and the Lamb or Foxtrot would probably rank 2nd in my overall faves, Trick to Duke was when the band were at their most powerful and confident live. They had matured as musicians, and when they reworked the old Gabriel songs lve, they were invariably better than the orginals.

Trick is a glorious return to form following Gabriel's departure; powerful and melodic songs, with a wonderful storybook feel. 5 stars

W&W is epic and well ahead of it's time in terms of production, with just a few low points (YOSW & WG) 5 stars

ATTWT - is an excellent collection of concise but nevertheless progressive songs, again with a few relative lows, but overall excellent heartfelt melodic offerings. I have a special connection to this album as it was the first I heard. 4 stars

Duke is arguably the weakest of the 4 albums, although still with some magnificent highs. 4 stars.

A trick of the tail is my favorite Genesis album period. A long time ago it was SEBTP but opinions can and do change over time. For me "trick" is their strongest album from start to finish.

I voted for ATTW3 because i find it underrated, even underappreciated I dare say. 

Cristi wrote: I voted for ATTW3 because i find it underrated, even underappreciated I dare say.  I think Trick is the best out of those, but it's got plenty of votes already.

Cristi wrote: I voted for ATTW3 because i find it underrated, even underappreciated I dare say.  I think Trick is the best out of those, but it's got plenty of votes already.

I agree it's under appreciated. I prefer it to some of the Gabriel era albums, notably Trespass and Nursery Cryme. It's a brilliant collection of songs, with a few weak tracks here and there, which are more than made up for by Down & Out, Undertow, Burning Rope & The Lady Lies.

Earl of Mar wrote: I voted for W&W because I feel it has 3 or 4 classic genesis tracks. Earl of Mar, Vine, blood and Unquiet/ Earth are superb songs which for me, outshine anything on Trick. However saying that TOTT is a more consistent album,with no real filler but without the real standout tracks of W&W. ATTWT is a missed opportunity album for me. The band wanted to make shorter songs, which I feel constrains many of what are good songs. Songs like the lady lies sound truncated to me, they need more " space", more instrumentation. Also the album really misses Hackett's guitar. The sound is also bright heralding that 80s sound I hate. Duke to me is the last Genesis album I still play, it's not a favourite though, idont buy Genesis albums to listen to Collins latest marital problems. I would also vote for Song for all Seasons as his best work.

Burning Rope apparently started life as a longer, more epic song but Banks cut it down for the album, not wanting comparisons to One for the Vine. I wish they had recording of that full version. I take your point about some tracks feeling truncated. They were done with epics, I guess, but one more wouldn't have hurt, as a farewell to the 70's