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Rednight ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 18 2014 Location: Mar Vista, CA Status: Offline Points: 4812 |
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"It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 19117 |
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Goblin – Roller {34:14} Iconic in my book!
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 19117 |
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Tangerine Dream's epic, if unofficial, mid-'70s trilogy; the next album is shorter than the previous one. Every one of these albums rightly enjoys classic status with TD fans. Phaedra (1974) – 36:14 Rubycon (1975) – 34:53 Stratosfear (1976) – 34:39
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Cosmiclawnmower ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2010 Location: West Country,UK Status: Offline Points: 4018 |
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Todd Rundgren was well known for trying to fit as much music on to two sides of vinyl as he could; most famously for the 'Initiation' album which (according to the sleeve notes) has over an hour over two sides. It doesn't state track lengths on the label or cover and ive never 'timed' it personally.. it does suffer from (A) very low volume and (B) a very thin reedy sound. It also states on the record sleeve that if your stylus is even slightly worn you will ruin the lp immediately! Ive noticed that quite a few of Todd's 70s lps suffer from this and wonder if it was rectified in later CD production? Todd's advice at the time was to record the lp onto a cassette, setting the levels higher, and play that! Not sure that was one of Todd's smartest moves.. As an almost (but not exclusively) totally vinyl listener, I find that many modern lps are released on doubles with very short sides (12-15 mins) and sometimes a blank side with some lazer etching.. and that 'filler' is just as evident as it was in the 70s and 80's. Back then a few extra tracks were often recorded either to release as (horror of horrors) 'B' sides of singles or for a companion EP.. these are now just bonus tracks on CD re-issues.
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judahbenkenobi ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 09 2017 Location: Guatemala Status: Offline Points: 844 |
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LAM-SGC ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 26 2018 Location: se Status: Offline Points: 1550 |
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Great albums. |
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judahbenkenobi ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 09 2017 Location: Guatemala Status: Offline Points: 844 |
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Rush's Permanent Waves is so short! Only 6 songs and only 35:35!
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 19117 |
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Much firepower in such a short time frame!
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 19117 |
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Blue Oyster Cult – Agents of Fortune (36:18), the album with "(Don't Fear) The Reaper" & "E.T.I." Shorter than both Secret Treaties and Spectres, directly before/after. |
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LAM-SGC ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 26 2018 Location: se Status: Offline Points: 1550 |
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Agents of Fortunes is a great album.
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29928 |
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and Battle of Epping Forest and also maybe I know What I like (yawn), although not a bad track, Epping Forest does not stand along side Dancing With The Moonlit Knight , Cinema Show and Firth Of Fifth. 1. Dancing With The Moonlit Knight (8:01) 3. Firth Of Fifth (9:34) 6. After The Ordeal (4:12) 7. The Cinema Show (11:06) 8. Aisle Of Plenty (1:31) fixed , now we have the perfect 36 minute prog album!
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LAM-SGC ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 26 2018 Location: se Status: Offline Points: 1550 |
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Indeed, the Battle of Epping Forest is an awful cringefest from start to finish.
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Grubert ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: January 20 2020 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 143 |
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Hihi, yes, that's pretty similar to my feelings. I would also cut out After the Ordeal, a rather forgettable instrumental. And honestly, as much as I like the 3 then remaining tracks (with Aisle Of Plenty viewed as a part of the Cinema Show), all 3 would benefit from some shortening. Hey, and now we have enough space to add Twilight Alehouse ... Edited by Grubert - February 19 2020 at 01:34 |
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20512 |
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Alehouse dates from well before SEBTP and should be included on Cryme or Foxtrot once you've taken the weak tracks out
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LAM-SGC ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 26 2018 Location: se Status: Offline Points: 1550 |
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The corny lyrics and stupid attempts at accents by middle class arty types about a gang battle made every working class London kid cringe when we heard it. Credibility? Yes, you had none in my school if you liked that song. |
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20512 |
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The song is a spoof. who cares about if the sung accent are not 100%, the texts are hilarious - by far the funniest of all Genesis tracks - and easily their top "rock opera" song of theirs - as opposed to the poor Harold The Barrel, the flawed Get Them Out, the rather good Assault & Battery and the OK All In A Mouse's Night. Harold Demure From Art & Litterature Bob The Knob Smacks across the gob Bob The Knob Came Out on the job Mick The Prick Fresh Out of Nick Saw a sign "Beautiful Chest" Lead me to a lady who showed me her best |
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Grubert ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: January 20 2020 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 143 |
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Yeah, I know, and its style would not fit that well with SEBTP, and I assume it was recorded earlier, in the Foxtrot sessions most likely. But whatever, the 3 shorter songs on SEBTP feel indeed like fillers for me, and actually the 4 "epic" songs are long enough to make an album. But Epic Forest is, like I mentioned before, one that I do not enjoy, it hasn't an interesting melody. The 2 previous albums are good like they are, and are also the 2 I like the most from Genesis. Of course there would have been space on Nursery Crime to include Alehouse, and I think that it was in their live set at the time they recorded that album.
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20512 |
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I understand Alehuse already existed in one form or another in the Tresspass days . Next to The Knife, it sounds better than next to Firth or Cinema
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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Sacreledge! Extend FOF out to 20 minutes, cinema show 23 mins DWTMK 20 mins and Forest to 22 mins....chop the rest...you prog heretic. . Edited by M27Barney - February 19 2020 at 07:19 |
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BaldJean ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
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I totally agree "Twilight Alehouse" should be put on "Nursery Cryme", as well as the single "Happy the Man". Friede and I actually created our own version of NC with first HTM and then TA following the original 7 tracks. oh, and for me there are no weak tracks on NC. "short and simple" does not equal "weak" at all, "short and simple" is part of the art for me
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