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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43665 |
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Funnily enough, I was listening to Starship's Greatest Hits album last night and I noticed Grace Slick is the only original member from the Jefferson Airplane days. I also love the four albums she made with Paul Kantner:- Blows Against the Empire (1970); Sunfighter (1971); Baron Von Tollbooth & the Chrome Nun (1973); & the Planet Earth Rock & Roll Orchestra (1983)
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20436 |
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the three solo album Kantner did with Slick (mother of his child China - "gracing" ![]() While Grace was instrumental in giving Jeff Starship an interesting (byt no more) discography, I can hardly forgive her for entering Starship ![]() ![]() |
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43665 |
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^^ I agree that the Arena Rock of Starship isn't to every Grace Slick fan's taste, but they are my cup of tea, and I like my tea with sugar.
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20436 |
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I knew you were Svetonio and we've just unmasked you ![]() Real brits drink their tea with that ever-famous "cloud of milk"
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43665 |
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^^ Yes, I always drink my tea with milk and sugar, but I've no idea who Svetonio is.
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Janice was the greatest white female vocalist of all time, which means she was the greatest female vocalist of all time. Luv dem blues!
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Janice from Friends?
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Not too big a fan of Airplane, but in love with: ![]() & ![]() So many great people from the San Francisco area meeting up to do those albums in the transition between Airplane & Starship. Anyway Janis for a million other reasons. |
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Svetonio thinks MOR is PROG ![]() |
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43665 |
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I could suggest Grace Slick for inclusion in the Prog-Related section of Prog Archives, but she's almost bound to be rejected for inclusion, given my past record of rejected suggestions.
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18146 |
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JA was, for many, a bit too much ... I think the fact that their members were so different and caused so much different music, made it difficult to appreciate, and when they became "political" they brought out one of the ugliest side of those days ... in Madison, there were issues between left and right, and they were ugly ... and even caused one to blame the other for blowing up this or that ... and of course, it's hard to mention the death of a student immortalized by one song ... and then, the worst happened, which pretty much was to kill JA ... the day that Marty got hit in the face and Grace came close to not only getting hit but also jumped on ... and many other moments, that showed the worst of American politics and their extremes. And issues between Marty and Paul did not exactly die, although they played with each other and complimented each other very well ... however, it was Grace's voice that worked some incredible stuff with Marty ... and those songs/hits are remembered today. Grace's books state she won't do "White Rabbit" ever again, and she hasn't to my knowledge and is "retired" from the music stuff, I think ... and her comments are ... not exactly the kind of criticism that we want to hear, but it tells you what she thinks of the folks that ruined SF and the scene with their flowers in their hair! Not to mention that most people had no idea what the song was really about!
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43665 |
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^^ I remember seeing Jefferson Airplane singer Marty Balin get punched in the face. That was at the disastrous Altamont Speedway concert in December 1969 when one of the Hells Angels providing "security" at the concert walked up on to the stage and punched Marty squarely in the jaw. A young black man was stabbed to death by a Hells Angel at the concert when he was seen approaching the stage with a gun in his hand while the Rolling Stones were performing.
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20436 |
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Don't remember much of an issue between Marty and Paul after reading Tamarkin's Got A Revolution book, because it is that duo that founded the Airplane (Marty owned a folk club in Frisco before that, place where he & Paul met) and Paul asked Marty in JS . However, Grace did have a problem with Marty, because he never allowed her to screw him (she even pounded hotel doors (she'd sone the wholeclassic line-up band, but never him), but it wasmore Marty having a jealousy about Grace's stage presence on stage
Yeah, that was filmed and is all over the web, but are you saying you were there at the time? |
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43665 |
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I was a little too young to have actually been at Altamont as I was only 10 years old at the time and I was about 3,000 miles away in England. I hadn't even heard of Altamont until around 2010 when I first went online. I saw the Woodstock festival too, but I wasn't actually there in person. I watched it nearly 50 years later on DVD.
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20436 |
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![]() ==================== PP/Svettie, I'm responsible for the Airplane being on PA, and it was quite a fight to get them in as proto-prog, and I'm still tryng to get Quicksilver Mess Service in.... I did consider make a package of Kantner & Slick as one single entry, and despite the Sci-Fi nature of Blows Against The Empire (which received a Juno for best Sci-fi oeuvre in 1970, first - and only - time for a record) and the other other two's Sci-fi light concept, but the time frame is not right for Proto-prog.... So if it does happen, it will have to be in Prog-related Edited by Sean Trane - November 20 2019 at 04:26 |
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@moshkito
Not too familiar with the political elements surrounding this, was brought up in a European context, mainly eating European music, only slowly digging into the US scene a decade later. American music was mainly Woodstok - Easy Rider and all the mainstream bullsh*t in my circle early 70's. Zappa and Jazz/Fusion next. The political elements of the movement was most likely quite different at continental Europe back then as it is also (more or less) today. In general you might say that even the democrats could be considered right wing where i come from, especially in the 70's. Edited by tamijo_II - November 20 2019 at 04:21 |
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