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Poll Question: Whos your favourite DC villain.
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    Posted: August 17 2019 at 04:13
There have been Batman vs Superman polls before but none about their main enemys. Their nr first villain. Their main nemesises. Two enigmatic character whom in different ways fights their Superheroic counterpart with all means messeserry. The cold, intellect and caluculative Machiavellian approach by Lex Luthor, who battles a nigh-invulerable Superman with the only way possible with incredible intellegance sn psycoparhic means
Ot the Joker the mad, Psychotic and chaos incarnate villain of the dark knight.

whos your favourite villain.
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An other memorable villain is Vandal Savage and Deathstroke
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The Joker is probably one of the greatest villains of all time so my vote goes to him.
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Hi,

Was never into comic books ... besides the fact that in Brazil we couldn't afford them, and a loaf of bread was more important than a "geebee" as we called it down there!
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Lex Luthor, as played by Gene Hackman.   The Joker, as played by Jack Nicholson.  All the rest can take a number.
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I like that guy that portraid Lex in the tv series Smallville, he was looking the part and grew very much into hes role.
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The Joker, of course.
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Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

Lex Luthor, as played by Gene Hackman.   The Joker, as played by Jack Nicholson.  All the rest can take a number.
 

As a lifelong fan, I found Jack's Joker was a riff on Cesar's, while Heath's Joker raised the bar much higher and didn't owe his origin to the Golden Age Joker.
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Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

An other memorable villain is Vandal Savage and Deathstroke
 

Great villains, indeed, along with Ra's al Ghul, Bane, Scarecrow, Hush and an obscure one called the Wraith.

Batman has the greatest rogues' gallery of any character.
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

As a lifelong fan, I found Jack's Joker was a riff on Cesar's, while Heath's Joker raised the bar much higher and didn't owe his origin to the Golden Age Joker.
 
Heath's Joker did very little for me.  I know I'm in the minority on this one but I thought his acting looked and felt too staged and over done.  Example - that excessive lip licking.  Too much imo.  I'm not giving Jack a pass on his portrayal, I just thought his 'maniac' was little more real.  A little more believable.
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^I feel the same way. Jack was a better Joker all-around and imho truer to the comic books...then again the Burton flicks were like that (also voted for the Joker in this poll btw).
The fact that Heath died shortly after the film effectively conjured up a ‘James Dean-like’ wave of appreciation. He was good too...just not Jack Nicholson good imo.

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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

An other memorable villain is Vandal Savage and Deathstroke
 

Great villains, indeed, along with Ra's al Ghul, Bane, Scarecrow, Hush and an obscure one called the Wraith.

Batman has the greatest rogues' gallery of any character.
General Zod is also quite an intimdating villain. And Some other Superman villains are interesting on a philosphical and badassery level, like Brainiac and Bisarro
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Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

An other memorable villain is Vandal Savage and Deathstroke
 

Great villains, indeed, along with Ra's al Ghul, Bane, Scarecrow, Hush and an obscure one called the Wraith.

Batman has the greatest rogues' gallery of any character.
General Zod is also quite an intimdating villain. And Some other Superman villains are interesting on a philosphical and badassery level, like Brainiac and Bisarro
 

I concur; Zod, Brainiac, Bizarro, Metallo, Parasite, Mongul, Doomsday — classic Supervillains.
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

^I feel the same way. Jack was a better Joker all-around and imho truer to the comic books...then again the Burton flicks were like that (also voted for the Joker in this poll btw).
The fact that Heath died shortly after the film effectively conjured up a ‘James Dean-like’ wave of appreciation. He was good too...just not Jack Nicholson good imo.
 

If you want to stick to the Golden/Silver Age, Cesar Romero's Joker > Jack's. The latter was emulating the former. 

Jack did fine, but he wasn't really into the role. He did it for the money. He'd arrive for his take with commentary gold like "Another day...another fifty grand!"

But it was time for an update, and Heath delivered. The lip-licking facet just made him more freaky, as did the self-inflicted scars. 

In DC's recent New 52 reboot (since retconned by Rebirth), Joker had a completely peeled face that he wore like a mask.
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Tim Burton's first Batman was the first movie I watched at the cinema.

I was possibly the smallest person -9 years old probably- in the cinema, and I was sitting in the very front row (as I didn't know it is better to be in the near middle).

Oh boy, how scared I was. The movie theatre was a dark, decorated, antique and huge building with a very tall ceiling. It added to the freaky atmosphere. [Even its name is Efes Sineması (Ephesus Movie Theatre).]

So Jack Nicholson's "The Joker" was an appalling trauma for me. He was in my nightmares possibly everyday for a year.

As a fan of Skeletor of MOTU, such obscene psychopathy and evil was too much for me then.

Never been thrilled by Heath's "The Joker". It was convincing and all, yet a typical outcast psychopath.

Nicholson's Batman was like non-human. Even the last scene was suspicious. It was "The Joker" right? Something supernatural could have happened.

Also as a villain sympathizer, that "The Joker" is probably the only villain towards whom I felt sheer antipathy.

Michael Keaton was my hero, as you can guess. Hug




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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

^I feel the same way. Jack was a better Joker all-around and imho truer to the comic books...then again the Burton flicks were like that (also voted for the Joker in this poll btw).
The fact that Heath died shortly after the film effectively conjured up a ‘James Dean-like’ wave of appreciation. He was good too...just not Jack Nicholson good imo.
 

If you want to stick to the Golden/Silver Age, Cesar Romero's Joker > Jack's. The latter was emulating the former. 

Jack did fine, but he wasn't really into the role. He did it for the money. He'd arrive for his take with commentary gold like "Another day...another fifty grand!"

But it was time for an update, and Heath delivered. The lip-licking facet just made him more freaky, as did the self-inflicted scars. 

In DC's recent New 52 reboot (since retconned by Rebirth), Joker had a completely peeled face that he wore like a mask.

I know (most of) this and still prefer Jack
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It's all good. I like having options. I'm looking forward to seeing Matt Reeves' Batman film. I hope we see villains who have yet to appear on the silver screen.
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

An other memorable villain is Vandal Savage and Deathstroke
 

Great villains, indeed, along with Ra's al Ghul, Bane, Scarecrow, Hush and an obscure one called the Wraith.

Batman has the greatest rogues' gallery of any character.
General Zod is also quite an intimdating villain. And Some other Superman villains are interesting on a philosphical and badassery level, like Brainiac and Bisarro
 

I concur; Zod, Brainiac, Bizarro, Metallo, Parasite, Mongul, Doomsday — classic Supervillains.
and Darkseid. I am biassed cause i love thd Fourth World saga and anything New Gods related and does not nessecarily need Superman as opposing Darkseid, Orion is as interesting IMO if done right, Mf Miracle is one of the best designed superheroes out there. And in Darkseid one get an awesome, versitile villian whom is complex yet can work well as a team buster villain

Edited by Icarium - August 22 2019 at 15:22
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