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Argo2112 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2017 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 4462 |
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We all know about the " Big Six "of prog. Someone recently had a thread asking for peoples second tier bands & most of those seem to come from the late 60's to mid 70's. (Gentle Giant, Camel, VDGG,.....)
My question is who would be your "big six" bands that started releasing material after 1979. (The post 70's prog era.)
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43248 |
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A good question which I find hard to answer, so I'll leave it to others in the progosphere to decide, who are far more knowledgeable about modern prog than I am. I could give a list of which six modern prog bands I like best of all, although I doubt if anyone would agree with me that they should be in a first tier "Big Six" list of modern prog bands.
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617 |
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Marillion and 5 others.
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Argo2112 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2017 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 4462 |
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^ Yea, That's what I think most people will say.
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21290 |
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First guess, though I think this will be a lot more spread out than the 70's. Marillion
Dream Theater Anglagard Porcupine Tree Opeth Rush |
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Dellinger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12808 |
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I think it's 3 undisputed ones: Marillion, Porcupine Tree, and Dream Theater. Then we can try to go further, and it can become tricky.
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emisan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 08 2014 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 262 |
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Spock's Beard/Neal Morse
Marillion IQ The Flower Kings Porcupine Tree/Steven Wilson The Tangent |
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Gerinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5154 |
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Marillion
IQ Dream Theater
Spock's Beard/Neal Morse The Flower Kings Porcupine Tree/Steven Wilson |
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JD ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 07 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18446 |
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Spock's Beard Dream Theater Djam Karet After Crying Pineapple Thief Anekdoten |
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21290 |
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I wouldn't include Spocks Beard or The Flower Kings, each only has one 4 star album with large discographies.
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Grumpyprogfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 09 2019 Location: Kansas City Status: Offline Points: 12368 |
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Really, really hard to pick only six. Big Big Train Izz Frost* The Aristocrats Thank You Scientist Riverside Others.... The Psychedelic Ensemble Mike Keneally Echolyn Sanguine Hum Thieves' Kitchen Haken Spock's Beard Dream Theater
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Quinino ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 26 2011 Location: Portugal Status: Offline Points: 3654 |
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Anathema Anekdoten Airbag Anubis Anglagard Arena ... to be continued.
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dougmcauliffe ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 23 2019 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 3895 |
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Dream Theater
Opeth Anglagard Porcupine Tree Marillion Wobbler |
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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Eh? Both have produced some of the best symphonic prog since 1975....definately in the six.. IQ DREAM THEATER FLOWER KINGS SPOCKS BEARD STEVE HACKETT THE TANGENT .... |
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Spock’s Beard and Flower Kings are parody prog
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Manuel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 09 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13481 |
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I would put The Flower Kings in the big six, and Spock's Beard would be number 7. Mike Keneally, I Am the Morning, The Aristocrats, Pocupine Tree and Tricantropous would be the other five. If we count new bands formed by old timers, then The Steve Hackett Band and The Martin Barre Band would top the list. Of course this is my personal list, and I know many will not agree, and that's ok I guess.
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15139 |
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My personal list would probably be something like... Cardiacs - Talk Talk - Swans - North Sea Radio Orchestra - Tortoise - Porcupine Tree. If I think of an "official big 6" defined by innovation, influence, impact, and some kind of centrality to prog, Porcupine Tree would still be there. Cardiacs and Talk Talk tick all boxes except centrality (what ever that is); even Tortoise and Swans don't seem to be too far off. Anyway, I'd probably not vote against one of Dream Theater or Opeth, Anekdoten, IQ. I love iamthemorning and After Crying, but they're probably also not so central to the genre. Marillion is accepted grudgingly. I'm somewhat surprised Mars Volta, Tool and Radiohead haven't been nominated yet, but fair enough, they won't tick centrality either, except Mars Volta may, just about. I'd like to see post/math rock represented and if you don't want Talk Talk or Tortoise, Goodspeed You Black Emperor, Sigur Ros, and Battles could also be contenders. Mr. Bungle is also super awesome.
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13215 |
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There's a sad single sentence commentary on prog, post-1980.
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YESESIS ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2017 Location: Maine Status: Offline Points: 2215 |
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Marillion, Spock's Beard.. umm.. Dream Theater and Porcupine Tree.. I've run out of bands, sorry.
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21290 |
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If we look at how many top 100 albums bands have had and how many ratings bands have for top 100 albums we get
Top 100 Albums (2nd sort by # of rankings) Porcupine Tree / S Wilson - 5 Opeth - 5 Marillion - 3 Riverside - 3 Cardiacs - 3 Dream Theater - 2 Rush - 2 Anglagard - 2 Pain Of Salvation - 2 Phideaux - 2 Top 100 album rankings Porcupine Tree / S Wilson - 10183 Opeth - 6199 Dream Theater - 5737 Marillion - 5368 Rush - 4762 Riverside - 4110 Anglagard - 2738 Pain Of Salvation - 2362 Phideaux - 1788 Big Big Train - 1751
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