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Interactive Poll # 6 - Latin America! |
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TCat 
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 Posted: June 26 2020 at 09:32 |
I really like this one Logan. Very nice.
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micky
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Posted: June 26 2020 at 10:08 |
 or handful.. or none.. no rules per se. The main change I would do is not filling the poll options immediately. No early votes and if someone either changes their mind or senses via feedback that people really like one over the other..or simply think of another.. they put that one out to be their poll option.might stimulate even more discovery, feedback and discussion.. not just over the actual choices.. but potential choices and I think that could be pretty bitchin' considering how good everyone's tastes generally are. If a blond redhead and brunette all think you are cute.. go Micky style.. don't choose one.. take all 3  then vote
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Machinemessiah
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Posted: June 26 2020 at 13:05 |
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Being aware of the non-PA rule... I know is an arch-known artist, and album, but this thread keeps bringing it to my mind; an honorary mention for Pat Metheny's Letter From Home.. it never ceases to amaze me the quality of this… the magistral blend of beautiful and interesting melodies with (latin) styles, instruments, ...and the singing also.. it all adds just the right touch to the jazz that flows seamlessly.. to make it perfectly agreeable not only to the trained ear. And Hrychu back there posted something from 'Los Jaivas - Alturas de Macchu Picchu', an album I adore and think is by far the best quality, most progressive, symphonic, conceptual, folk (...and the adjective you like!) album Latin America has ever produced (at least that I know of or guess; from Chile with total certainty.. there are other superb quality things, like 'Congreso' but not nearly as progressive/rock). The track chosen by Hrychu is doubtless the most popular of the album, and it made me think of another one in the same album that I think perhaps is the most 'latin' (if maybe not the best one or the most 'progressive', but still), 'Amor Americano'. It is almost truely a 'Fiesta de la Tirana' piece that celebrates in the far North of Chile, and is related to Bolivia too. Reading here, it has also a mining origin.. in these festivities there is a dance called 'Diablada' wherein are used these 'Devil' masks and outfit like the one you see in the album cover. Here's another idea.. maybe make 2 or 3 related polls.. in its respective categories, providing the links to each other in the respectives first posts: one for the Non-PA, another for the "out of competition" if you want (I still can't see clearly what is the criteria.. a runner-up? a track you wouldn't consider seriously.. anyway it is fun though) and an "In-PA" poll so as to be able to pick up all those afterthoughts. Edited by Machinemessiah - June 26 2020 at 20:10 |
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Posted: June 26 2020 at 13:09 |
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If I was suggesting a band on PA, I would have suggested this track which I really enjoy. It is a Tango? so might be considered Latin American influenced? Some of you have probably heard it, but I'm guessing that the "Pan Heads" might have missed it since it is a Neo/Symph related band.
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jamesbaldwin
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Posted: June 26 2020 at 13:42 |
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Other three Italian suggestive songs that I guess you don't know.
Gang: Le radici e le ali Paolo Conte: Blue Tangos Vinicio Capossela: E Allora Mambo Edited by jamesbaldwin - June 26 2020 at 14:37 |
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micky
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Posted: June 26 2020 at 21:02 |
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lots of listening to do tomorrow it seems
and... in honor of our dear Nickie whose presence has provided so much sunshine and fun in these threads... get up and dance... pool table tops are optional.. but a Lone Star in hand is f**king mandatory... God I loved Texas (and Austin!) |
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Machinemessiah
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Posted: June 26 2020 at 21:14 |
Hey.. very cool. I was unconsciously considering it for a vote, but remembered the PA bit. It seems I'm a "pan head" because I didn't know it..  far from it. Does Pan head mean somewhat of a prog/rock purist? because I pretty much am... hehe. Edited by Machinemessiah - June 26 2020 at 21:16 |
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Posted: June 26 2020 at 21:18 |
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nah man.. the pan heads dig the real far out .. wacked out music. The tuneless and talentless as I used to call it before I was enlightened and converted.... ie.. avant
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Machinemessiah
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Posted: June 26 2020 at 21:30 |
Haha funny.. it was the other extreme! Hey Micky good picks there.. the Tito Puente stuff very fun and catchy… And the Tex-Mex thing.. it sure has its vibe man.. I like country too, as a concept, though only know the most mainstream.. Edited by Machinemessiah - June 26 2020 at 21:30 |
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Posted: June 26 2020 at 21:38 |
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yeah the pan heads and traditionalist prog fans have at times... sort of butted heads here.. most of the time good natured.. but at times it hasn't been
glad you liked that stuff.. really looking forward to what you all put out. I know what I know but outside of what Raff posted.. I probably knew very very little of what others posted. |
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Posted: June 26 2020 at 22:21 |
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"Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
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micky
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Posted: June 27 2020 at 06:11 |
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of the highly caffeinated sort!! starting my listens.. and man oh man.. if Lorenzo's choice is any indication this will be as rough as week was in trying to decide. Loving this... and yeah you nailed it arrangement over lyrics any day. That was what made the De Andre/PFM albums so fricking great.
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Posted: June 27 2020 at 06:18 |
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I just entered the pre-voting stage. No bad picks at all, many good ones and two are obviously at the top of my ranking: Inti Illimani and Francesco Guccini. The #3 would be Kronos Quartet, Meta Meta, Working Week, Chicoria Sánchez or Alexandre Klinke: not an easy choice.
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Posted: June 27 2020 at 06:35 |
Now this "pan-head" bit needs some explanation
 . We owe the definition to one of our forum members (no names mentioned), who meant is as a slur against people who like the more avant-garde fringes of progressive rock. According to him, fans of RIO/Avant prog like wearing pans on their heads, and hitting them with wooden spoons to produce sounds they will then rave about. As I do like a lot lof RIO/Avant stuff, I suppose I am a panhead myself, though I am not in the habit of wearing pans on my head . A couple of fellow RIO/Avant fans have avatars or signatures that refer to this panhead stuff. |
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Posted: June 27 2020 at 06:59 |
ahhh man.. perhaps a good thing I didn't see your post before I started tossing off suggestions.. this might have been my choice... the king of themed novelty. GOD DAMN did I kill some brain cells to this album back in the day |
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Posted: June 27 2020 at 07:06 |
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GUCCINI: "SCIROCCO" my review The instrumental beginning, almost a minute, is perhaps the best part of the whole song: it begins with Tavolazzi's jazz double bass solo, then the fantastic bandoneon played by Mosalini, and a beautiful atmosphere of tango nuevo is created, that is, of tango mixed with jazz; then the melody arrives, strengthened by the acoustic guitar of Biondini (Italian-Argentine guitarist) and finally the singing of Guccini, pasty, which begins with: "Do you remember? the streets were full of that shiny Scirocco wind, which transforms an abusive reality and makes it unreal ", and then: "you, sitting at a French poet's table, with your usual face open to doubts and a routine red wine inside the glass ". In the second verse, which is amplified by Vince Tempera's piano, Guccini sings: "She arrived hurriedly, dancing in the pink of a gingham dress that wrapped her hips .... and I knew how you felt squeezed between her and that one another that you did not know how to leave, between your two children, and both moral ... " The song speaks of a man who sees his lover at the bar, while sipping red wine. They talk. How's it going? After two verses the music changes, the chorus arrives and the music rears up (and here we imagine the two tango dancers who speed up their dance and give vent to passionate steps), the music becomes faster, the percussions arrives, the bandoneon plays almost syncopated and Guccini sings: "She stood up, with a final gesture, then left without looking back, while that wind filled her with impossible memories, confusion and images", and thus the musical crescendo ends, followed by a syncopated instrumental piece (where tango dancers would change figures, and give vent to virtuosity), which brings back the melancholy atmosphere. She is gone, he was undecided between her and his wife and she left him. And in fact in the next piece, a bridge, perhaps another peak of the song, with an excellent singing, Guccini says: "he remained as someone who no longer knows what to do, still looking for a positive solution, but it is better then one day only to remember than to fall back into an always identical reality ". On these words of Guccini the musical crescendo ends, and here is the moral of the poet: better to remember that one day of farewell than to go on forever with an always identical reality, that is two women without knowing who to choose. Another instrumental detachment with Mosalini who makes virtuosity and Tavolazzi's double bass to hit like a hammer (and again, the tango dancers have the chance to do wonderful steps) and finally comes the third and last verse, melancholy: the epilogue, in which the poet sings that he does not know how the woman has adjusted his life, while the man is left alone (did his wife leave him too?) and in the evening he is attached to his red wine routinely. And away with the last instrumental piece, where there is all the poignant melancholy of the tango nuevo and describe this story, which could be a short film. |
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Posted: June 27 2020 at 07:28 |
oh I LOVE this.. as you can tell as you watch me dancing around the dining room... |
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Posted: June 27 2020 at 07:41 |
that's pretty hot man..
I always wanted to learn how to Tango.. never really had the opportunity.. I was sort of restricted by jukebox selections (usually Foghat ) in dive and biker bars....and don't think the tops of pool tables were really suitable to trying to tango anyway.. |
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Posted: June 27 2020 at 07:58 |
I know that one well. Had thought of that over Metalachi but thought they would be better know. Seen those guys live a few times back in the day and even in "disco" era when Tortelvis had left the band. I was probably one of few who liked the disco stuff, but maybe a bit too much too fuse Zep, BeeGees, Elvis vocals, and reggae: |
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Posted: June 27 2020 at 08:13 |
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you all rule..
absoltely BRUTAL.. in many cases the alts were as good as the voting options.. a couple were they were better IMO will need several listens to hammer out a top 3.. but one sort of really stood out and is pretty much the clear #1 great choice Greg.. musically.. by far the most interesting to me... that f**king ruled. otherrs of particular note in running the Guccini, Rodrigo and Gabriela, Carlos Reyes, and the Stan Getz were the tops through the first listen likely will take several more listens in full before settling on a top 3. |
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