Something incredible happened in my life

It has been a (very) long time since i wrote on PA forums. I’ve something i’m burning to share but i had to wait for a while before i can tell my story, to make sure about it. Now it’s time and it’s something not easy to explain. Ok, i’ll try to make it short. So sit confortably and take your time to read my story. It happened three months ago, in late August.

First i must explain that i’ve always been interested in various domains such as psychology (recently the Janov’s Primal theory), esoterism, spirituality, mysticism and so on.
In the recent years, i read a lot about indian spirituality and own several books from indian masters. For about ten years, i’ve been following Sadghuru, and indian « guru » who is giving a lot of teachings, freely over Internet.
I was hooked from the very begining and watched a lot of his videos over the years. I was agreing intelectualy with its speech but i didn’t tried to practice what he was preaching.

Until late August.

In August, i came accross several videos about a certain meditation technique, called « Shambhavi mudra ». It’s actually a 5000 years old « Kriya Yoga » practice. This kind of Yoga has nothing to do with the denatured Yoga practiced in the West, which is more about fitness with a hint of breathing and meditation. So forget all your pre-conceptions about Yoga.
Let’s go back to the facts. So one day, after work, i decided to try this meditation technique (i had no experience in meditation, just a little guided relaxation & sophrology). Let’s precise that i wasn’t expecting anything special and was just curious.
So i did the meditation exercise for only 5 or 7 minutes. Just after i was feeling nicely relaxed and it was promising.
But the real experience beggined the next morning. I live in the countryside in the southwest of Paris and i’ve a long bus travel every morning to reach the train station.
So i sat in the bus as usual and once i was properly installed, i looked at the view as i do every morning. Then the shock happened. I realized that the sunlight was totally different and that i was feeling extremely well. The sky was like a drawing. I instantly realized that it was the after effects of the previous day meditation. This pleasant state lasted the whole day so i was very exited when back home and was looking forward to try again « Shambhavi mudra ».
So i did it again and longer, (21 minutes session) and the after-effects got stronger and stronger in the next few days until a « climax », a state of bliss & extasy which is hard to describe.
Sometimes, i was so overwhelmed by joy and bliss, that tears came out and also laughters. Before, i was very much into pot smoking and i also did a lot of so-called « psychedelic » (natural) drugs such as mushrooms, cacti and other seeds so i’ve been through a lot of «altered » states many many times for decades. Hence my name on the forum.

The state of extasy induced by this meditation can be compared, in a way, to cannabis or mushrooms but is much more deep and powerful on another hand. Drugs are actually a poor copy of these effects but it can give you an idea.

I must also precise that the bliss state lasts the whole day after the meditation.
Like if you pop a lsd pill that would act for hours and hours. But it’s something that you can control, it’s there but when you need to work or to concentrate on something, its stays at the background.
Moreover, what’s incredible is that one is in full possession of its capacities, like never. And that’s a huge difference with drugs.


So how does it works ? There are many aspects but one of them is the pineal gland’s secretions through the sixth chakra stimulation.

Once the pineal gland begins to produce various chemicals in the system, everything is changing in the brain and the whole body, hence the tremendous effects.
The numerous effects are both physical & psychological, such as incredible energy, reduced sleep quota needed, addictions such as alcohol and pot smoking that i was suffering from for decades vanished in several weeks…and also an inner strenght towards life, no fear of dying.
So now i’m more & more into « spirituality » (sorry if it sounds pretentious), following more & more Sadghuru’s advices to get higher & higher. For example, i changed my diet and turn almost vegetarian now.
What's spirituality actually? It is to experience a dimension beyond the body & the mind.

It has been an incredible change in my life, something i wasn’t expecting to be possible but that i was longing to at the same time. The greatest gift i received in my whole life.

I’m not here to convert anyone but just to share my experience. It'll not work for everybody but it can work for a lot of people. Only thing required is the desire to experience another dimension of life.

That’s all for today…Namaskaram to you all!




Edited by oliverstoned - November 26 2020 at 11:53

I'm definitely not interested, as I'm more of a peace & tranquillity guy than high energy guy. I don't aspire such experiences as you mentioned. I sometimes astral travel though. I don't actually try to do it, it just happens several times a year. (I had practised some techniques, and it granted me that ability but it has been far less frequent in the recent years.) As a materialist, I see it as an advanced type of dreaming. Like your psyche is disconnected and you're "living" a dream. The difference is, you're fully conscious, reasonable and in control. Only the settings and some of your visions can be bizarre or very scarcely scary. Like you did, I don't want to "encourage" people to try that. Conversely, I urge people to do the research and decide for themselves. I don't want to sound ominous but I see it as a possibility to be like the K-Pax guy. Think you went some alien place, but actually lost your mind.

I'm happy for you, and hoping that it is not a vitality consuming practice. Have you any information about the people who were/have been in this for a long time? 

Anyway I'm not interested but it was an interesting read, thank you.

Shadowyzard wrote: I'm definitely not interested, as I'm more of a peace & tranquillity guy than high energy guy. I don't aspire such experiences as you mentioned. I sometimes astral travel though. I don't actually try to do it, it just happens several times a year. (I had practised some techniques, and it granted me that ability but it has been far less frequent in the recent years.) As a materialist, I see it as an advanced type of dreaming. Like your psyche is disconnected and you're "living" a dream. The difference is, you're fully conscious, reasonable and in control. Only the settings and some of your visions can be bizarre or very scarcely scary. Like you did, I don't want to "encourage" people to try that. Conversely, I urge people to do the research and decide for themselves. I don't want to sound ominous but I see it as a possibility to be like the K-Pax guy. Think you went some alien place, but actually lost your mind. I'm happy for you, and hoping that it is not a vitality consuming practice. Have you any information about the people who were/have been in this for a long time?  Anyway I'm not interested but it was an interesting read, thank you.

Can you tell more about your astral projections experiences ?

oliverstoned wrote: Thanks for your kind answers guys. What's strange to me is that there are a lot of depressed people, something like 40% of the population is under prescription drugs, and many others are just bored with life, anxious and so on... but almost no one seems to be interested by the kind of experience i m talking about. Why is it so?

oliverstoned wrote: Thanks for your kind answers guys. What's strange to me is that there are a lot of depressed people, something like 40% of the population is under prescription drugs, and many others are just bored with life, anxious and so on... but almost no one seems to be interested by the kind of experience i m talking about. Why is it so?

Edited by rogerthat - November 19 2020 at 00:51

oliverstoned wrote: Shadowyzard wrote: oliverstoned wrote: Shadowyzard wrote: I'm definitely not interested, as I'm more of a peace & tranquillity guy than high energy guy. I don't aspire such experiences as you mentioned. I sometimes astral travel though. I don't actually try to do it, it just happens several times a year. (I had practised some techniques, and it granted me that ability but it has been far less frequent in the recent years.) As a materialist, I see it as an advanced type of dreaming. Like your psyche is disconnected and you're "living" a dream. The difference is, you're fully conscious, reasonable and in control. Only the settings and some of your visions can be bizarre or very scarcely scary. Like you did, I don't want to "encourage" people to try that. Conversely, I urge people to do the research and decide for themselves. I don't want to sound ominous but I see it as a possibility to be like the K-Pax guy. Think you went some alien place, but actually lost your mind. I'm happy for you, and hoping that it is not a vitality consuming practice. Have you any information about the people who were/have been in this for a long time?  Anyway I'm not interested but it was an interesting read, thank you. Can you tell more about your astral projections experiences ? Oops. It is a very long story. I first did it about 14 years ago... At first, I tried to do that to try something completely new to me. I wasn't really believing in that. After I tried some techniques, it didn't happen. Then after some time, it began to happen by itself. As I said, it has become much rarer in the last years. I concluded that, that experience grants somebody (at least me) what you exactly need that time, and sometimes what you ask for. Being conjured up in space and travelling between the stars in an incredible speed? Yup, it happened and it was extremely fun and exhilerating. Gliding above beautiful landscapes full of colour, coupled with sensuality? Yup, it was one of the best moments of my life. I even felt the wind. Yet, once, I wished to see the most beautiful and pleasuresome place in the universe, but I was conjured up inside a place like an elevator shaft where there were floating ugly brown sofas that were opening and closing their mouths. Haha. So then, I began to be careful about my wishes. Hahahaha. It can be also something sexually satisfying or disturbing... I heard that some people use astral projection for some real purposes. I really never tried that. Like I said, I'm a materalilst. I have a broad mind, and can be convinced that I can witness a real thing in somewhere far away via this. But then again, I would only think that it would be like my mind does the maths, collects the info (like you can get from the internet, maps etc.) and some mysterious inspiration like data... Long story in short, I don't think that it is really an out of body experience. But it definitely is like your psyche is/feels like disconnected from your body for a short time. I bielive in God too and this is about experiencing the divine dimension

I think you're off topic. It's not about how you face your life with courage, it's rather that we're usually identified with our body, mind, emotions, material possessions, all things that will be lost, during life or in the death process. So we're limited with the survival process.

Yes, i told you, i m stoner than ever. Confusion, indeed, i m typing those messages from my smartphone, not easy on the tiny screen.

Hi,

lazland wrote: oliverstoned wrote: Thanks for your kind answers guys. What's strange to me is that there are a lot of depressed people, something like 40% of the population is under prescription drugs, and many others are just bored with life, anxious and so on... but almost no one seems to be interested by the kind of experience i m talking about. Why is it so? Because the vast majority of people do not wish to explore in this way. I am one of them. I like to have a few pints of ale, and I smoke cigarettes. I have never taken any mind altering drugs. I won’t even touch pot. I am relatively happy with my puny little mind just the way it is, thank you. Just like the vast majority of normal, day to day living, hard working, family raising, under the cosh human beings. You are right that there are some cultures where prescription drugs are an issue, and by this I take it to mean antidepressants. The latest figures from the UK show that 26% of the population had prescription drugs last year. Of these, 17% were on antidepressants, so the 40% you quote sounds to me like one of Friede’s statistics, i.e. a tad overblown. It is here more like 4% of the populace. Of the remaining 96%, an even smaller proportion will be hooking tabs, injecting junk, or snorting coke up their hooters, although the proportion of those regularly smoking dope will be a lot higher. I believe in God. My wife practices Reiki healing techniques, and both of us are very interested in the spiritual side of both ourselves and wider humanity. Being rather dull, though, neither of us feel the need to get off of our trolleys in order to do so. Very boring, I know. I did read your original post, but chose not to respond, because I have very little interest or sympathy in such matters. Without wishing to come across as po-faced or judgmental, I personally find the need to get off of one’s head constantly pretty weak and pathetic. However, being the freedom loving chap I am, whatever floats your boat is my motto.