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Re: Barbara Morgenstern - "Die Liebe". Wow, this is amazing! Very original, and I like the adventurous and surprising chord changes a lot. Didn't know her.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

  Labels, by the way, commonly become less and less important to me as I get older.

Given that this is so, you write quite a lot about them. Tongue
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2020 at 17:56
Well, I genuinely am sorry about that Cristi. I appreciate hearing all the music here and, while I was getting a bit of a headache from spending too much time typing for this thread (to which I chose to do because I wanted to), I genuinely have appreciated the discussion. I wanted it to be fairly free-wheelin' and fun for people. I try to keep open ears and an open mind, just not so open that my brains fall out, as the saying goes. Labels, by the way, commonly become less and less important to me as I get older.

EDIT: I'm really liking the Barbara Morgenstern, Lewian particularly, and the other music.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2020 at 18:04
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

  Labels, by the way, commonly become less and less important to me as I get older.

Given that this is so, you write quite a lot about them. Tongue


The irony was not lost on me. It's something of a force of habit at the site as so much of my time here has been spent with people arguing about labels (even if was mostly me arguing). Perhaps we need a much greater variety of trivial kinds of topics in which to argue about quite unimportant things. But those topics should be well defined and categorised. ;) I actually enjoy discussions of all things and exploring ideas as deeply as my poor, stricken brain, and time, allows.

Nomenclature is the bane of the archivist and the pedant.

EDIT: Seriously, it wasn't so much about me caring about labels, more that I wanted to try to explain where I was coming from cause I felt I hadn't communicated my ideas well enough in discussion, and think I still haven't. That said, my ideas shift as I engage in discussion and get to understand different perspectives. I try to keep an open mind and an open line to communication. My favourite discussions commonly are those that lead to a synthesis of ideas. I am still interested in labels for sure (labels are useful), but I don't care as much about how others use them as long as I can come to understand how they are being used. As long as I have an idea of where another is coming from, and that person understands where I am coming from, and we can both be accommodating, then that lends itself to fruitful and enjoyable discussion for me. When constantly talking at cross-purposes, well, that can be frustrating.

Edited by Logan - May 03 2020 at 18:50
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2020 at 08:19
While I'm more into classic Krautrock, I was thinking that I like music of the "Krautpop" ilk (some Stereolab being an obvious preference point, and Pram which I posted a track of before, and one track which I thought as 90s but was from 81).

I'm digging Prolapse, which is more of a 90s Indie Rock/ Post Punk band with Krautrock qualities than a "poppy" band for me (yes, me and labels but labels help to describe music), but there are dream pop qualities in music. I guess I could have just made this topic "90s music one finds quirky and/or interesting generally not considered Prog" (nah, doesn't work for me either). Or entitled it "Indie/Pop/Alternative/Downtempo/Lounge/Electro etc".

Some Prolapse:



(this has a very poppy sound to me).

Electralane (Indie Rock/ Indie Pop meets Krautrock):





Quickspace (which has noise pop qualities):



I really hadn't meant to get too hung up on labels, though that has been interesting to think about and delve into, and meant from the beginning, if you find it pop or poppy, then the music you mention fits. If we're enjoying each other's music to some extent, that's what matters more to me than how it's labelled, but that doesn't mean that I don't find the discussion/deep dives on labels interesting in and of itself. Pop and poppy can cover such a huge amount of ground, which I hoped to express. If one uses the terms pop and poppy utilising narrow parameters, that's fine as well. Hopefully we can come to understand each other, but we don't have to agree on the limits.

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Duran Duran - The Wedding Album
Crash Test Dummies - God Shuffled His Feet
Tasmin Archer - Great Expectations
Toris Amos - Little Earthquakes
Oasis - WTSMG

Probably my 5 favourite non-prog/metal/hard rock albums from the '90s!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Icarium Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2020 at 09:59
I can second Crash Test Dummie, underrated band oftend to wrongfully prejudged. Album with amazing production.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote essexboyinwales Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2020 at 03:09
Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

I can second Crash Test Dummie, underrated band oftend to wrongfully prejudged. Album with amazing production.


...and very interesting/thoughtful/playful lyrics....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2020 at 03:44
Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

I can second Crash Test Dummie, underrated band oftend to wrongfully prejudged. Album with amazing production.

their most famous song (the "mmmm" song) was alright, quirky and playful, but got played so much back then that it got old so fast, you could not escape it... 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Icarium Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2020 at 04:04
Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

I can second Crash Test Dummie, underrated band oftend to wrongfully prejudged. Album with amazing production.


...and very interesting/thoughtful/playful lyrics....
I hace read somwhere that ghe frontperson /vocalist have a bachelor degree or Master in english literature. Which can give a clue to the lyrical quality of CTD
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Icarium Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2020 at 04:09
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

I can second Crash Test Dummie, underrated band oftend to wrongfully prejudged. Album with amazing production.


their most famous song (the "mmmm" song) was alright, quirky and playful, but got played so much back then that it got old so fast, you could not escape it... 
It is unfortiomate that also Eddie Vedders 'yarly' vocal style accidently also was used quite silmuntainously by Crash Test vocalist.

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Some Indy Pop/ Dream Pop/ Twee Pop some call it...





And some Pram



Pram is more my thing, but I do like Dubstar's "Just a Girl She Said".



Edited by Logan - May 18 2020 at 22:34
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