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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43213 |
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One of the obvious pros of going solo is, an artist is free to realise their artistic vision without the constraints of being in a band, but one of the cons is, an artist's solo albums might not receive the recognition they truly deserve, and may be met by The Wall of indifference in The Final Cut. I have High Hopes that this thread will go some way to change that by featuring some of Roger Waters lesser-known songs over the last fifty years, starting by going all the way back to 1970.
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617 |
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Let me know when you actually get to the Pros And Cons album.
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Which was, apparently, going to a Pink Floyd album until it all went pear-shaped. 'Amused to Death' is head and shoulders above anything else in his solo canon, I reckon.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43213 |
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That would be right about now at 5:01am. ![]() The title track and my favourite song from the album. |
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A Crimson Mellotron ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2020 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Status: Offline Points: 5561 |
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Enjoyable album, it is not on par with the Floyd classics but I think he did a great job with the concept and the songwriting.
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Amused To Death and ITTLWRW? stand out to me and are enjoyable albums.
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Hi, Disgraceful ... that you would ignore the best song in there ... "Our Song" ... making all the others sound silly and shmoozy! ![]() ![]() ![]() Edited by moshkito - November 10 2020 at 07:29 |
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Hi, "Amused to Death" is (for me) his best solo album. It has a lot more material that anyone can select and play within a rock show. After that, I would select "Radio Kaos", solely because it is true and right on, even if it was just a thing about Jim Ladd and some of his adventures in LA the most famous of which was the night that the number 1 FM Rock station disappeared only to become a new wave station 5 minutes later ... nothing was ever said, meaning that many folks got a pay out to say nothing, and life continued and in a place like LA with so many incendiary bands and stuff ... no one gave a damn. That makes "Radio Kaos" way more important, but in the end it signified the end of "FM Radio's" importance and how some corporate folks thought about the whole thing ... they didn't care about the music or the work that had been done into getting into number 1. So when you hear ... "radio waste" ... you know what it means, but the funny/weird thing is that RW never said anything about the BBC, which was worse than the American c**terpart corporations, who at least ... (big fisting deal!!!) had an hour or two per week ... let's see 24x7 equals and they only play one of two hours? I have not heard, in its entirety, the last album and won't comment on it until I listen to it. But, honestly, I have not gotten the CD's of a couple of the albums, because there are a lot more things I want to get that are way more interesting than RW ... and another version of The Wall ... not even for toilet paper, thank you!
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It is a decent album, even though the first 31 minutes are a somewhat dragging waltz. Radio KAOS is slightly better, but Amused to Death is obviously his best work. I find his last album also rather enjoyable.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43213 |
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Overall, I'd choose In the Flesh (2000) as my favourite Roger Waters album. ![]() |
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45580 |
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the live album?
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"Is This the World We Really Want" has passed under my radar, so it is one yet to explore... I've always liked The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking and listen to it regularly in my car, but I think indeed that Amused to Death is his best. I'm less impressed by his (or PFs) soundtrack work.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43213 |
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Yes, it's a live album and it's one of the best concerts I've ever seen, having watched it again this afternoon. ![]() I wasn't sure if I'm still allowed to post the full concert here, so I've provided the YouTube link instead.
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most of that live album is Pink Floyd, so I wouldn't mention it as relevant Roger Waters solo.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43213 |
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That's true, although the concert doesn't feature any other members of Pink Floyd in the flesh.
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45580 |
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the live album? [/QUOTE]
Yes, it's a live album and it's one of the best concerts I've ever seen, having watched it again this afternoon. ![]() I wasn't sure if I'm still allowed to post the full concert here, so I've provided the YouTube link instead.
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![]() most of that live album is Pink Floyd, so I wouldn't mention it as relevant Roger Waters solo. [/QUOTE]
![]() That's true, although the concert doesn't feature any other members of Pink Floyd in the flesh. [/QUOTE]
![]() it's just Roger(and his band) doing Floyd and some of his solo work, but PF music dominates. ![]() Edited by Cristi - November 10 2020 at 12:42 |
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43213 |
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Are you serious!?? "Our Song" is just a collection of silly noises - sounding like someone with indigestion - and not really a song at all.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43213 |
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I don't know about you, but I've always considered The Wall and The Final Cut to be Roger Waters solo projects anyway, and not collaborative Pink Floyd albums.
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45580 |
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even on the Wall, Gilmour and Ezrin arranged a few things. Waters has got 4 good albums, you can't just disregard them like that...
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lazland ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 28 2008 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 13785 |
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The piece of work which became Pros and Cons was presented to the rest of the band alongside demos of The Wall. The latter was preferred over the former. Waters then went on to overwhelmingly make The Final Cut and then only recorded Pros and Cons as a solo piece after he left Floyd. Pros and Cons was never going to be a Floyd album once The Wall was decided upon as the album in 1979.
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