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Cristi 
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 yeah, they rule!
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: June 01 2020 at 08:47 |
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Are the Beastie Boys progressive? - are greenfly good for gardening tips? Why do you conflate what we both might like with something that is clearly incompatible with even the broadest interpretation of the PA genre definitions? Never was a poster so aptly named. Get in the sea.
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Posted: June 01 2020 at 10:06 |
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I think a nerve has been struck. We must drill down further! We have to get to the bottom of this. So where were we? Ah, yes: Rush (Roll the Bones), Beastie Boys, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Anthrax ... who else would you consider to be in a newly minted Prog Rap genre? I’m curious to see where you’re going with this, since we all clearly respect each other’s opinions here. We are just brainstorming at this point.
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This expresses my sentiments well. While I do love and appreciate the Beastie Boys for their fresh innovative music--which, is, in my opinion, "progressive"--they don't really belong on PA (even though a couple of their albums make me stop and consider.)
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Jaketejas
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Posted: June 01 2020 at 11:07 |
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Imagine The Sugar Hill Gang being a forerunner to this potentially new category. And who can forget M’s Pop Muzik, which obviously inspired Rush’s Vital Signs lyrics with all the “-ate” rhymes. What about Blondie, who blended New Wave, Disco, Funk, and Hip Hop? That was quite a progressive thing to do. Are you thinking to put Blondie in there with Anthrax and company, or would she be in a sub genre? I see a lot of interesting possibilities here. The mind wanders. Comedy and Rap ... Weird Al’s White and Nerdy ... progressive “in the extreme” but different from that of Beastie Boys. What about all the rap like sounds in ELP’s Toccata Ginastera? I think it shouldn’t just be written off. I’m no expert on rap, though. Probably there are others here who are who could provide some thoughtful insights over my blatherings. Prog rap. Anyone?
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Posted: June 01 2020 at 12:42 |
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No. No prog rap on this site. Or would that be "rap-rock fusion" like we have jazz-rock fusion (which I don't think should necessarily be a sub-genre of prog rock but that's another discussion).
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Technically that might be true but the Beastie Boys first album was 1986 while RHCP's first was in 1984.
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Posted: June 01 2020 at 14:39 |
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So ... what is the consensus? Another dimension?
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I love the Beastie Boys. A lot. They were more Punk than Prog though...
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1986 may have been the first LP. But they had hardcore EP's dating back to 1982. First Def jam EP was 84. No RHCP material pre-dates that.
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Not prog but tracks like this a cool AF |
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Posted: June 09 2020 at 10:17 |
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The consensus is this is a rock site not a rap site, the dimension of discussions like this thread is probably the extent of it.  |
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Love the Beastie Boys ever since I bought Paul’s Boutique..although it’s been a while since I last span anything by them. I remember them fondly from the Intergalactic tour and a wild gig at the Roskilde Festival.
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Sometimes, I think people forget the "rock" in progressive rock, and that "progressive" is mostly shorthand for prog rock.
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Posted: June 10 2020 at 00:57 |
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^Not that I think they should be included here or anything but actually the Beastie Boys had more rock than many artists in PA.
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The reason Beastie Boys gets thrown into the rock category is because they did indeed have some rock releases. Check out their punk rock debut EP And their breakthrough hit "Fight For Your Right (To Party)" was hard rock / metal But no, not prog rock in the least
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Posted: June 10 2020 at 09:08 |
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I stand corrected. Still, the foundation should be rock with all the good, "progressive", stuff built on top.
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