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    Posted: June 19 2005 at 05:50

1.They got a better vocalist.

2.They are better at making flawless timechanges.

3.Their guitarists have more melodic solos.

4.They sound more symphonic.

5.They have some of the best and most original sounding riffs in metal history. (Supposedly because of steve is composing on bass.)

6.They invented the best rhytmic sections in the world. (The gallopping thing.)

7.The coolest bass sound on earth.

8.Better lyrics.

9.They dont make sentimental ballads.

10.They are much better live.
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Points: 208 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2005 at 06:01

I had thought we were running a little low on Dream Theater threads (i.e., hate reasoning, comparisons, and/or praise).

Thanks for supplying us with yet another tremendous topic, and I disagree with all of your reasons except numbers four and six.
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who's IM
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Points: 81 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2005 at 06:14
Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

who's IM


+1

who are they
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HIM ???  
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Iron Maiden...at least I think thats who he means...
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Points: 11979 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2005 at 06:42
Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

1.They got a better vocalist.

2.They are better at making flawless timechanges.

3.Their guitarists have more melodic solos.

4.They sound more symphonic.

5.They have some of the best and most original sounding riffs in metal history. (Supposedly because of steve is composing on bass.)

6.They invented the best rhytmic sections in the world. (The gallopping thing.)

7.The coolest bass sound on earth.

8.Better lyrics.

9.They dont make sentimental ballads.

10.They are much better live.

Jeezus Tap-Dancing Kerrrissst!

I'm just off to douse myself in petrol and end this miserable existence........
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Originally posted by GrahamK GrahamK wrote:

Iron Maiden...at least I think thats who he means...

. . . that's who I thought, too.
"Don't listen to me."

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Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

1.They got a better vocalist. More melodic yes. Labrie is MUCH better live

2.They are better at making flawless timechanges. Ahhh......not even close, not even the same
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3.Their guitarists have more melodic solos. Agreed, but Adrian and Dave feed off each other,
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4.They sound more symphonic.  Need your deffinition of "Symphonic"  and a couple
                                                  comparrisons to comment

5.They have some of the best and most original sounding riffs in metal history. (Supposedly because of steve is composing on bass.) Deffinatly some classic Riffs, agreed....some of the
                                                               best metal riffs around,  DT isn't metal though, at least
                                                              in the 80's traditional sense

6.They invented the best rhytmic sections in the world. (The gallopping thing.) Agreed...again
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7.The coolest bass sound on earth. For speed yeah....the pattended machine gun Bass
                                                       For diversity and skil? Myung has Harris beat hands down

8.Better lyrics.  Subjective, I probably like Maidens lyrics better because they are RL story
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9.They dont make sentimental ballads.  Because they're a Metal band

10.They are much better live.  Ahhh...ya saved the best for last.  I've seen Maiden 3 times,
                                               Piece of Mind, Powerslave, 7th son.  I've seen DT 4 times,
                                               twice "An Evening with".  DT is IMHO,  hands down, not even
                                               close, the best live band I've ever seen. Technically better
                                               Musicians by far than Maiden.



Was A Maiden fan long before DT hit the scene....that being said.......I would categorize them totally seperatly.  Maiden is more mainstream radio friendly Metal.  DT is more progressive Hard rock, with splashes of metal.  Both great bands in their respective sub-genre's
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Points: 876 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2005 at 08:40

Oh no...not another DT bashing thread....

AM SO (yawning) BORED OF THIS sh*t ON THIS SITE

Can we get off DT for one bloody second everyone??

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
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this is even dumber than the animals vs octavarium thread
dead things don't talk too well, they've got a shaky sense of diction.
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Points: 3254 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2005 at 08:58

 Just could not resist....ah well sorry but i compared IRON MAIDEN to the artist DT not dream theater.

DREADFUL ARTIST REALLY
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Points: 21202 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2005 at 09:27
Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

6.They invented the best rhytmic sections in the world. (The gallopping thing.)

Heart: Barracuda.

THEY invented that!
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Points: 21202 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2005 at 09:41

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

1.They got a better vocalist.

He has a more variable voice and a little more edge to it ... but LaBrie is no slouch.

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

2.They are better at making flawless timechanges.

Ridiculous. They play far less complicated music than DT. And what flaws in DT's playing are you talking about ... I've been at many concerts and they NEVER made any mistakes as far as timechanges are concerned.

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

3.Their guitarists have more melodic solos.

Also not true. Both have melodic solos. You can choose 10 IM songs without melodic solos, as well as 10 melodic DT songs.

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

4.They sound more symphonic.

Rubbish. When do IM ever sound symphonic? Blind Guardian sound symphonic (classical), Spock's Beard sound symphonic (as in symphonic prog). IM sound more metal, that's all.

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

5.They have some of the best and most original sounding riffs in metal history. (Supposedly because of steve is composing on bass.)

Agreed. But so do DT, and bands like Symphony X surpass both when it comes to great riffs.

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

6.They invented the best rhytmic sections in the world. (The gallopping thing.)

That rhythm is as old as music itself. Listen to Am I Evil (Original or the Metallica version) ... the riff from the fast part is amazing. Or listen to Master Of Puppets (the song).

If there's a thing that IM are famous for, then it's their 2 guitar rhythmic work, e.g. Aces High. And the riff from Number Of The Beast is a classic, too. But they're clearly not THE band that invented riffing.

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

7.The coolest bass sound on earth.

It's quite nice, but again ... easily argueable. This one clearly is a matter of taste.

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

8.Better lyrics.

Maybe ... certainly different. They're more direct.

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

9.They dont make sentimental ballads.

Yes ... that's a negative thing, isn't it? It clearly shows that DT are more diverse. Bruce Dickinson made a number of ballads, just not with Iron Maiden. And I recently read an interview where he indirectly complains about the rigid song writing process of IM. I highly recommend his newest solo record!

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

10.They are much better live.

You may be right ... for musicians, DT are better. For the average metal fan, DT are boring - at least the 3 hour sets they normaly play.
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Points: 21202 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2005 at 09:45

Originally posted by gabbel ratchett gabbel ratchett wrote:

this is even dumber than the animals vs octavarium thread

Agreed ... and why does he still have Octavarium as his avatar while at the same time bashing them whenever there's a chance? 



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Iron Maiden = the suck. 
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Big Time. 
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Iron Maiden are IMHO one of the 10 best metal bands of all times.
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Yes but not ProgMetal.
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