Short-ish iconic studio albums 70s

Battle of Epping forest fits the concept perfectly. A triumph of lyrical comedic social comment. But non brits tend not to get the zeitgeist...

^ Inland Taipan to represent Lawers...

The Dark Elf wrote: M27Barney wrote: Battle of Epping forest fits the concept perfectly. A triumph of lyrical comedic social comment. But non brits tend not to get the zeitgeist... Oh, we non-Brits "get it". We got it in the first couple minutes of the song. Unfortunately, a 4-5 minute song that drags on with errant rambling and noodling for nearly 12 minutes wrecks the pacing of what otherwise is a brilliant album. One of the few songs of that era of Genesis that bores me to tears.

The Dark Elf wrote: M27Barney wrote: Battle of Epping forest fits the concept perfectly. A triumph of lyrical comedic social comment. But non brits tend not to get the zeitgeist... Oh, we non-Brits "get it". We got it in the first couple minutes of the song. Unfortunately, a 4-5 minute song that drags on with errant rambling and noodling for nearly 12 minutes wrecks the pacing of what otherwise is a brilliant album. One of the few songs of that era of Genesis that bores me to tears. To this day, I thank Emerson, Lake and Palmer for limiting "Benny the Bouncer" to 2:21.

I think the comparison of the chas N Dave Emerson track with a Genesis masterclass of prog rock punditry is the height of ignorance....Gabriel penned lyrics which are delivered in an assortment of character voices are part of a track which extends on the social commentary of "Harold the Barrel" another example to ELP of what a track of that type should sound like...it's a great track. Anybody who rates more fool me as better than it should stick to boy bands and stay away from symphonic prog...

For me, in most cases, I find it good that there were limitations to the length of an album, and that bands didn't have the urge to fill up more and more time just for the sake of doing so. Though there are indeed cases of wonderful longer albums nowdays, and perhaps bands could have done some great stuff back then without limitations (I can think of Shine On you Crazy Diamond from Pink Floyd, which they had to divide because it didn't fit in one side of a vinyl... or perhaps they might even have included "You gotta be Crazy" and "Raving and Drooling" on wish you were here if the CD format existed back then, instead of leaving them for the next album). And then, there's Dream Theater, whom are among my favourite bands, but I find it hard to choose a really great album from them, because they always have songs that don't satisfy me... however, if I leave out the weaker songs (talking about albums still with Portnoy), I find that it could still have been a whole album from the 70's for it's length. Still, if they had limited themselves to such times, who knows if they would have chosen the songs that I chose.

Edited by Grubert - February 20 2020 at 02:18

"Rubycon" by Tangerine Dream.

LAM-SGC wrote: Grubert wrote: Vrooom is one of my favourite Crimson albums, Thrak not. So I made, yes, yes, yes, my own album, by adding some of the Thrak stuff to Vrooom, and in that version it is the best Crimson album ever, better than In the court, better than Red, better than Discipline. . Steady on sir, better than Red? I must hear your version.

Sean Trane wrote: chopper wrote: The Dark Elf wrote: M27Barney wrote: Battle of Epping forest fits the concept perfectly. A triumph of lyrical comedic social comment. But non brits tend not to get the zeitgeist... Oh, we non-Brits "get it". We got it in the first couple minutes of the song. Unfortunately, a 4-5 minute song that drags on with errant rambling and noodling for nearly 12 minutes wrecks the pacing of what otherwise is a brilliant album. One of the few songs of that era of Genesis that bores me to tears.     Well I like it.   Actually, it's a self-proclaimed pure brit (LAM-SGC) that seems to have the most problems with it. personally I think every minute of the epic opera is great.

Pure-Brit? Hardly, I'm actually Irish :) And I live in Sweden. London was my inbetween spot, from age 5 to 34, moved to Sweden in 1996. I'm only a pure-Brit in music taste...perhaps.   

Edited by LAM-SGC - February 20 2020 at 10:44