Interactive poll#5 - This sounds Greek to me!

Snicolette wrote:   Honourable mention to Serge Gainsbourg and Dimash K.  Serge because of the starkness and that gorgeous chorus of angels.  Dimash for such a freaking large vocal range.

I think there's no single other person who can sing this good and has such range. When I check "the highest note" etc, I only hear crappy kettle boiling sounds. Dimash's range is very close to 7 octaves, and he is still very young. Actually he hits all those notes without strain, and his real range could be close to 8 octaves, and he might not prefer to showcase it. Or may not be "forcing" his voice lest harm be done to his vocal chords.

Dimash hit a beautiful and long G8 during a live performance. F8-F#8 and a long G8. As far as I know, that is the highest in a live performance. The funny thing is that, on the internet it is said to be a D8 and even experts believe that information. No, I trust my ears and it is a VERY CLEAR G8.

Here, you can watch & listen it from near the end of the video.

rushfan4 wrote: I am admittedly not really a fan of music with non-English lyrics mainly due to my own linguistic limitations.  This is a "me" problem not a "them" problem.  I've found a few prog bands over the years like Nemo and Cast that I do like quite a bit and from time to time I do listen to the some of the better know Italian prog bands although none of them are really the classics for me like the English singing bands.  Anyhow, I suppose I will have a bit of fun with y'all and suggest this classic pop hit from my youth that I would sometime hear the English version and sometime the German version.  I don't expect too many votes for it here on this site, but my library of non-prog, non-English music is extremely limited and this is what came to mind for me.

Shadowyzard wrote: Snicolette wrote:   Honourable mention to Serge Gainsbourg and Dimash K.  Serge because of the starkness and that gorgeous chorus of angels.  Dimash for such a freaking large vocal range.  I think there's no single other person who can sing this good and has such range. When I check "the highest note" etc, I only hear crappy kettle boiling sounds. Dimash's range is very close to 7 octaves, and he is still very young. Actually he hits all those notes without strain, and his real range could be close to 8 octaves, and he might not prefer to showcase it. Or may not be "forcing" his voice lest harm be done to his vocal chords. Dimash hit a beautiful and long G8 during a live performance. F8-F#8 and a long G8. As far as I know, that is the highest in a live performance. The funny thing is that, on the internet it is said to be a D8 and even experts believe that information. No, I trust my ears and it is a VERY CLEAR G8. Here, you can watch & listen it from near the end of the video.

  Jeeze Louise, that is HIGH!  

Snicolette wrote: micky wrote: correctamondo!!!   I plan on a round of relistens this evening...  for me this round of songs followed the path of many of the others polls. The first listens are with half an ear ..looking for the one that grabs you hard and makes you say .. hell yeah!!  Every poll for me has had that one. This one was no different.  One immediately caught my ear.. and umm.. eyes..  but to seperate the rest.... which is the real fun..and reward..  I really need to listen closer. I had thought you might know her.. a hunch I had.. and a complement on your range and knowledge of music as well.      Cheers!  It helps to be really old.

micky wrote: Shadowyzard wrote: Let's make the next one with the rule "from your own country". What say you? not that I am judge nor jury.. I am more the executioner type..  My two cents?  Many of us have been doing that already. I'd try to think up another... I had offered to do the next one and that is up to Lorenzo but don't think it is a secret what I wanted to do.. the flip side of this. .and potentially a VERY interesting poll instrumentals... and of the interesting part of that comes from having to choose from non  PA's types.. a real chance to get some interesting and ear catching suggestions. Up to Lorenzo of course.. it is his BBQ.. and I am digging this cornbread man

micky wrote: Snicolette wrote: micky wrote: correctamondo!!!   I plan on a round of relistens this evening...  for me this round of songs followed the path of many of the others polls. The first listens are with half an ear ..looking for the one that grabs you hard and makes you say .. hell yeah!!  Every poll for me has had that one. This one was no different.  One immediately caught my ear.. and umm.. eyes..  but to seperate the rest.... which is the real fun..and reward..  I really need to listen closer. I had thought you might know her.. a hunch I had.. and a complement on your range and knowledge of music as well.      Cheers!  It helps to be really old.    THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT BY A 'HUNCH'

  I know, just could not resist.  I am lucky to have been around a while though and have a lot of musical curiousity and lots of great ears around me all of my life.

Snicolette wrote: TCat wrote: 1.  Connie Dover - Ubi Caritas  Beautiful vocals and harmonies.  It will get my vote every time. 2.  The Boy & Despoinis Trixromi: Glykeia Mou Agapi  Nice, stark, pensive.    3.  P-Model - The Great Brain   Fun and heavy, quirky the way I like it.   There were a lot that were "disqualified" by me already being familiar with them, more than I originally thought possible.  Again, there were some excellent suggestions.   Glad you enjoyed Connie Dover.  I think the end part where she is harmonizing with her higher vocals is just exquisite.  Side note, there is folk song that she sings, "Where Shall I Go?" It's a cowboy's lament, he's too young for heaven in the song.   My 4 year old son was listening in the car with me and he said, "Well, obviously, she's going to heaven with that voice when she dies."  I wrote her a letter to tell her the story and she wrote him a sweet letter back.  Nice lady.

Snicolette wrote: micky wrote: Snicolette wrote: micky wrote: correctamondo!!!   I plan on a round of relistens this evening...  for me this round of songs followed the path of many of the others polls. The first listens are with half an ear ..looking for the one that grabs you hard and makes you say .. hell yeah!!  Every poll for me has had that one. This one was no different.  One immediately caught my ear.. and umm.. eyes..  but to seperate the rest.... which is the real fun..and reward..  I really need to listen closer. I had thought you might know her.. a hunch I had.. and a complement on your range and knowledge of music as well.      Cheers!  It helps to be really old.    THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT BY A 'HUNCH'    I know, just could not resist.  I am lucky to have been around a while though and have a lot of musical curiousity and lots of great ears around me all of my life.

Shadowyzard wrote: jamesbaldwin wrote: I don't discuss Dimash K.'s vocal abilities but in my opinion the overall effect of music + vocal performance gives a result closer to bombastic, pretentious, kitsch, that is, bad taste, rather than art. I won't discuss your other words, but will fiercely disagree with "pretentious". Powerful lyrics are conveyed in an impactful manner. Dimash sings some other operatic songs, and they are different. It is bombastic, yes. But it was meant to be that way. Edit: Ah sorry, bombastic (bombastik) can also carry a positive meaning in Turkish, when I checked its English meaning I decided I won't agree with that one too. Bad taste is subjective, so I won't argue that.

I again don't agree with your final sentence.

Dimash was invited by operas, but rejected to follow his own career within the scope of "popular music".

He and Krutoy doesn't claim that this is fully an operatic piece in all classical standarts. But Dimash here sings with full operatic techniques.

Let me give an example: I hate extreme metal generally. Especially grindcore. But even though they double the speed of even speed metal and I see that as sick or of bad taste, if a grindcore band conveys what they intend properly; I wouldn't call it "pretentious". I think pretentiousness, in this context, connotes that something is done exaggeratedly, and is not convincing and/or lacks integrity & soul. It can also connote that someone is "faking" that s/he is better than what his/her real qualities and capabilities are.

We are all entitled to our own opinions, I respect yours, but I'll not agree with your take on this.