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The Miracle
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Posted: June 19 2005 at 13:36 |
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DarHobo
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Posted: June 19 2005 at 14:46 |
"Yeah, there are guitarists out there that are super fast, like
John Petrucci, but they are also super lame."
- Alexi Laiho
haha I just read that in an issue of guitar world, its so true.
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Tony R
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Joined: July 16 2004
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Posted: June 19 2005 at 14:51 |
DarHobo wrote:
"Yeah, there are guitarists out there that are super fast, like John Petrucci, but they are also super lame." - Alexi Laiho
haha I just read that in an issue of guitar world, its so true. |
because Alexi Laiho is the arbiter of taste for the music whole world is he...........?
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MikeEnRegalia
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Joined: April 22 2005
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Posted: June 19 2005 at 15:16 |
Tony R wrote:
DarHobo wrote:
"Yeah, there are guitarists out there that are super fast, like John Petrucci, but they are also super lame." - Alexi Laiho
haha I just read that in an issue of guitar world, its so true. |
because Alexi Laiho is the arbiter of taste for the music whole world is he...........?
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Children Of Bodom aren't exactly the foremost address for innovative guitar work.
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alan_pfeifer
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Posted: June 19 2005 at 15:49 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Garion81 wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
maidenrulez wrote:
6.They invented the best rhytmic sections in the world. (The gallopping thing.)
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Heart: Barracuda.
THEY invented that!
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No Kansas did Circa Leftoverature 1976. and no I din't read your other post. One lame thread is enough this morning. |
Barracuda was published in 1977, that's a close shave!
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It was Zeppelin who "invented" the groove with Achillies Last Stand. But read the man's comments, really.
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: June 19 2005 at 15:49 |
blah i have been talking about the band that is called DT and not dream theater...isnt that plainly obvious.
I dont know who gave you that idea that i was talking about dream theater.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Joined: April 22 2005
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Posted: June 19 2005 at 15:54 |
Who the .... is DT then?
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: June 19 2005 at 15:58 |
DT is a bit unknown rock band wich released a really crappy album...heres is the cover:
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Tony R
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Posted: June 19 2005 at 15:59 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Who the .... is DT then? |
Mike,I dont like your new avatar-that top is very distasteful,please remove it!
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Tony R
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Posted: June 19 2005 at 16:00 |
maidenrulez wrote:
DT is a bit unknown rock band wich released a really crappy album...heres is the cover:
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Bet it's lots better than Octavarium...
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Certif1ed
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Joined: April 08 2004
Location: England
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Posted: June 19 2005 at 16:12 |
Tony R wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Who the .... is DT then? |
Mike,I dont like your new avatar-that top is very distasteful,please remove it!
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I agree - it reminds me of a Bon Jovi album cover...
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: June 19 2005 at 16:13 |
Certif1ed wrote:
Tony R wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Who the .... is DT then? |
Mike,I dont like your new avatar-that top is very distasteful,please remove it!
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I agree - it reminds me of a Bon Jovi album cover...
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You all don't know that cover, do you?
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hdfisch
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Joined: December 25 2004
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Posted: June 19 2005 at 18:05 |
I agree partly on these points.Though #1 refers as well to Metallica and some other Metal bands.#9 is correct but some diversity would not harm to IM's music (actually I like much of their stuff,as well Dickinson solo).#10 I agree as well partly, might be correct seen by a Heavy Metal fan, but for a ProgMetal fan DT is better live, at least when Mr. LaBrie has a good day!
Actually I don't get the point at all how someone can have the idea to create such a thread. To compare two bands that are obviously that much different from each other is absolutely ridiculous and is just proving that the person doing such a comparison has absolutely no idea about music.
IRON MAIDEN IS AN EXCELLENT HEAVY METAL BAND and
DREAM THEATER IS AN EXCELLENT PROG METAL BAND!
Got it, MaidenRulez?And please stop posting such stupid threads! (Or go to a pure Metal forum!)
maidenrulez wrote:
1.They got a better vocalist.
9.They dont make sentimental ballads.
10.They are much better live. |
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DarHobo
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Joined: June 16 2005
Location: United States
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Posted: June 19 2005 at 18:24 |
Tony R wrote:
DarHobo wrote:
"Yeah, there are guitarists out there that are super fast, like John Petrucci, but they are also super lame." - Alexi Laiho
haha I just read that in an issue of guitar world, its so true. |
because Alexi Laiho is the arbiter of taste for the music whole world is he...........?
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No, because he stated his opinion which I find to be True. Being a guitarist myself I prefer musicians like Steve Hillage and David Gilmour to John Petrucci, with his gameboyesque shredding, and 14 year old fanbase who are so amazed "OmG JoHN PetrUCCI PlaYs LyKE 12npS!!!111111." At least other shredders like Michael Romeo dont overly wank with a lame alternate picked line for 12 measures.
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DarHobo
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Posted: June 19 2005 at 18:25 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Tony R wrote:
DarHobo wrote:
"Yeah, there are guitarists out there that are super fast, like John Petrucci, but they are also super lame." - Alexi Laiho
haha I just read that in an issue of guitar world, its so true. |
because Alexi Laiho is the arbiter of taste for the music whole world is he...........?
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Children Of Bodom aren't exactly the foremost address for innovative guitar work.
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True, but they rock oh so much harder then Dream Theater ever can and will.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: June 19 2005 at 18:33 |
DarHobo wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Tony R wrote:
DarHobo wrote:
"Yeah, there are guitarists out there that are super fast, like John Petrucci, but they are also super lame." - Alexi Laiho
haha I just read that in an issue of guitar world, its so true. |
because Alexi Laiho is the arbiter of taste for the music whole world is he...........?
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Children Of Bodom aren't exactly the foremost address for innovative guitar work.
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True, but they rock oh so much harder then Dream Theater ever can and will.
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And Strapping Young Lad rock even harder than every other band I know, including Children Of Bodom. That doesn't change the fact that their guitarist is nothing special.
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DarHobo
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Posted: June 19 2005 at 18:44 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
DarHobo wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Tony R wrote:
DarHobo wrote:
"Yeah, there are guitarists out there that are super fast, like John Petrucci, but they are also super lame." - Alexi Laiho
haha I just read that in an issue of guitar world, its so true. |
because Alexi Laiho is the arbiter of taste for the music whole world is he...........?
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Children Of Bodom aren't exactly the foremost address for innovative guitar work.
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True, but they rock oh so much harder then Dream Theater ever can and will.
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And Strapping Young Lad rock even harder than every other band I know, including Children Of Bodom. That doesn't change the fact that their guitarist is nothing special.
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Cryptopsy are even harder rocking then Strapping Young Lad And John Petrucci still produces dull guitar lines similar to a pinball machine after you obtain a highscore.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Joined: April 22 2005
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Posted: June 19 2005 at 18:50 |
DarHobo wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
DarHobo wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Tony R wrote:
DarHobo wrote:
"Yeah, there are guitarists out there that are super fast, like John Petrucci, but they are also super lame." - Alexi Laiho
haha I just read that in an issue of guitar world, its so true. |
because Alexi Laiho is the arbiter of taste for the music whole world is he...........?
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Children Of Bodom aren't exactly the foremost address for innovative guitar work.
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True, but they rock oh so much harder then Dream Theater ever can and will.
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And Strapping Young Lad rock even harder than every other band I know, including Children Of Bodom. That doesn't change the fact that their guitarist is nothing special.
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Cryptopsy are even harder rocking then Strapping Young Lad And John Petrucci still produces dull guitar lines similar to a pinball machine after you obtain a highscore.
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Go ask a musician whom you trust whether Petrucci plays dull guitar lines. Let me know what he said ...
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DarHobo
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 16 2005
Location: United States
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Posted: June 19 2005 at 19:05 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
DarHobo wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
DarHobo wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Tony R wrote:
DarHobo wrote:
"Yeah, there are guitarists out there that are super fast, like John Petrucci, but they are also super lame." - Alexi Laiho
haha I just read that in an issue of guitar world, its so true. |
because Alexi Laiho is the arbiter of taste for the music whole world is he...........?
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Children Of Bodom aren't exactly the foremost address for innovative guitar work.
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True, but they rock oh so much harder then Dream Theater ever can and will.
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And Strapping Young Lad rock even harder than every other band I know, including Children Of Bodom. That doesn't change the fact that their guitarist is nothing special.
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Cryptopsy are even harder rocking then Strapping Young Lad And John Petrucci still produces dull guitar lines similar to a pinball machine after you obtain a highscore.
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Go ask a musician whom you trust whether Petrucci plays dull guitar lines. Let me know what he said ...
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John Petrucci is, at best, a good player. The thing is, as a 'technical' guitar player, he is probably the most overrated player ever! He isn't that good of a shredder, period. And this comes from a big DT fan who would defend him to death just a few months ago...
Besides, he stepped on his own tail and tried to pull out stuff that's way harder than what he can play! His performance on the new Dream Theater DVD is very dissapointing. He messed up on just about every 'shred' section on all of his songs! And his clean solos on Solitary Shell and Hollow Years... well, besides hitting the wrong notes a lot, his string action is so stupidly low that his clean tone is terrible! I could hear nothing but fret buzz... a shame. He's way too sloppy for what he tries to play.
I have to say he's a alright songwriter, though. But he should have taken a Valium a long time ago and not try to give Michael Angelo a run for his money, cuz it didn't work...
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greenback
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Posted: June 19 2005 at 19:05 |
maidenrulez wrote:
1.They got a better vocalist. FALSE!!
2.They are better at making flawless timechanges. FALSE!
3.Their guitarists have more melodic solos. TRUE!
4.They sound more symphonic. NONE OF THE 2 SOUND SYMPHONIC!
5.They have some of the best and most original sounding riffs in metal history. (Supposedly because of steve is composing on bass.) TRUE!
6.They invented the best rhytmic sections in the world. (The gallopping thing.) MAYBE!
7.The coolest bass sound on earth. TRUE!
8.Better lyrics. I DON'T CARE, BUT TRUE PROBABLY BECAUSE DICKINSON HAS A HISTORY DEGREE!
9.They dont make sentimental ballads. THIS DOES NOT MAKE THEM BETTER!
10.They are much better live. DUNNO!
SHALL I ADD: DT MAKE SLOWER MUSIC BUT MORE PROGRESSIVE & COMPLEX PATTERNS
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