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LAM-SGC ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 26 2018 Location: se Status: Offline Points: 1550 |
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I don't know why but that's one of the few TD albums I really need to have another go at. I don't know, it just seemed to pass me by. |
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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Whenever a poster castigates a song with adjectives "noodling" or "rambling". They surely realise that, most of us, as prog fans, welcome and embrace most noodling and rambling as essential for the genre....short is for commercial pop....let us celebrate the need for length....extension is good...
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 44698 |
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I only used the word "noodling" once in an album review. Never again. Although I didn't mean it disrespectfully. I just prefer "keyboard wizardry" or some such similar term of praise to voice my approval.
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 19106 |
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Stratosfear is one of their MASTERWORKS. The title track is, hands down, one of the best things they've ever done.
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Braka1 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2019 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1171 |
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This has probably been said somewhere above, but I think rock albums - and perhaps especially prog - benifited from the constraints of the LP era. Rock grew up with a typical 40 minute album 'limit', and I think that's part of its DNA (yes, artists like Klaus Schulze squeezed 30 minutes a side onto vinyl, but the sound quality starts to drop noticeably if you do that with something with a lot of dynamic range) Quite apart from those physical considerations, an LP has four pivotal tracks: the first and last tracks on side A and B. I'd dare to say all great rock albums were sequenced with this dynamic in mind. The coming of the CD means we lost two of those pivot points, and with streaming we pretty much lost all of them. I have to admit I don't really miss changing LP sides, nor do I miss the slow deterioration of vinyl, but I do believe old LPs on CD often suffer from the absence of that dramatic structure; probably more so if you don't remember the original vinyl sequence. And for sure, too many artists suffered a drop in quality when they transitioned to trying to 'fill up' a CD with material. I'm also of the opinion that 70-80 minutes is often just too long to maintain peak level of concentration for many styles of rock, without some sort of fatigue setting in. This may be less true for prog than many other forms. 'Tales From Topographic Oceans' is arguably an album that would like to have had access to a CD running length - though, again, the framing device of 4 side-long songs on a double LP of vinyl is essentially the same pattern as a more conventional album with the four structural points I mentioned before. Quite possibly it BECAME a work of four movements because of the constraints of vinyl, and had it come out with no need to impose a structure of that sort, it would probably have been a completely different work. YMMV. Maybe this is just because the vinyl album structure is what I grew up on, and it feels instinctively right. But when I hear 'Dark Side' on CD, I always mentally register that 'Money' is the start of side two. |
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Believe me Pope Paul, my toes are clean |
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29910 |
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yes definitely. I first heard it on the Dream Sequence compilation ( The first thing I ever bought by TD) and very slightly edited . That was when a structured approach started to become more apparent I think.
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Machinemessiah ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 02 2005 Location: Santiago, Chile Status: Offline Points: 594 |
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Yeah! it made me remember when I got my hands on Octopus on CD a long time ago (the stereo showed clearly the total play time ![]() Summing up now it seems 34:05 I think.. ![]() Edited by Machinemessiah - February 26 2020 at 05:26 |
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