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Shadowyzard
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I think there's no single other person who can sing this good and has such range. When I check "the highest note" etc, I only hear crappy kettle boiling sounds. Dimash's range is very close to 7 octaves, and he is still very young. Actually he hits all those notes without strain, and his real range could be close to 8 octaves, and he might not prefer to showcase it. Or may not be "forcing" his voice lest harm be done to his vocal chords. Dimash hit a beautiful and long G8 during a live performance. F8-F#8 and a long G8. As far as I know, that is the highest in a live performance. The funny thing is that, on the internet it is said to be a D8 and even experts believe that information. No, I trust my ears and it is a VERY CLEAR G8. Here, you can watch & listen it from near the end of the video. Edited by Shadowyzard - June 12 2020 at 17:25 |
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1. Connie Dover - Ubi Caritas Beautiful vocals and harmonies. It will get my vote every time.2. The Boy & Despoinis Trixromi: Glykeia Mou Agapi Nice, stark, pensive.
3. P-Model - The Great Brain Fun and heavy, quirky the way I like it. There were a lot that were "disqualified" by me already being familiar with them, more than I originally thought possible. Again, there were some excellent suggestions.
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Lewian
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Nice to have some German language in this poll, although it was hard to not have this song blasted into your ears far too often in Germany at the time, which has killed it for me. By the way, the lyrics of this song are written by Carlo Karges, central Nena band member in the beginning, who earlier was a member of symphonic prog band Novalis on their (very good) second album. Actually I still like the odd Nena song that was not played to death, for example this one: |
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Snicolette
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Side note, there is folk song that she sings, "Where Shall I Go?" It's a cowboy's lament, he's too young for heaven in the song. My 4 year old son was listening in the car with me and he said, "Well, obviously, she's going to heaven with that voice when she dies." I wrote her a letter to tell her the story and she wrote him a sweet letter back. Nice lady.
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THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT BY A 'HUNCH'
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and rockin' a relisten here..
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TCat
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If we do instrumentals, you might want to put another qualifier in there because there are endless jazz and classical instrumentals, so it wouldn't really be that hard. You could get some interesting results if you kept it confined to more "popular" genres somehow (and of course, not listed on the archives). |
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micky
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^ reading my mind.. I had thought that as well in term of a bit of restriction. The idea inspired in part with what Nickie posted with that killer Afro stuff.. stuff a bit more outside the norms of 'western music'..
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PART 1.
1) Rokia Traore - Tuit Tuit. Excellent song, where you can hear the spirit of Africa in tribal singing and percussion but with an electric sound. Podium candidate. 2) Dimash K ... _ Very emphatic electronic music, which supports the singer, who sings as if he was in an opera by Giuseppe Verdi, but with many virtuosity, where he demonstrates his impressive vocal extension. In these cases, when you have a pop sound and a vocal performance worthy of a lyric opera, I often cannot decide whether I am dealing with an exceptional piece or a presumptuous, exaggerated, tacky, almost garbage piece. In Italy we have had recent cases with IL VOLO, where three boys sings like in an opera (in the past I remember when Pavarotti sung. with U2 and Zucchero). I don't discuss Dimash K.'s vocal abilities but in my opinion the overall effect of music + vocal performance gives a result closer to bombastic, pretentious, kitsch, that is, bad taste, rather than art. 3) The Bothy Band. A cappella singing, in reality often in unison, very fast. It doesn't warm my heart. 4) Pino Daniele - Che Te Ne fotte? Pino Daniele is respected by everyone in Italy, his music is international, taking a lot of his sound and the rhythm from the American one, especially African American, while the words and certain arrangements are Mediterranean, from southern Italy: a very original fusion music. He is an excellent guitarist and an expressive singer. I'm not a fan of his, but in general I prefer his blues songs, this one is more funky and I'm not thrilled, even if it's always pleasant and relaxing to listen to him. 5) Wagakki Band - This song seems punk, very loud, fast, with too much drum sound, but the singer 's voice is excellent and the best moments are when the very intrusive drummer stops and we can hear oriental sounds. It looks like a punk song superimposed on Japanese singing that I hear in Japanese restaurants accelerated. A curious experiment, although in my opinion the song renounces the artistic part a little to concentrate on the more commercial one. Anyway, a candidate? 6) Connie Dover - Ubi Caritas. Latin song, with celestial voice and church background. Nice atmosphere but little developed, without a crescendo, and with the background music a little blurry apart from the percussion. 7) P- Motel - The Great Brain. Cybernetic song, marked from below, reminiscent of the King Crimson of the third phase and Talking Heads, or the new wave, for the excellent rhythm, but here it is very schizoid and accelerated. Short but very successful song. It's a candidate. |
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TCat
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I have this weak spot for vocal harmonies whether they are traditional or dissonant, real or overdubbed. One of my favorite vocal bands is one that usually gets made fun of, but I've always loved The Manhattan Transfer because of their amazing use of jazz vocalizations and harmonies, both traditional and contemporary. My guilty pleasure. |
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Shadowyzard
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I won't discuss your other words, but will fiercely disagree with "pretentious". Powerful lyrics are conveyed in an impactful manner. Dimash sings some other operatic songs, and they are different. It is bombastic, yes. But it was meant to be that way. Edit: Ah sorry, bombastic (bombastik) can also carry a positive meaning in Turkish, when I checked its English meaning I decided I won't agree with that one too. Bad taste is subjective, so I won't argue that. Edited by Shadowyzard - June 12 2020 at 18:00 |
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micky
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that I had really picked up on
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Snicolette
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that I had really picked up on [/QUOTE] Awwwwww, shucks
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jamesbaldwin
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As I've written, when a pop-song is sung by an opera singer, it is often difficult for me to make a judgment. In Italy we are often very strict with the opera singers who start making pop, for example Pavarotti and Bocelli have been highly criticized. Then a few years ago the three tenors of the group Il VOLO won Sanremo, and even in that case the music critics were divided between those who appreciated them and those who cut them off. On this song, as I said, I only expressed my mpression, and it is clearly subjective and I can be wrong. To me in general the performance seems exaggerated. |
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Lewian
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Hmmm. Not sure if it has to be made "hard". Everyone will anyway propose something that is dear to them, and that should be qualification enough. Also there's lots of classical and jazz music but we haven't had that much of it in these polls yet. (Reason that I write this is that I'm already preparing, and what you wrote may kill my potential entry. Shouldn't be a problem to find another one, but...)
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Shadowyzard
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I again don't agree with your final sentence.
Dimash was invited by operas, but rejected to follow his own career within the scope of "popular music". He and Krutoy doesn't claim that this is fully an operatic piece in all classical standarts. But Dimash here sings with full operatic techniques. Let me give an example: I hate extreme metal generally. Especially grindcore. But even though they double the speed of even speed metal and I see that as sick or of bad taste, if a grindcore band conveys what they intend properly; I wouldn't call it "pretentious". I think pretentiousness, in this context, connotes that something is done exaggeratedly, and is not convincing and/or lacks integrity & soul. It can also connote that someone is "faking" that s/he is better than what his/her real qualities and capabilities are. We are all entitled to our own opinions, I respect yours, but I'll not agree with your take on this. |
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mathman0806
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I have a top two. Need a relisten, and have to decide whether it'll be a late night or a Saturday morning one. Mood might dictate number 3.
On Eartha Kitt, best Catwoman. Blows away Julie Newmar, Michelle Pfiefer, Halle Berry, Anne Hathaway, and likely Zoe Kravitz when her turn comes up next year. As a young boy, that was my first exposure to her. Loved the way she said "Purr-fect." The only song I really knew from her is her rendition of Santa Baby, which is very good, so it was nice to hear something else. That's what these polls are about. You share what you like, but get exposed to music you wouldn't normally search out on your own.
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