Prototypes of Prog

Steve, definitely Brian is not "cool", but he's a musical genius: should not that be the point? I saw Robert Fripp once, playing live with Crimson: the guy came in through the public entrance, walk to the stage shaking hands, sat in his chair at the rear, and blew everybody's head with the first riff.
Nothing cool, all about music, 100 per cent prog.

Everyone of us decides in the inner tribunal of conscience, we are only feeding it with... suggestions, just for the sake of not missing something important. I, for instance, am thinking in giving a try to Nice & Family. And here I left another outrageous one: "Funeral For A Friend" is a nice symphonic piece, and I've found Elton listed among the Symphonic-Rock icons of the Seventies.

Prototypes of Prog are many and varied, but Psychedelia was a significant lead into it. Simon Dupree and The Big Sound - Kites is a good example from '66. (Even though the Shulman's grew to hate it!!)

We now decide retrospectively who is who in Prog, but each seed sown in time was irreplaceable (THAT is positive!). Carving in the psychedelic vein, any sensible person should find "In A Gadda Da Vida" at least interesting, even when Iron Butterfly, as a whole, is a less substantial issue.

Maybe I've underestimated them? So much to listen and re-listen, so much music to be given an opportunity. The Moodies are OK too, besides "Days Of ..." I don't see the reason to stop until "The Present", to say the least

Well, the cover itself summons to humble contemplation: a classic

dr wu23 wrote: Steve and Crimson...you two do know that The Moody Blues are lited under crossover prog...right? But 12 Dreams- Spirit...,my selection...is listed under the proto prog section...take that you misfits! http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=37 proto prog page  btw.... Iron Butterfly is there and so is Touch.

Ah, but as the Stones once sang, time is on my side. The first true prog album, KC's ItCotCK was released in 1969. Days of Future Passed was released in 1967. We must do the math ourselves to determine what is truly proto prog. And numbers don't lie. As trump is finding out.

Aside the music, is mumbo-jumbo like "In A Gadda Da Vida" welcomed in Prog universe?

Wow, that was fast & categoric. I don't know why, but I expected some debate. I'll take it, anyway: what would have become of Genesis without a Unifaun?
Retaking the original thread, there's a good amount of prototypic material within the Crosby, Stills, etc. saga. Somebody mentioned "Judy Blue Eyes", and I think that Crosby & Nash' "To The Last Whale" would perfectly fit into (an hypothetic alternative compiling of) Yes' "Tormato": listen to the vocal harmonies, but also the melodic content. Parallel world prog?

someone_else wrote: A Crimson Mellotron wrote: SteveG wrote: This! A prototypical concept album rather than a prototypical prog album.

I'm sure that members of mellotron centric KC and orchestral centric Renaissance would differ with you.

Edited by SteveG - November 14 2020 at 12:25