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Poll Question: Which three?
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The Cure one is ridiculous while being cleverly done in its way. Most shreds are just plain silly. But if one like Lorenzo finds the Cure one too elegant, then others might appeal more as most are inelegant. Shreds can get old very fast. If I were to do a shred, I'd want tit to be plausible to those who don't know the original (or perhaps the band singer well), and then they might have a "hang on, that's odd" effect. Good enough that it might fool some into thinking that is the real version. I love many movie trailer remakes, some which might fool some people.



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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette<br><div><br></div><div>I actually have taken notes on everything so far, to help me keep my thoughts straight.  Here is the part about that particular piece.  <span style=font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;>And
Subway to Sally, “Das Messer,” this could almost have been in the catchy poll,
I liked the sort of bombarde sound going on during the piece (bombardes being those
horn thingies [my ultra technical term Snicolette

I actually have taken notes on everything so far, to help me keep my thoughts straight.  Here is the part about that particular piece.  And Subway to Sally, “Das Messer,” this could almost have been in the catchy poll, I liked the sort of bombarde sound going on during the piece (bombardes being those horn thingies [my ultra technical term wrote:

in Alan Stivell’s music).  Reading the lyrics, interesting that it is a piece about a love/hate relationship (at least to my understanding).  

Thanks. Hmmm, not sure but it seems you have no concerns regarding its appropriateness for the poll.
I like your top three split idea, by the way (although chances are I won't do it like that).
   I think "guilty pleasure," is somewhat subjective, so if you found it appropriate, then it is so.
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This one took some doing.  I was going to not go into each thing this time, just a top three and why and contenders.  But.  There is so much here that needed special notice without replying/quoting each, I found this easier this time.  The Top Three will actually be equals, since I am entering my favourite novelty piece, favourite “serious,” piece and one for what caused me the most pain (and only the primary selections of the contributors).   My feelings will not be hurt if you don’t want to read this, either.  😊

George:  Great idea for a poll!  Congrats!  Plasmatics, gets lots of points for a wild gal with a Mohawk haircut, riding on top of a (school)bus, crashing through a bunch of TVs.  😊  Donna Lewis:  There are songs that I can recall that really bring back a specific time and place (a Foreigner song comes to mind, for me here, “Waiting for a Girl Like You”, which played constantly in the FEMA office I worked in, in 1982 after the big mudslides in Santa Cruz.  Can’t say I liked it, but it takes me right back there and to the nice people I worked with.  FEMA was a different animal then).  Batang’s “Thunderstruck,” was a lot of fun, I like novelty songs, too, and takes on other’s material.  BTW, when I heard “The Raging Horse,” you beat me to posting that Mr Ed clip.  Priceless.  😊  Kiss, thank you for summing them up for me. 😊  Of course I know of Kiss, not really a fan.  Gene Simmons was at every. single. KNAC metal show backstage.  Never could take them seriously, although it’s certainly straight ahead, formulaic, no apologies rock.

Micky:  Graham Parsons ~ In My Hour of Darkness ~ Gram of course is legend .  I also loved The Byrds “Sweethearts of the Rodeo,” LP, which this echoes (with good reason).  Also, I had no clue you would be such a fan of The Wiggles.  😊  Hatebeak, kind of a “Lark’s Tongues,” on speed.  New Kids on the Block, another boy band of another generation than The Monkees.  Lotsa of staging, dancing, cute boys in costumes, what’s a young girl not got to love there? 

Raff:  Bronski Beat ~ Bronski Beat’s “Smalltown Boy,” (also an old fave of mine, and their version of “It Ain’t Necessarily So.”  Living in LA at the time this was played on KROQ a lot, also hits nostalgic notes for me.   I also know Foreigner and “Urgent,” even though I am not a fan of Arena Rock per se, it’s still a great song in it’s genre.  David Lee Roth, what a ham!  Not a fan of them, but what a perfect band for it’s type.

Shadowyzard:  Eyüp Hamiş - Gel Gör Beni  I just love Turkish and other Middle Eastern music, so this is a strong contender for being a winner from the get-go, if I’m using songs I like in this , (for whatever reason) with which I was previously unfamiliar.  Not as crazy about the other Turkish song, but the rhythms are good, which should be expected. 

Who would have thought the same person presenting the Turkish piece would also bring Baby Shark and Construction Vehicles for Kids to the table?  Cute as heck.  Loved The Raging Horse, too.  And I am also familiar with the Mr Ed song, one of my faves for novelty songs, ever.  Extra points to George, for knowing it!  😊

And then you had to add the piece de resistance,  “Yes, I Am A Barbie,” by Nanowar of Steel.  I am consumed by hysterics.  Just a wonderful bit of I’m not sure what, but I love it!  Nothing exists after this brilliance.  :D  Gregorian Christmas, very beautiful, and I too, loved the story of The Little Match Girl.   Not sure if you know of Edward Gorey, but you might enjoy his takes on tragic Victorian children’s lit (warning, very dark humour).

Easy Money:  Aha ~ Take On Me….of course I know this one….When I worked at a Whole Foods in Nashville for 3 years every time this came on the house music, you could hear everybody in the place, joining in the chorus.  Most were godawful, but there are some good pipes in Nashville and sometimes you could hear some people hitting those high notes.  I had to attend  a Lynyrd Skynyrd show while carrying them on our buses when I lived outside of Denver, once.  Scary.  Journey, another one that is Arena Rock that I don’t mind hearing, but never owned anything by, who had to, with radio?  Great voice, Steve Perry, and I understand he’s a nice guy.  Conway Twitty….brings me back to my Mendocino days when I’d befriended my neighbour’s daughter of an ex rodeo rider.  I was 10 at the time.  We rode horses all over the dunes and beaches and back into some of the most magical forested dirt roads, imaginable.  One of them led to a truly iconically Western ranch, several thousand acres with large sparkling creek and sprawling ranch home tucked up in the valley just under redwood forested hills.

I introduced my friend and her brothers to The Beatles, and they introduced me to country music.  Excellent choice.

Grumpyprogfan:  Fan already of Joe Jackson and They Might Be Giants here.  The Dogs Die In Hot Cars is kind of an earworm.  Had me laughing, too    Way familiar with Weird Al, in fact, just love his song parodies, one of my favourite odd subgenres (and awakened in me from MAD Magazine, which used to do these, but in cartoon panels).  He’s just a wonderful parodist and a fine musician.

Lorenzo:  Fun, silly song, DARIO FO & ENZO JANNACCI: HO VISTO UN RE Makes me think of Sid Caesar, the classic comedian, if you’re familiar.The second, CORO DEI POMPIERI FROM THE MOTION PICTURE "ALTRIMENTI CI ARRABBIAMO",  had me laughing, too, kind of like Alvin and the Chipmunks with some deep voices thrown in. I Gufi - La Balilla  Even though I can’t understand the words, the humour is there.  Both of the Amanda Lear pieces, pure cheese and kinda kitchy.  😊  Goran Bregovich: O Bella Ciao.  I liked this one more than the rest in these selections, especially the slow parts.

Greg:  Clouds Across The Moon ~ RAH Band:  You hit the nail on the head, cheesy yet charming.  And Subway to Sally, “Das Messer,” this could almost have been in the catchy poll, I liked the sort of bombarde sound going on during the piece (bombardes being those horn thingies [my ultra technical term] in Alan Stivell’s music).  Reading the lyrics, interesting that it is a piece about a love/hate relationship (at least to my understanding).  The Karat piece, I don’t understand the language, but it Is a pretty ballad sounding thing to my ears. 

Mike, love Squirrel Nut Zippers!  Such a fun novelty act.  Completely had forgotten about them.  Might give Barbie a run for her money.  Particle Man, so funny!  And SoaD……Those guys have too much energy!  Good thing they have this outlet 😊 (my friend that I live with adores this band).  Can we have a Top 6?

RushFan4 ~ I remember Samantha Fox, but not this song.  And also the Paula Abdul and Twisted Sister selections.   All three are kind of cartoon-y, teen-boy-centric to me (which is how hair bands appear to me), and very MTV-friendly, of course.  Maybe it was because I was living near the Hollywood area at that time.  Which is not to denigrate your taste, they actually fit into the idea, for me, of guilty pleasures. 

Dr Wu ~  Very familiar with all three of these, I often see music from you that I enjoy and that was part of what was being played about.  The Go Gos were fun, I kind of preferred The Bangles (they might have worked as a guilty pleasure, these days, for me).  All those women bands were being stalked by Kim Fowley when I was shopping a female-fronted synth-rock band, including “my” singer, back in the 80’s.  Robert Palmer….really nice guy and what a fantastic video that was, and song.  And I loved that Dr Hook really DID finally get on the cover of The Rolling Stone, after all.  Poetic justice.

I prophesy disaster ~ The Osmonds….I just can’t…..Too squeaky-clean for me, even though my own entrant is The Monkees.  Nik Kershaw, I remember from KROQ, 80’s rock radio in LA.  I liked a fair amount of this kind of music, even had a synth band that I represented. 

Meltdowner ~ lena d’Agua & atlantida Reminds me of Nena, poppy and upbeat, but in a kind of quirky way.  I could see this becoming an earworm.  Let’s see if it does in the next couple of days here.

Logan ~ The Shaggs.  Definitely wonderful comedic act.  The infamous “Barbarella!”  Absolutely a treasure to keep forever.  This one could certainly be in a Top 3, kinda cheesy.  The visuals go along with all of the Herb Alpert and Tijuana Brass LP covers.  I certainly remember Bauhaus, another played on KROQ in LA.  Always reminded me of Lou Reed/Velvet Underground vibe.  The Cure one is wonderful, actually like the band from back in the day and had no idea either, that these Shreds are a “thing.” The A-ha one is also intriguing, but I am not really fan, so perhaps less enjoyable to my ears. 

The Anders ~ Pot Band.   Definitely a strange one, maybe they’ve indulged a bit too much and have entered what my old friend, Andy, used to call “The Balloon Stage,” of cannabis high.  Not sure what to call it, but it sounds like they had fun.

Gentle and Giant ~ Sique Sique Sputnik, another KROQ radio daze memory.  Too familiar to enter into my potentials to vote, but it sure did get a heckuva lot of airplay back in the 80’s.

Cristi ~ Lana Del Rey, sort of current singer/songwriter sound to me.  I actually also kind of liked this, I could see the appeal.  A bit melancholy. The only complaint I have with it is that she has that tremolo and a baby-ish affectation to her voice that so many current singers do.  I liked the production for the piece, there was a harp.  😊

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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^ That the Cure shred is my favourite shred. Also don't like the A-ha as much, but I couldn't resist mentioning it as "Take on Me" had been mentioned (love parallelism), and to educate some on the world of Shred.

I have seen the Wiggles in concert, honestly, it was one of the best live concerts I have seen (would have been better if Greg had still been in the band), albeit not up there with seeing Spinal Tap live, but then nothing else has been. Well, other than seeing a classical pipe organ with cello concert in Osaka that was so beautiful (I was transfixed -- it was transcendent).

One I think I might have gone for is, well, any the Gonch rap from Big Babies, but I guess the "I've got a little bit of chicken and I keep it in a box" one is a particular favourite. Not really much of a guilty pleasure, but I have annoyed my family with it even if my daughter used to love it when she was small.



She was so into The Wiggles, I was more of a Big Babies guy. A somewhat WTF? BBC kids show that I think would appeal more to adults than children.

What's funny with the Shaggs is that it wasn't made as comedy, but it achieved cult status. The young girls who made the Philosophy of the World album had not been playing their instruments for long. Love the album and the lyrics, such as in the title song "Philosophy of the World". While I did major in Philosophy, I think I found this more enlightening.



"Oh, the rich people want what the poor people's got
And the poor people want what the rich people's got
And the skinny people want what the fat people's got
And the fat people want what the skinny people's got
You can never please anybody in this world..." (The Shaggs - "Philosophy of the World")

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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

I was hoping for the odd comment on my potential nomination of Subway to Sally's "Das Messer" and particularly what I wrote about it on p.3 (you don't need to listen to the song to have an opinion about this). Is it of any interest to go into this kind of thing, or should I just nominate something that is baaad but I like it, like everybody else does? (Which would point to the other two things I posted; I haven't yet decided which one, but of course it can be done if required.)

My gut feeling is that in this jungle of things people will probably not bother to read the English lyrics of "Das Messer" and think about them, so that it'd be just a nominated piece of good music that makes me feel guilty for some reason that isn't of interest, which wouldn't probably sit well in this poll. However, if anyone would like that one in the poll, I may just do it.


I am sorry, I completely missed the link to the lyrics. First thing I thought of when reading them was Oscar Wilde's The Ballad of Reading Gaol, which I believe might have been one of the sources of inspiration for this song. I did like it, though. No guilt at all!

Anyway, I've decided to nominate David Lee Roth's "Yankee Rose" as my song for this poll. The funny thing is that I had no idea until a couple of days ago (when I found the link to the official video on YouTube) that the song was about the Statue of LibertyLOL! Well, just in time for July 4Wink.


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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I definitely won't be discounting things I know well this round.

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:



I WOULD NEVER HAVE IMAGINED TO POST THREE GOLIARDIC CHOIRS HERE ON PA,

ONE TAKEN FROM A COMIC FILM WITH BUD SPENCER AND TERENCE HILL

AND THE OTHER TWO SONGS IN MILANESE DIALECT, BEING TRADITIONAL SONGS OF MILAN, OFTEN SUNG IN CABARETS.

I'M SORRY THAT YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND THE HUMORISM OF THE TEXTS BUT I HOPE THAT YOU WILL HAVE ALL THE FUN AND I EXPECT YOUR OPINIONS.


Just don;t expect an interesting or insightful opinion from me. I did check those out, but I can't yet think of what to say or how to say it.   

The song "Ho visto un re" (I've seen a king) is written and sung by Dario Fo (and Enzo Jannacci).

Dario Fo was a writer and theater actor who won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1997.

The Swedish Academy, in its citation, praised him as a writer "who emulates the jesters of the Middle Ages in scourging authority and upholding the dignity of the downtrodden".



HERE DARIO FO WITH JANNACCI AND GABER, TWO SONGWRITERS.



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Re Snicolette: Very thorough, Max needs to double your salary!
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:


What's funny with the Shaggs is that it wasn't made as comedy, but it achieved cult status. The young girls who made the Philosophy of the World album had not been playing their instruments for long. Love the album and the lyrics, such as in the title song "Philosophy of the World". While I did major in Philosophy, I think I found this more enlightening.



"Oh, the rich people want what the poor people's got
And the poor people want what the rich people's got
And the skinny people want what the fat people's got
And the fat people want what the skinny people's got
You can never please anybody in this world..." (The Shaggs - "Philosophy of the World")

Shaggs now and forever!

Greg, if you choose this song it'll got my vote!


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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:


What's funny with the Shaggs is that it wasn't made as comedy, but it achieved cult status. The young girls who made the Philosophy of the World album had not been playing their instruments for long. Love the album and the lyrics, such as in the title song "Philosophy of the World". While I did major in Philosophy, I think I found this more enlightening.



"Oh, the rich people want what the poor people's got
And the poor people want what the rich people's got
And the skinny people want what the fat people's got
And the fat people want what the skinny people's got
You can never please anybody in this world..." (The Shaggs - "Philosophy of the World")


Shaggs now and forever!

Greg, if you choose this song it'll got my vote!




Done, that will be my choice. It was initially what I was going to choose from The Shaggs, but I changed my mind just before posting.     
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Re Snicolette: Very thorough, Max needs to double your salary!
  LOL, I know, a freaking novella.  I can't imagine how people that are actually living real lives would have time to listen or remark, there were so many alternates.  
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Re Snicolette: Very thorough, Max needs to double your salary!
  LOL, I know, a freaking novella.  I can't imagine how people that are actually living real lives would have time to listen or remark, there were so many alternates.  


Max has done the math and has agreed to quadruple your salary for your contributions to PA. So very generous of Him. All praise to our glorious and benevolent sitemaster M@x. ;)

Seriously, I very much have enjoyed reading your comments in these polls, and on the forums generally. Thanks for being here. It definitely adds great worth to the forums in my books, and your presence is worth more to me than any presents Max might have offered if he had offered any (well, it would have to be a very nice present to match your presence -- a free PA tee shirt would have been nice, or even a pen).
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Re Snicolette: Very thorough, Max needs to double your salary!
  LOL, I know, a freaking novella.  I can't imagine how people that are actually living real lives would have time to listen or remark, there were so many alternates.  


Max has done the math and has agreed to quadruple your salary for your contributions to PA. So very generous of Him. All praise to our glorious and benevolent sitemaster M@x. ;)

Seriously, I very much have enjoyed reading your comments in these polls, and on the forums generally. Thanks for being here. It definitely adds great worth to the forums in my books, and your presence is worth more to me than any presents Max might have offered if he had offered any (well, it would have to be a very nice present to match your presence -- a free PA tee shirt would have been nice, or even a pen).

Awwwww, thank you, Logan.  *blush*   I, too, enjoy the discussion aspects and this is why these sets of polls are so much more interesting to me, as they are more wide-ranging than the usual ones.  Wow, where will I spend all that money?  Oh, and thank you, I hope it'll be a PA pen!  Obviously, I'm gonna run out of ink very soon, at this rate.  LOL  
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Sorry, I've definitely fallen behind on this poll and have a lot of listening to do, hopefully it's not too late.  I have been getting together the June New Release report (which I just posted btw), so hopefully I can get together a list of my favorites from this polls soon.  The scary thing is, I already know a lot of them.
 
 

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^ Any praise to Snicolette is perfectly deserved by her. Clap 

I'll be listening to the songs put here later (probably tomorrow).
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Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

^ Any praise to Snicolette is perfectly deserved by her. Clap 

I'll be listening to the songs put here later (probably tomorrow).
  *blush* again....thank you.  Don't forget to note which is your entry choice, if you haven't already.  
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I added a note as "This is my nomination. Exclamation"  to my first post. Hope this can be a proper way, haha.
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I added a note as "This is my nomination. Exclamation"  to my first post. Hope this can be a proper way, haha.


I did much the same a few minutes ago.
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I think at the end I'll go for Clouds Across the Moon by the Rah Band. Thanks raff and snicolette for feedback on "Das Messer"; I think now that this is still about the music and that I shouldn't try to get people to read translated lyrics for understanding what the issue is with that song. Who hasn't heard it yet, still do anyway. Musically it's great.

Clouds Across the Moon has all the elements of a terrible 80s disco song and yet is so charming (and it played a fun role in a relationship with a lady who is still very dear to me).   
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For instance I could've shared this one and would probably get more votes. One of my jobs is preschool teaching and I and my kids love this song; haha. 

My Italian teacher when I was still in London played this to me. I find it strangely fascinating. Apparently this was number one in Italy for seven weeks. These Romans are crazy!  Glugluglu!

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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:



For instance I could've shared this one and would probably get more votes. One of my jobs is preschool teaching and I and my kids love this song; haha. 

My Italian teacher when I was still in London played this to me. I find it strangely fascinating. Apparently this was number one in Italy for seven weeks. These Romans are crazy!  Glugluglu!



You ain't seen nothing yet... This one too was number one for a long time when it was released. The singer, BTW, is Tyrone Power's daughter:


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