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Snicolette 
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 Posted: June 14 2020 at 08:25 |
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I am game for whatever the rules or lack of may be.
 I enjoy the discovery and the discussion, both.
It's also given me some more insight into some of you that I see within the forums....kind of like looking at someone's music and/or book collection when you visit their home (or could before the digital age). So, yes, please. |
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micky
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Posted: June 14 2020 at 08:24 |
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single rules are in themselves the themes we have gone into.. what drew us in originally were the free form nature of the polls.
those rules/themes can come later.. like the obvious one.. modern? classic? Specific genres? For now.. f**k it..free form.. free dope, booze and free love.. and free music... whatever we want man. What is needed though to start are not rules ..but you all to set the tone via the suggestions you make. Someone is going to look mighty silly suggesting a goddmaned Genesis song in the midst of what we might be suggesting. For that perhaps it be best I take the first poll or two.. I do have a talent for dealing politely with those who miss the boat... 'ummm.. hey Bobblehead.. try again... read my f**king post and try suggesting something you think others might like that they may not know' I've learned a good life lesson first in the service.. then later running crews of workers on jobsites. It is easier to get a point across with a 2x4 ..blunt trauma ... rather than trying to us reason'. It is how I got things done here as well as a collab leading teams.
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Shadowyzard
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Posted: June 14 2020 at 07:59 |
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Sure we've always been sensible here, and no strict rules are needed, as is obvious. But a single rule wouldn't harm, if you ask me, Micky.
What you suggest is also OK. |
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micky
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Posted: June 14 2020 at 07:31 |
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actually.. I think it can be quite simple in concept and execution.
What have we been doing here.. did we need all kinds of rules.. no we didn't. Most of us caught the implied jist Lorenzo had with his first poll.. we picked up on it and didn't flood his polll or subsequent ones with stuff that probably everyone know. We generally understood that we were here to try to find stuff we may not have heard.. AND we would offer suggestions that we thought perhaps that others may not have heard. so we simply do that regarding stuff on here. What it would need to work.. is not a bunch of rules or stipulations.. it is YOU all who have been participating to start the ball rolling with the suggestions in the spirit we have generally had here. so guys (and dear ladies) start thinking them up.. I will make clear in the opening post what we are doing. Any suggestions that are deemed 'too mainsream' will.. emmm.. be ignored. I have no idea how many outside our little group here will participate... I meant what I implied earlier. This forum is a shadow of what it once was for once we had a lot of people here who really knew prog... knew the stuff outside the usual suspects.. many of those left over the years and been replaced with not fans of the music.. but fanboys of particular groups. so start thinking up some prog songs you know implicitely without haveing to have restrictions imposed upon you.. I'll start the poll once I've heard back from you all that you are on board with this.
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Lewian
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Posted: June 14 2020 at 07:28 |
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I wrote before, one possibility is max. 10 ratings on PA, or be it 20... another possibility is just to say everybody try to propose something unknown to as many as possible of the others, and everybody is only allowed to vote for things they hadn't known before, unless they know n-2 or more.
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Shadowyzard
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Posted: June 14 2020 at 07:19 |
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We may be limited to put songs that have 10.000 Youtube views or less, for instance.
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The Anders
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Posted: June 14 2020 at 07:12 |
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I wouldn't mind a prog version either, but I think it would be difficult to decide what is elegible and what is not. Clearly, such a poll would make little sense to me if we end up with songs by Pink Floyd, Genesis, King Crimson and so on, but where do we draw the line? There will be a lot of discusssions about why this and not that...
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micky
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Posted: June 14 2020 at 06:34 |
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and also why I still think a prog version of the polls we are doing here would go over well... I meant to try doing it but got caught up in trying to make right the utter DC-10 crash that was my attempt to do one of these a couple of weeks ago.
It doesn't take long here.. it just takes reading some of the comments on this forum to realize that most really don't know prog... they know only what they like and have been exposed to. ie very VERY UK centered .. and might really get into the spirit of digging some new stuff as we have with this non PA's polls. makes me also lament the days when we had audio samples on the site... made it very easy to check out musiic outside the well known and bigger names.
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micky
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Posted: June 14 2020 at 06:25 |
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^ that is a bit of a sore spot for some... like my firebrandish wife hahaha.. but I can only speak for myself and I will though I don't think Christian got me wrong here I'll be clear in my observation was not a criticism. I loved the theme he did here... outside the German broad and the Cat..this was ALL new to me.. and that is why I first came here.. and stayed here.. it is all about finding stuff you haven't heard that hits a nerve.
I mean... isn't that why we are digging these polls..
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The Anders
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Posted: June 14 2020 at 06:18 |
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As for the language restriction here, I am glad it happened. As a non-English speaker I am used to hearing music in a language other than my own, so I was kind of shocked to learn about the reluctance to listening to anything non-English from some people.
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The Anders
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Posted: June 14 2020 at 06:13 |
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I actually considered changing to an audio clip instead. I was first introduced to the song that way, but more or less chose the present clip because this was the first that came up when I searched for it.
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micky
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Posted: June 14 2020 at 05:57 |
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not as much incentive.. as opportunity...
the internet hasn't been around forever.. and most of us grew up.. and listened to music in the days of radio, mags, and word of mouth. Funny... even with years of digging Italian prog, having Raff joined with me at the hips (ummm HMMM).. I don't think I can honestly name ONE Italian non PA's related group. For the vast majority of us.. there was really no medium for us to discover music outside of our country unless one was fortunate like I suspect Nickie was to be in the industry.. and rubbing shoulders with the muscial jet set and being exposed to a whole world of great music. For most of us that took the internet.. and for the most part.. I've spend most of that on prog forums. Here and DDD before that.
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Posted: June 14 2020 at 05:55 |
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Sadly, something I learned the hard way
 . At least you have shown some willingness to learn about music in other languages than English. Personally, I'd be more tolerant of attitudes such as "if it's not in English, I cannot enjoy it" if you native speakers of English treated your own language better than you generally do. Stuff like "your" (meaning "belonging to you") spelled as "you're" really rubs me the wrong way. |
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Lewian
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Posted: June 14 2020 at 05:51 |
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Haha, to be honest, when I wrote that English native speakers have an advantage because only one language is excluded for them, I had what you wrote as a secret afterthought; probably it's actually more difficult for you because you have so much less incentive for looking for stuff in different languages.
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micky
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Posted: June 14 2020 at 05:49 |
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oh yeah indeed it is .. but what was left unsaid but obviously implied was those restrictions can hit the Yanks on this forum harder than most. We ain't exactly a fountain of multilingualism here. I suspect for many of us, and definitely has for me as my musical roots .. my true musical loves as it were are in the music of Americana. ie jazz, blues and country/bluegrass.. it wasn't easy to pick something to fit the theme as for most of us.. PA's has been the gateway to music outside of this country.
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Lewian
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Posted: June 14 2020 at 05:43 |
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I'd think that's normal even without a theme. It's a lot of listening and in the beginning lots of people are enthusiast, but being a "regular" over 5, 10, 20 issues takes much more. I wrote earlier that everything is a bit fast for my intuition, and one thought that I had was that the thing uses itself up more quickly if it's overdone, like everything. Now obviously being slower may not necessarily help if people are enthusiast to move on to the next one... anyway, main message, these things start with a lot of enthusiasm in the beginning, but duration comes from other things, like winning new blood when somebody stops etc. I am on a football forum (soccer for some of you ignorants
 ) where people started a song contest many years ago. It's still running. And you know what? It started generally and themes have become more and more restrictive over time, and finding something for which you could construct a connection somehow became big part of the fun. Now themes are not as precisely defined there as I did it here, they do something like "songs that have to do with breakfast" etc. The last one was "Virus!" and was #129! They're much slower though, they do one every month or so. Now I'm not saying that recipe is going to work here... we just have to find out.Edited by Lewian - June 14 2020 at 05:47 |
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micky
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Posted: June 14 2020 at 05:33 |
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you rock Lorenzo.. good deal. In case you didn't note.. we did lose a few regulars and semi regs with the last one. I had my own moment of horror once I realized that 99% of the stuff I know that fit the theme.. was PA's related stuff before an angel knocked me upside the head and jogged my memory. We'll do instrumentals as a theme.. and no other conditions other than the usual of not being listed on the site. If one wants to do some mainstream or not.. up to them. all in fun.. that is what matters! Cheers and I'll start it middle of next week as we have been doing.
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Lewian
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Posted: June 14 2020 at 03:45 |
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By the way...
...I exactly get what you're saying here. I have asked myself, am I somehow conned into liking this? Not sure whether I'd review this as a quality thing or rather as a Kitsch thing if I had to. But ultimately I just asked myself, in all subjectivity, how much do I want to listen to this again, and then it comes up top 3!
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jamesbaldwin
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Posted: June 13 2020 at 19:51 |
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Yes, we got a deal, a theme with no restrictions, as you prefer... or even a poll without any theme ... so you open the next one, right? That's ok for me, then I open the one on music with Latin American influences, which is a very broad theme. PS Sorry for filling the poll with messages guys! Edited by jamesbaldwin - June 13 2020 at 19:53 |
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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I agree with you on Springsteen and Morello, but it took me a long time to think so, at the beginning I was negative and many fans of Bruce older than me claim that the song was ruined by Morello's solo, because it was too virtuous and out of Bruce's music. He seems to me to be a real opera singer, with a classical approach, and here he sings a piece of opera, Pavarotti's favorite. It seems to me that he has a measured and powerful voice, and with an excellent diction in Italian. In short, I really like him, also for the timber of voice, more or less like Pavarotti. I also like Domingo, but not so much, while I don't like Carreras. I confess that after having made up my mind I saw on the net that he is in fact considered one of the best tenors of the last century and this reassured me.
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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