The "punk" appreciation thread
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Topic: The "punk" appreciation thread
Posted By: Logan
Subject: The "punk" appreciation thread
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 12:45
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"Ow, we got the punk, give up the punk". This is all about punk, punk related, and punky music and I include categories such as post-punk, art punk, Pronk, sophisto-punk, polka punk, experimental punk, can't play my instrument for sh*t punk, punk fusion, punktronica, baroque punk, chamber punk, funk-punk, Punk Flood, give that back you punk!, ethno and world punk, punkademic music and punkademia, surf punk, turf punk, Nerf punk, garage punk, parking lot punk, celtic punk, gypsy punk, folk punk, fu*k punk, dance punk, proto punk, J-punk, drunk as a punk, sunshine punk, rainyday punk, bubblegum punk, hardcore punk, softcore punk, porncore punk, steampunk, steamypunk, the punk that was so much better in my day, lounge punk, neo-punk, PnIO (Punk Not in Opposition), you’ve been punked, punky chicken and other poultry products, Punky Brewster, and of course football hooligans. If it's sincerely punk or punk related enough for you to mention then it's punk enough for this topic. And to any of the naysayers, in somewhat true punk fashion, “Punk you and that punk-ass horse you rode in on.” I'll start with something from a band from my youth. I'm sure he wouldn't remember, but I will never forget the time I first met THE Joey Sh*thead (he is now a City Councillor). And of the art punk variety, something from Television's Marquee Moon: From This Heat: From Pere Ubu: And a lovely ditty from a little known band (at least in some remote areas):  |
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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 12:57
Great album.  I especially like the title track. It was Robert Christgau who first drew my attention to this album, though I've seen it highly praised several times by other people since then.------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Logan wrote:Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 13:06
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One of my favourite bands of all time is Killing Joke, were all facets and changes iin the band is regarded, also Chameleon UK is also a favourite. Like also the slund and feel of the Ramones, the Clashh and Six Pistoles bu leans more to thr camoflaged fusion in the punk the Police offered. Im also fearly big grunge fan and early grunge ala Soundgarden was post-punk who sounded more like Killing Joke and Bauhaus than Sabbath /Zeppelin. -------------  
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Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 13:17
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https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.roughtradepublishing.com%2Fartist%2Fcrass%2F&psig=AOvVaw1sNa6zU8Xz1RGN4wtISTiB&ust=1588705919000000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCPiTt6D1mukCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAW" rel="nofollow">  ------------- |
Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 13:18
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.strangerthanparadiserecords.com%2Fcrass-feeding-the-five-thousand.html&psig=AOvVaw1sNa6zU8Xz1RGN4wtISTiB&ust=1588705919000000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCPiTt6D1mukCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAi" rel="nofollow"> ------------- |
Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 13:19
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Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 13:20
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fpunkygibbon.co.uk%2Fbands%2Fm%2Fmobuk_nodoves_7_images.html&psig=AOvVaw26RKcn5zC-U_1n3Nomo1VL&ust=1588706728098000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCOCi5fn3mukCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD" rel="nofollow"> ------------- |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 13:21
Go Ahead, Punks... Make My Day!  |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 13:34
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Strangly this thread is made after a pioneer in keyboard based art punk Dave Greenfield of the Stranglers just died batteling Covid-19. So now iblistening to amazing Raven by the Stranglers. -------------
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 13:55
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Linux is not Unix and post punk is not punk. Anyway, here we are. (Sorry, of the best I've got to play three, see Barbara Morgenstern.) |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 13:59
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Some proof that there is prog punk: -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 14:06
we're running through all their albums this evening... we are both huge fans of the group.. but yeah.. the Raven absolutely f**king rules... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 14:14
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Jaz Coleman is totally bonkers, but this is one great live video! ...and then these... PS: What I'm posting is of course post punk. The clue is in the verb.
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 14:19
They were always the proggiest of the first-wave UK punk bands. Though really I think of them more as The Doors of punk. ------------- Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to. http://bandcamp.com/jpillbox" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp Profile |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 14:23
The Stranglers never were punk; they only sailed under that flag. They said so themselves in several interviews.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 15:01
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you know.. I seen and read the same and to be honest think it is a big steaming pile of sh*t. Of course they thought themselves more than kids that could barely play their instruments but one must ask themself. Is prog not rock because it is more technical.. artistically inclined.. no it is not. The Stranglers were far more than the usual Punk band just as .. umm... Yes was to say.. Aerosmith... but to say they were not a punk band ignores just how much they were.. umm... punk rock at its core ethos. A giant heaping of the f**k you mentallity... a big side of misoginy...biting social and poltical commentary.. and above all.. a stark calculation to promoteshock and outrage. Oh they were Punk... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 15:04
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Hi, I just saw the film THE DECLINE OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION ... and wow ... my definition of punk just went out the door, into insanity ... even Iggy wasn't punk if that's the idea! But some of that stuff is insane ... but yeah ... that's LA for you at one of its worst times! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 15:26
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I'm not too keen on traditional punk. I like The Damned's Machine Gun Etiquette, though that's still not quite typical traditional punk: Also, Television, but I don't consider them straight punk either. As far as stuff which is undeniably punk, I am more sympathetic to hardcore punk:
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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 15:33
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Right before you get into full-on post-hardcore, you have some bands that were reaching towards post-hardcore that are still in the "undeniably punk" camp: ------------- https://dreamwindow.bandcamp.com/releases" rel="nofollow - My Music
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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 15:39
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some artsier "undeniable punks": Other than that, I generally tend to lean towards the "kinda not punk" genres like post-punk, post-hardcore, more progressive or metallic punk subgenres.
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 15:46
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I will also like to give a shout to the band Midnight Oil for also providing a very creative blend of flavours in their punk compot. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hjd9sjLFUOw" rel="nofollow - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hjd9sjLFUOw -------------
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 15:48
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I love Television. The extended guitar solo in "Marquee Moon" remains one of my favourite guitar solos and still gives me goosebumps. In Denmark the most influential punk band was Sods who released their debut album Minutes To Go in 1979: They quickly moved away from punk proper on their second album after which they changed their name to Sort Sol: They would receive more success as Sort Sol, and they became a kind of institution in Danish rock music eventually. Their breakthrough album from 1991 had songs that sound like this: |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 16:22
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The Clash...another punk band, like the Stranglers, that doesn't fit the stereotype but was undeniably punk regardless of what they thought of themselves.. even if they could play their instruments, write good songs and had artistic aspirations over and above living up to the PR mage and OD'ing a few times, being a drunk the rest of the time, Getting tossed into the City Hilton a few times getting off on losing a few teeth in the local pub , tossing pussy prog fans (mostly Genesis fan) through the bar front window and ending the high evening on a high note and playing the filling of an Oreo sandwich of two drunk broads who'll make you howl.. but ending pissing in your bed after they pass out .. hah... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 17:47
I'd like to quote from the Wikipedia article about The Stranglers to support Friede: Formed as the Guildford Stranglers on 11 September 1974 in Guildford, Surrey, they originally built a following within the mid-1970s pub rock scene. While their aggressive, no-compromise attitude had them identified by the media with the emerging UK punk rock scene that followed, their idiosyncratic approach rarely followed any single musical genre, and the group went on to explore a variety of musical styles, from new wave, art rock and gothic rock through the sophisti-pop of some of their 1980s output.
-------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 18:19
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hahah.. love it Greg.. I haven't seen so many forum edits from a post from you since you were a proud member of the AR goon squad and next to David my most feared forum Capo... Jean... I'll take what Greg said and unpunk it.. and let's in the spirit of the forum... prog it up a bit. Forget Wiki... we evaluate music here.. it comes with that higher musical ID we supposedly have. Put into words.. your wordswhy you don't think they fit into the punk camp... and while at it... see if they could apply to my prog extension. Yes v. Aerosmith.. both rock.. completely different in pretty much every other sense. Punk has a stereotype.. sure.. but as I pointed out.. they are have far more in common with Punk than areas they do not. They are in that way much like the Clash... only a musical simpleton would say that .. well they have keyboads and thus can't be a punk band. and you are no simpleton... come on... use that impressive brain of yours and leave the Wiki sh*t.. even the owrds of the band. both worthless.. behind. edit.. for what it is worth.. I supported and fought for their addition here but lost the vote on that. they belonged here musically.. not because they were or were not punk. Punk was never really about the music now was it.. thus one can't say one is punk for not sounding 'punk'.
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 18:29
I have explained it many times. The Stranglers often use real polyphony in their music, a highly advanced compositional technique that is rare among prog artists even. any rock music that is so sophisticated is definitely progressive rock to me ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 18:52
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I've always been partial to the Pogues. Always fun to count the f-bombs you can tally from Shane MacGowan's drunken slur... ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 21:06
I notice that Dave Greenfield (RIP) listed Rick Wakeman as one of his main influences, although I bet he wouldn't have admitted that in 1976.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 22:43
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Watched these earlier; fun. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 23:00
I'm listening to Stranglers IV (Rattus Norvegicus), been a log time, damn that's such a good album.  Incidentally, I would have liked to see The Stranglers in PA. |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 05 2020 at 00:59
my personal favorite is "Black and White", but "Rattus Norvegicus" is excellent too ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 05 2020 at 02:23
The Stranglers in ProgArchives!?? You cannot be SERIOUS!!!  |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: May 05 2020 at 03:41
Likewise. Just plain vanilla punk is kinda boring to me. Maybe if I had lived in England through that time, I would have understood and appreciated the context of it. But I am just a millennial consuming music and there are limits to how much I can contextualise music to appreciate it. Actually, f**k that, I don't do that, ultimately I have to like it at some instinctive level. My liking or not liking is not going to make an iota of difference to the greatness of the movement anyway so why should I labour. if there is something I like about a kind of music and something else that bothers me, I can work to overcome the latter. I did that with hip hop because I always liked the syncopation and only the speakeasy 'singing' bothered me. But if everything about a kind of music is meh to me, I would much rather not bite.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: May 05 2020 at 04:05
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Agnostic Front = Hard Core Punk! ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: May 05 2020 at 04:07
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Really great thread, thanx Logan!!!! Here are some of my big faves I think not yet put here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5I2vEcVC_I" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5I2vEcVC_I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpwcrOGRjC8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpwcrOGRjC8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdXLOb69nWw" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdXLOb69nWw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riIHQ8BV-kk" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riIHQ8BV-kk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1tdTS_Jr8s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1tdTS_Jr8s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzPMEII3NEQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzPMEII3NEQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbBeomD20n4" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbBeomD20n4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds7bMQVKgTs" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds7bMQVKgTs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1gQ5huEPTI" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1gQ5huEPTI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mj9FhrlEh0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mj9FhrlEh0
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: May 05 2020 at 05:20
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Great song. ------------- 
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 05 2020 at 05:39
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Inner City Unit are definitely our favorite punk band. hardly anyone knows them though. "Pass Out", "Punkadelic", "The Maximum Effect" and "The Presidents Tapes" are great albums ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 05 2020 at 06:09
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------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: May 05 2020 at 11:02
| Dead Kennedys of course one of the greatest HC punk bands! |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 05 2020 at 17:34
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The most radical punk band in Denmark was probably No Knox. They
had slogans such as "No chords" and "Ruin music" and made an artistic
point out of not knowing how to play their instruments. It produced
songs such as this: |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: May 05 2020 at 17:56
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Love me some punk and some of the above mentioned are awesome! Here's a few personal faves: Full Album: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUxkFCBPgx4&list=PLxN_AT2viyFDJPaSNKcZgZTHHSafdthlQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUxkFCBPgx4&list=PLxN_AT2viyFDJPaSNKcZgZTHHSafdthlQ Full album: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP38YezN88M&list=PL5SMXYhIcZ5I9Fkv4bwc0CB9elzmsUcO8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP38YezN88M&list=PL5SMXYhIcZ5I9Fkv4bwc0CB9elzmsUcO8 Full album: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQP_Q9eGKQg&list=PL-cHDTXElYhg1Qtuud7VOjl-D1Fb3vumJ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQP_Q9eGKQg&list=PL-cHDTXElYhg1Qtuud7VOjl-D1Fb3vumJ TONS more. Just what i can think of at the moment that hasn't been mentioned already -------------  https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: May 05 2020 at 18:26
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I second Dog Faced Hermans. ------------- https://dreamwindow.bandcamp.com/releases" rel="nofollow - My Music
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 06 2020 at 06:46
Hi, I think this clarity of your understanding just shows how much some folks listen to music ... it sounds like ... and who cares about the music work itself. This is one of the reasons why I keep saying ... unplug it ... and you know right away who is good and who is not, and this band would make it real quick! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 06 2020 at 11:56
And this comes from a Tangerine Dream fan!
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: May 09 2020 at 08:26
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Although very little of the first wave of Punk music will endure, it changed the
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 10 2020 at 23:36
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The first wave of punk does endure for me. I enjoyed the edginess of it but it's fun to hear these bands being played on BBC Radio 2 occasionally , the home of middle of the road pop music. (actually they were interviewing Nick Mason not long ago but that's another thing!) |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: May 11 2020 at 02:00
That's interesting as I didn't anticipate you would hold that view. I guess it depends on who you consider is included in the 'first wave' of Punk e.g. in the UK, apart from the Pistols, The Damned, the Ramones, the Adverts and say, the Vibrators, I can't recall many more who actually grabbed my attention musically. Which begs the question: am I the only Clash fan in history that doesn't rate the debut album? (Probably and I still don't to this day
 :the Clash became a brilliant rock band but were an incredibly over-hyped Punk one) Yes, the proffered timelines become blurrier with every passing year but just for a semblance of clarity, the usual suspects: Television, Blondie, NY Dolls, Patti Smith, Talking Heads, Stranglers, Boomtown Rats, Heartbreakers, Voidoids, Stooges, Undertones, Eddie & the Hot Rods, Buzzcocks, Jam, Saints et al were all bands whose output I have enjoyed but they have precious little to do with Punk apart from a feisty attitude and a disdain for what might have been perceived as naive hippy values.-------------
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 12 2020 at 00:10
You left out the most important two for me The Stanglers and Siouxsie and The Banshees Adding from your list The Damned ,The Adverts and The Sex Pistols you probably have my top five punk bands. I think also that The Motors may have been in that first wave but not sure. They seemed to move away from the punk sound pretty quick though! Never a big fan of The Clash but I do like the song London Calling. Has that post apocalyptic vibe , almost a bit proggy!
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: May 12 2020 at 03:40
Yes, Siouxsie & Co were around in '76 (perhaps even earlier but it took them a long time to get signed) and the Stranglers also answered the roll call. I was only ever drawn to the Banshees around Kaleidoscope (1980) when they had matured into, for all intents and purposes, a 'Post-Punk' benchmark. The Stranglers have always struck me as indelibly shaped by psychedelia and a 60's trash aesthetic. That said, I agree they were both pivotal in the development of nascent Punk without necessarily endorsing the movement's values or signature style. -------------
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 12 2020 at 04:12
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A very cool band kn the 80s post punk scene is the utterly strange music of Blaine L Reininger and Tuxedomon. Very quirky, Bowie-esque but with allusions to avant garde. -------------
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: May 12 2020 at 06:18
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 12 2020 at 07:16
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the wonderful and quirky Blaine L Reininger. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=03Yr_LBtl6Q" rel="nofollow - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=03Yr_LBtl6Q -------------
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 12 2020 at 07:25
| London Calling is one of my all time favourite albums. It retains the punk energy, but it is first and foremost a great rock album with some very well written songs. I also love the reggae influence in many of the songs. |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 12 2020 at 08:49
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Also, I really love Idles. I know they don't like to be called punk, but I don't know how I could describe it otherwise. |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: May 12 2020 at 10:21
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I was a toddler during the classic prog years. I was attracted to the Zappa stuff my dad had because of the funny noises. Later got into the Yes, ELP and Jethro Tull albums he brought home. My teenage years were all punk and those metal bands that infused punk into their stuff, so thrash and early black metal. And it had to be hardcore, so a lot of the ultra-fast west coast stuff, though I was also a fan of the politically charged stuff. Basically from 82-87 was all punk and the like. Tuesday nights on KPFA San Francisco Public Radio (simulcast to KFCF in my hometown of Fresno) was "Maximum Rock n Roll" night. (The Zine, like all that it rails against, has become a stale breeding ground of conformity). The show was a great window into punk around the world. Many of the bands I enjoyed are already mentioned. Eventually through thrash metal I discovered progressive metal that brought me full circle to classic prog. I still enjoy the energy of hardcore and go back and listen to the classics. But the scene itself became a caricature of the excesses it was supposed to be standing against. Greg's OP has the 1978 DOA clip where they talk about how ...'rock n roll isn't supposed to be about putting on your best clothes...'. Well, it really comes down to the expectations of wearing a uniform. And if punk didn't become all about the uniform, I don't know what did. There was a Genesis P-Orridge quote about that paradox...heck if I can find it. Here are a few punk favs. The biggest act of the time in Fresno was Capitol Punishment. Fun story, vocalist Ralph Lotspeich was an aspiring PGA golfer who now works as a golf pro in Bonner's Ferry, Idaho. Some other favs: Without "Maximum Rock n Roll" I never would have been exposed to this Japanese gem. My all-time favorite punk album is Worlds Apart by Subhumans. As far as I am concerned, the best songwriters in punk history. Their ability to incorporate different styles and reverby psychedelia gives them a bit of a prog texture. As far is bands with prog credentials, I would primarily go with a the post-punk movement. P-Model, prior to their shift to techno comes to mind. The guitar and keyboard interplay has some pretty sneaky complexity. Too bad buying their albums now will cost you your first born. And on the more atonal (and modern)side...Arab on Radar. Definitely NSFW. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: May 12 2020 at 12:47
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^ Maximum Rock n Roll and KPFA, those were the days and I remember them well. I was part of that scene, playing in bands and putting on shows, good times. ------------- Help the victims of the russian invasion: http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28523&PID=130446&title=various-ways-you-can-help-ukraine#130446 |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: May 12 2020 at 12:50
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If anyone is interested i just made a PRONK list on Rate Your Music. Let me know if i'm missing something! http://rateyourmusic.com/list/siLLy_puPPy/prog-punk-pronk/" rel="nofollow - https://rateyourmusic.com/list/siLLy_puPPy/prog-punk-pronk/  ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: May 12 2020 at 12:53
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^ Victims Family might fit. ------------- Help the victims of the russian invasion: http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28523&PID=130446&title=various-ways-you-can-help-ukraine#130446 |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: May 12 2020 at 13:23
Thanks! I'll check it out. Looks promising with both post-hardcore and math rock tags. PRONK LIST ON RYM http://rateyourmusic.com/list/siLLy_puPPy/prog-punk-pronk/" rel="nofollow - https://rateyourmusic.com/list/siLLy_puPPy/prog-punk-pronk/
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: May 12 2020 at 14:24
Early P-Model. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: May 12 2020 at 15:02
That quote you were looking for: The great irony was that the punks were more conservative and narrow-minded
and musically bigoted that anyone else. (Genesis P. Orridge) -------------
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: May 12 2020 at 17:00
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: May 13 2020 at 03:45
Yes, I agree that was broadly true at the outset/source but I think Mr Orridge was referring to those for whom Punk was no more than a fashionable haircut, a leather jacket and a pre-ripped T shirt from Harrods The very first salvo of Punk music was completely irrelevant to me as I found it mostly inarticulate bludgeoning garbage. What was more important was that it foisted upon a very bloated, complacent and corrupt music industry a DIY and collective egalitarian ethos that changed an entire marketplace irrevocably. It also paved the way for those who followed in its wake, most of whom are my favourite bands of all time and would all fall broadly into the 'Post Punk' bracket. However, although I clearly discern the palpable influence of Punk on PIL, the Cure, the Monochrome Set, Wire, Echo & the Bunnymen, XTC, the Sound, Magazine, Television, Pere Ubu, Talking Heads, Gang of Four, Devo and the Slits etc I don't consider any of the foregoing as Punk bands. (I think the clue's in the 'Post' bit frankly ) This brings us to an interesting parallel with that of Prog e.g. by the same token, I can hear the clear palpable influence of Prog on the likes of Wobbler, Black Bonzo, the Mars Volta, Dream Theater, Tool, Porcupine Tree, Echolyn, Transatlantic, Flower Kings, Spock's Beard et al but I don't consider those who followed in the wake of Prog to be Prog bands (maybe just Rock bands heavily influenced and inspired by Prog?) Think I disappeared up my own backside during that last sentence
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: May 13 2020 at 05:05
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How about some proto punk, Big Jay McNeely in 1956: ------------- Help the victims of the russian invasion: http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28523&PID=130446&title=various-ways-you-can-help-ukraine#130446 |
Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: May 13 2020 at 05:13
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Skids were always my favourite punk band. Prog link...Bill Nelson produced their second album "Days In Europa". And their 3rd album "The Absolute Game" is a masterpiece IMHO... not really punk...more post-punk. Very unique album. |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: May 13 2020 at 08:26
The debut, In a Model Room. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: May 15 2020 at 16:32
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P-Model are great, including the early albums, but the later albums, which leave punk (and rock) far behind, are more unique. Susumu Hirasawa developed a very distinct voice and musical identity through P-Model and his solo career. Nothing I've heard sounds quite like him and everything I've heard by him is immediately recognizable as having his hand on it. ------------- https://dreamwindow.bandcamp.com/releases" rel="nofollow - My Music
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: May 15 2020 at 17:03
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All these suggestions make me want to touch myself inappropriately https://www.wikihow.com/Deal-with-Toddlers-Who-Touch-Themselves#/Image:Deal-with-Toddlers-Who-Touch-Themselves-Step-6.jpg" rel="nofollow -  ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: May 15 2020 at 23:38
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