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^ Victims Family might fit.


Thanks! I'll check it out. Looks promising with both post-hardcore and math rock tags.

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The great irony was that the punks were more conservative and narrow-minded and musically bigoted that anyone else. (Genesis P. Orridge)
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

^ Victims Family might fit.


Thanks! I'll check it out. Looks promising with both post-hardcore and math rock tags.

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The great irony was that the punks were more conservative and narrow-minded and musically bigoted that anyone else. (Genesis P. Orridge)

The whole point of the punk movement was to be narrowly focused on social issues while art rock and prog were off in dreamy la-la land. I totally get where they were coming from and it was needed actually however once you get to post-punk it was just as diverse and wild as prog in many ways.

@Tapfret.... which P-Model? RYM tags them as post-punk and new wave. Nothing proggy. Got an album to rec me?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ExittheLemming Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2020 at 03:45
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

^ Victims Family might fit.


Thanks! I'll check it out. Looks promising with both post-hardcore and math rock tags.

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The great irony was that the punks were more conservative and narrow-minded and musically bigoted that anyone else. (Genesis P. Orridge)

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The whole point of the punk movement was to be narrowly focused on social issues while art rock and prog were off in dreamy la-la land. I totally get where they were coming from and it was needed actually however once you get to post-punk it was just as diverse and wild as prog in many ways.

@Tapfret.... which P-Model? RYM tags them as post-punk and new wave. Nothing proggy. Got an album to rec me?


Yes, I agree that was broadly true at the outset/source but I think Mr Orridge was referring to those for whom Punk was no more than a fashionable haircut, a leather jacket and a pre-ripped T shirt from HarrodsWink
The very first salvo of Punk music was completely irrelevant to me as I found it mostly inarticulate bludgeoning garbage. What was more important was that it foisted upon a very bloated, complacent and corrupt music industry a DIY and collective egalitarian ethos that changed an entire marketplace irrevocably. It also paved the way for those who followed in its wake, most of whom are my favourite bands of all time and would all fall broadly into the 'Post Punk' bracket. However, although I clearly discern the palpable influence of Punk on PIL, the Cure, the Monochrome Set, Wire, Echo & the Bunnymen, XTC, the Sound, Magazine, Television, Pere Ubu, Talking Heads, Gang of Four, Devo and the Slits etc I don't consider any of the foregoing as Punk bands. (I think the clue's in the 'Post' bit franklyWink) This brings us to an interesting parallel with that of Prog e.g. by the same token, I can hear the clear palpable influence of Prog on the likes of Wobbler, Black Bonzo, the Mars Volta, Dream Theater, Tool, Porcupine Tree, Echolyn, Transatlantic, Flower Kings, Spock's Beard et al but I don't consider those who followed in the wake of Prog to be Prog bands (maybe just Rock bands heavily influenced and inspired by Prog?)Tongue
Think I disappeared up my own backside during that last sentence Confused


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Easy Money Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2020 at 05:05
How about some proto punk, Big Jay McNeely in 1956:

Help the victims of the russian invasion:
http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28523&PID=130446&title=various-ways-you-can-help-ukraine#130446
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Skids were always my favourite punk band.

Prog link...Bill Nelson produced their second album "Days In Europa".



And their 3rd album "The Absolute Game" is a masterpiece IMHO... not really punk...more post-punk. Very unique album.

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

^ Victims Family might fit.


Thanks! I'll check it out. Looks promising with both post-hardcore and math rock tags.

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Early P-Model. 


That quote you were looking for:

The great irony was that the punks were more conservative and narrow-minded and musically bigoted that anyone else. (Genesis P. Orridge)

The whole point of the punk movement was to be narrowly focused on social issues while art rock and prog were off in dreamy la-la land. I totally get where they were coming from and it was needed actually however once you get to post-punk it was just as diverse and wild as prog in many ways.

@Tapfret.... which P-Model? RYM tags them as post-punk and new wave. Nothing proggy. Got an album to rec me?

The debut, In a Model Room.



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P-Model are great, including the early albums, but the later albums, which leave punk (and rock) far behind, are more unique. Susumu Hirasawa developed a very distinct voice and musical identity through P-Model and his solo career. Nothing I've heard sounds quite like him and everything I've heard by him is immediately recognizable as having his hand on it. 
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^You´re so silly!
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