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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Online Points: 45909 |
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![]() yeah, they rule!
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ExittheLemming ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11420 |
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Are the Beastie Boys progressive? - are greenfly good for gardening tips? Why do you conflate what we both might like with something that is clearly incompatible with even the broadest interpretation of the PA genre definitions? Never was a poster so aptly named. Get in the sea.
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Jaketejas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 27 2018 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2188 |
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I think a nerve has been struck. We must drill down further! We have to get to the bottom of this. So where were we? Ah, yes: Rush (Roll the Bones), Beastie Boys, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Anthrax ... who else would you consider to be in a newly minted Prog Rap genre? I’m curious to see where you’re going with this, since we all clearly respect each other’s opinions here. We are just brainstorming at this point.
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BrufordFreak ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 25 2008 Location: Wisconsin Status: Online Points: 8474 |
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This expresses my sentiments well. While I do love and appreciate the Beastie Boys for their fresh innovative music--which, is, in my opinion, "progressive"--they don't really belong on PA (even though a couple of their albums make me stop and consider.)
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Jaketejas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 27 2018 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2188 |
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Imagine The Sugar Hill Gang being a forerunner to this potentially new category. And who can forget M’s Pop Muzik, which obviously inspired Rush’s Vital Signs lyrics with all the “-ate” rhymes. What about Blondie, who blended New Wave, Disco, Funk, and Hip Hop? That was quite a progressive thing to do. Are you thinking to put Blondie in there with Anthrax and company, or would she be in a sub genre? I see a lot of interesting possibilities here. The mind wanders. Comedy and Rap ... Weird Al’s White and Nerdy ... progressive “in the extreme” but different from that of Beastie Boys. What about all the rap like sounds in ELP’s Toccata Ginastera? I think it shouldn’t just be written off. I’m no expert on rap, though. Probably there are others here who are who could provide some thoughtful insights over my blatherings. Prog rap. Anyone?
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mathman0806 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2014 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6842 |
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No. No prog rap on this site. Or would that be "rap-rock fusion" like we have jazz-rock fusion (which I don't think should necessarily be a sub-genre of prog rock but that's another discussion).
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19032 |
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Technically that might be true but the Beastie Boys first album was 1986 while RHCP's first was in 1984.
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Jaketejas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 27 2018 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2188 |
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So ... what is the consensus? Another dimension?
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miamiscot ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 23 2014 Location: Ohio Status: Offline Points: 3630 |
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I love the Beastie Boys. A lot. They were more Punk than Prog though...
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The Prog Corner
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Tapfret ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 12 2007 Location: Bryant, Wa Status: Offline Points: 8631 |
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1986 may have been the first LP. But they had hardcore EP's dating back to 1982. First Def jam EP was 84. No RHCP material pre-dates that.
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siLLy puPPy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() PSIKE, JRF/Canterbury, P Metal, Eclectic Joined: October 05 2013 Location: SFcaUsA Status: Offline Points: 15352 |
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Not prog but tracks like this a cool AF |
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17990 |
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The consensus is this is a rock site not a rap site, the dimension of discussions like this thread is probably the extent of it. ![]() |
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Love the Beastie Boys ever since I bought Paul’s Boutique..although it’s been a while since I last span anything by them. I remember them fondly from the Intergalactic tour and a wild gig at the Roskilde Festival.
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foregonillusions ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 25 2018 Location: Everywhere Status: Offline Points: 233 |
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Sometimes, I think people forget the "rock" in progressive rock, and that "progressive" is mostly shorthand for prog rock.
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^Not that I think they should be included here or anything but actually the Beastie Boys had more rock than many artists in PA.
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The reason Beastie Boys gets thrown into the rock category is because they did indeed have some rock releases. Check out their punk rock debut EP And their breakthrough hit "Fight For Your Right (To Party)" was hard rock / metal But no, not prog rock in the least
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foregonillusions ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 25 2018 Location: Everywhere Status: Offline Points: 233 |
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I stand corrected. Still, the foundation should be rock with all the good, "progressive", stuff built on top.
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