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Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

PA lists Miles Davis and Miles Davis has won a Grammy eight (8) times.

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PA does list Miles Davis. That said, only some of Miles' output is prog.
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PA lists Miles Davis and Miles Davis has won a Grammy eight (8) times.

Miles & Quincy Live at Montreux
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

How exactly do you expect a prog album to win a Grammy when not even Pink Floyd has won one for albums like DSotM, WYWH, Animals or The Wall? The only one that was even nominated in the year it was eligible was The Wall, and that lost to Lennon's Double Fantasy. Floyd received a Grammy for the instrumental "Marooned", and 2 "Hall of Fame" awards for DSoTM in 1999 and the Wall in 2008. I guess Grammy's "Hall of Fame" awards are actually "We Admit We F*cked Up" Revisionist awards.

Yes never got a nomination in their heyday (although later songs like "Blower of a Wicked Fart" and albums like Big Generator were nominated), Genesis was never even nominated until they started playing Broadway show tunes and romantic movie melodies, and Tull was nominated once for Heavy Metal, of all things, but never for any album from the 1970s.

Not only were Tull nominated but they won. That was when they beat Metallica making it the biggest upset in grammy history. 

As for Yes, "cinema" won for best instrumental I think in 1985(even though the album it is from 90125 was released in 83).

Also, do I need to reiterate my earlier statement about Frank Zappa winning for "jazz from hell?"  That was in the instrumental category which is probably most prog artists best shot at winning a grammy. The Tull thing was a fluke imo. They still aren't in the R&R HoF for crying out loud.

Yeah, I know Tull won. I get it. Too bad they won for what most folks would consider their 9th or 10th best album, and an album where Ian Anderson had already lost his voice.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

How exactly do you expect a prog album to win a Grammy when not even Pink Floyd has won one for albums like DSotM, WYWH, Animals or The Wall? The only one that was even nominated in the year it was eligible was The Wall, and that lost to Lennon's Double Fantasy. Floyd received a Grammy for the instrumental "Marooned", and 2 "Hall of Fame" awards for DSoTM in 1999 and the Wall in 2008. I guess Grammy's "Hall of Fame" awards are actually "We Admit We F*cked Up" Revisionist awards.

Yes never got a nomination in their heyday (although later songs like "Blower of a Wicked Fart" and albums like Big Generator were nominated), Genesis was never even nominated until they started playing Broadway show tunes and romantic movie melodies, and Tull was nominated once for Heavy Metal, of all things, but never for any album from the 1970s.

Not only were Tull nominated but they won. That was when they beat Metallica making it the biggest upset in grammy history. 

As for Yes, "cinema" won for best instrumental I think in 1985(even though the album it is from 90125 was released in 83). I don't think they were ever even nominated for anything else though(not even BG)let alone won.

Also, do I need to reiterate my earlier statement about Frank Zappa winning for "jazz from hell?"  That was in the instrumental category which is probably most prog artists best shot at winning a grammy. The Tull thing was a fluke imo. They still aren't in the R&R HoF for crying out loud.


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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

PAT METHENY has won a bunch (20 wins, 36 niminations)--including: 
1982's Offramp
1984's First Circle
1987's Still Life (Talking)
1989's Letter from Home
1993's highly acclaimed (here on PA) Secret Story
1995's Imaginary Day, and 
2005's The Way Up.

So, you're saying if Yes was put in the jazz category like Metheny for most of his nominations, they'd have probably won? What are the chances the Grammy voters would have even nominated any of Metheny's albums if he was considered for the rock category? I would say zero.
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PAT METHENY has won a bunch (20 wins, 36 niminations)--including: 
1982's Offramp
1984's First Circle
1987's Still Life (Talking)
1989's Letter from Home
1993's highly acclaimed (here on PA) Secret Story
1995's Imaginary Day, and 
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How exactly do you expect a prog album to win a Grammy when not even Pink Floyd has won one for albums like DSotM, WYWH, Animals or The Wall? The only one that was even nominated in the year it was eligible was The Wall, and that lost to Lennon's Double Fantasy. Floyd received a Grammy for the instrumental "Marooned", and 2 "Hall of Fame" awards for DSoTM in 1999 and the Wall in 2008. I guess Grammy's "Hall of Fame" awards are actually "We Admit We F*cked Up" Revisionist awards.

Yes never got a nomination in their heyday (although later songs like "Blower of a Wicked Fart" and albums like Big Generator were nominated), Genesis was never even nominated until they started playing Broadway show tunes and romantic movie melodies, and Tull was nominated once for Heavy Metal, of all things, but never for any album from the 1970s.
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That’s the one and I agree.
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The grammys are just so arbitrary to me, who decides who the winners are and why should their opinion matter to me?
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I think Rush won a Grammy for YYZ, let me check...

dang, it was nominated for best rock instrumental but lost to Behind My Camel by The Police....I love The Police but that doesn't make any sense, Behind My Camel is a bit of a snooze compared to YYZ.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by A Bard A Bard wrote:

Do you think that Prog should get more representation in the Grammys. 


No, the grammies are a joke anyway, it's the mainstream music industry patting themselves on the back, feeling self-important. 

Just look at the case of Jethro Tull winning in 1989, for an album released in 1987, for the heavy metal category. So there goes any credibility thrown out the window. 




Exactly. And who cares about stupid award shows anyway?

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by A Bard A Bard wrote:

Do you think that Prog should get more representation in the Grammys. 

No, the grammies are a joke anyway, it's the mainstream music industry patting themselves on the back, feeling self-important. 

Just look at the case of Jethro Tull winning in 1989, for an album released in 1987, for the heavy metal category. So there goes any credibility thrown out the window. 



Spot on. And don't get me started on the Turner Prize or the Booker Prize.
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Steven Wilson has been nominated several times (I think) but not sure he has won one. 
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Regarding songs, I remember Andy Summers getting one for an instrumental on Zenyotta Mondatta in the early 80s. But, there is an argument as to whether it is considered Prog. There are obvious similarities in style between Fripp and Summers, and they collaborated a lot, but here, one is generally considered Prog and the other not (all things black and white, no gray area). I think it is somewhat Proggy, so that’s why I mention it (Prog by degree perspective).

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Steely Dan got the 2000 best album award for Two Against Nature.

They catch on fast, these Grammy guys.
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Grace For Drowning was nominated for one
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Italian avant band C.S.I. but the band to rest after they had a No.1 Album in the Italian Charts
because they thought it was against everything they stood for.
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Originally posted by Woon Deadn Woon Deadn wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by A Bard A Bard wrote:

Do you think that Prog should get more representation in the Grammys. 
No, the grammies are a joke anyway, it's the mainstream music industry patting themselves on the back, feeling self-important. 

Just look at the case of Jethro Tull winning in 1989, for an album released in 1987, for the heavy metal category. So there goes any credibility thrown out the window. 
 

Similarly, there's a Ukrainian rock band Okean Elzy aka OE (Ocean Of Elza, that is). Like ten or so years ago they won some Ukrainian music award in the category of best pop band, which their leader commented with an evident taken offence. 

I remember of the Oscar for best foreign movie that came to the Soviet "Moscow Does Not Believe In Tears" in times of tension over Afghanistan in the 1980s. Not that I protest against - but I'd say, there were no less than 50 Soviet movies that undeservedly never got such a recognition. There was for example a great Soviet comedy about a naive kind-hearted retired private soldier that travels all over the country in search of an ideal wife. That comedy was absolutely Italian in its spirit and was not that far from Fellini's style. But the Oscar was given as a sort of political gesture in the early 1980s... 


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