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    Posted: May 04 2020 at 12:45
"Ow, we got the punk, give up the punk".

This is all about punk, punk related, and punky music and I include categories such as post-punk, art punk, Pronk, sophisto-punk, polka punk, experimental punk, can't play my instrument for sh*t punk, punk fusion, punktronica, baroque punk, chamber punk, funk-punk, Punk Flood, give that back you punk!, ethno and world punk, punkademic music and punkademia, surf punk, turf punk, Nerf punk, garage punk, parking lot punk, celtic punk, gypsy punk, folk punk, fu*k punk, dance punk, proto punk, J-punk, drunk as a punk, sunshine punk, rainyday punk, bubblegum punk, hardcore punk, softcore punk, porncore punk, steampunk, steamypunk, the punk that was so much better in my day, lounge punk, neo-punk, PnIO (Punk Not in Opposition), you’ve been punked, punky chicken and other poultry products, Punky Brewster, and of course football hooligans. If it's sincerely punk or punk related enough for you to mention then it's punk enough for this topic. And to any of the naysayers, in somewhat true punk fashion, “Punk you and that punk-ass horse you rode in on.”

I'll start with something from a band from my youth. I'm sure he wouldn't remember, but I will never forget the time I first met THE Joey Sh*thead (he is now a City Councillor).



And of the art punk variety, something from Television's Marquee Moon:



From This Heat:



From Pere Ubu:



And a lovely ditty from a little known band (at least in some remote areas):






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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

And of the art punk variety, something from Television's Marquee Moon:



 
Great album. Thumbs Up  I especially like the title track. It was Robert Christgau who first drew my attention to this album, though I've seen it highly praised several times by other people since then.
 
 


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One of my favourite bands of all time is Killing Joke, were all facets and changes iin the band is regarded, also Chameleon UK is also a favourite. Like also the slund and feel of the Ramones, the Clashh and Six Pistoles bu leans more to thr camoflaged fusion in the punk the Police offered. Im also fearly big grunge fan and early grunge ala Soundgarden was post-punk who sounded more like Killing Joke and Bauhaus than Sabbath /Zeppelin.

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Crass - Rough Trade Publishing


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Buy Crass - Feeding The Five Thousand from STPR - STRANGER THAN ...

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Crass - Stations Of The Crass - Boomkat

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The Mob - No Doves Fly Here (Crass - 321984/7) 

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Go Ahead, Punks... Make My Day! Smile
 
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Strangly this thread is made after a pioneer in keyboard based art punk Dave Greenfield of the Stranglers just died batteling Covid-19. So now iblistening to amazing Raven by the Stranglers.
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Linux is not Unix and post punk is not punk. Anyway, here we are. (Sorry, of the best I've got to play three, see Barbara Morgenstern.)


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Some proof that there is prog punk:














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Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Strangly this thread is made after a pioneer in keyboard based art punk Dave Greenfield of the Stranglers just died batteling Covid-19. So now iblistening to amazing Raven by the Stranglers.

we're running through all their albums this evening...  we are both huge fans of the group.. 

but yeah.. the Raven absolutely f**king rules...
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Jaz Coleman is totally bonkers, but this is one great live video!
...and then these...


PS: What I'm posting is of course  post punk. The clue is in the verb.


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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Strangly this thread is made after a pioneer in keyboard based art punk Dave Greenfield of the Stranglers just died batteling Covid-19. So now iblistening to amazing Raven by the Stranglers.


we're running through all their albums this evening...  we are both huge fans of the group.. 

but yeah.. the Raven absolutely f**king rules...

They were always the proggiest of the first-wave UK punk bands. Though really I think of them more as The Doors of punk.
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Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Strangly this thread is made after a pioneer in keyboard based art punk Dave Greenfield of the Stranglers just died batteling Covid-19. So now iblistening to amazing Raven by the Stranglers.


we're running through all their albums this evening...  we are both huge fans of the group.. 

but yeah.. the Raven absolutely f**king rules...

They were always the proggiest of the first-wave UK punk bands. Though really I think of them more as The Doors of punk.

The Stranglers never were punk; they only sailed under that flag. They said so themselves in several interviews.


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you know.. I seen and read the same and to be honest think it is a big steaming pile of sh*t. Of course they thought themselves more than kids that could barely play their instruments but one must ask themself.

Is prog not rock because it is more technical.. artistically inclined.. no it is not.

The Stranglers were far more than the usual Punk band just as .. umm... Yes was to say.. Aerosmith...

but to say they were not a punk band ignores just how much they were.. umm... punk rock at its core ethos.  A giant heaping of the f**k you mentallity... a big side of misoginy...biting social and poltical commentary.. and above all..  a stark calculation to promoteshock and outrage.  

Oh they were Punk... 
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Hi,

I just saw the film THE DECLINE OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION ... and wow ... my definition of punk just went out the door, into insanity ... even Iggy wasn't punk if that's the idea!

But some of that stuff is insane ... but yeah ... that's LA for you at one of its worst times!
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I'm not too keen on traditional punk. I like The Damned's Machine Gun Etiquette, though that's still not quite typical traditional punk:

Also, Television, but I don't consider them straight punk either.

As far as stuff which is undeniably punk, I am more sympathetic to hardcore punk:


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Right before you get into full-on post-hardcore, you have some bands that were reaching towards post-hardcore that are still in the "undeniably punk" camp:



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some artsier "undeniable punks":

Other than that, I generally tend to lean towards the "kinda not punk" genres like post-punk, post-hardcore, more progressive or metallic punk subgenres.


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