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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tom Ozric Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2019 at 06:43
Not really familiar with Rubber Soul (!)...
And I, too, am a victim of the 28 min U.S.press of Revolver - I had a choice too, out of 3 or 4 versions, but I went for the U.S. one coz I liked the thick cardboard sleeve, only to find out when I got home, that several (excellent) tracks were left off. Hard to fully enjoy the truncated version.

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I prefer Rubber Soul to Revolver as of the right now but I have gone back and forth for years on which one I like best.

Many people will point to Revolver because of the acid rock style of tape loop collages, backward tape music which was not the norm for rock bands in early 1966 and the pretty of the left-field instrumentation on songs as "Eleanor Rigby" or "Love You To". I could see how this had an influence on psychedelic/prog rock music on a whole as we are still talking 1966 and not 1969.  

Rubber Soul to me is perfecting the folk and country influences with rock music they started on Beatles For Sale which interestingly predicts what The Byrds would make their own afterwards. The R&B influences are still there as well as George Harrison 12 string sound. 

New sounds come from maybe the most heavy bass track in rock music at that time in "Think For Yourself" and the sitar "Norwegian Wood" which would a become major sound in psychedelic rock. You hear the prototypical lyrical hippie song "The Word" which contains some psychedelic sounding harmonium parts. Some of the songs have interesting uses of mode mixture like "Norwegian Wood" and "Think For Yourself. 

Walter Everett comments on the book The Beatles As Musicians Revolver Through The Anthology that the experimental nature of both Rubber Soul and Revolver were the key albums that would influence musicians that would eventually create Progressive Rock 

The American version of Rubber Soul was the one that caught the ears of people like Brian Wilson and Ray Manzarek for example. 


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Revolver. Rubber Soul has some lesser songs. The former is my 3rd favorite behind White Album and Abbey Road, while I also like MMT, Sgt. Pepper's and A Hard Day's Night more than Rubber Soul.
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I like them both. Revolver sounds like the natural progression from Rubber Soul.
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Rubber Soul is the oldest of the Beatles albums I have in my collection.  I like Revolver a lot as well, so I'll give it to revolver because as you know tomorrow never knows. Tongue
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Rubber Soul transitional, Revolver transformational.


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Revolver to me is a more complete album. Rubber Soul is a little hit & miss IMO.
If you go with the American release ( add I've Just seen a face & remove Drive my car) I think it's closer but Revolver would still get my vote.  


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I used to prefer Rubber Soul for the sheer beauty of the songwriting, but nowadays I just love the experimentation of Revolver.
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Rubber Soul - Revolver has never had as many standout tracks for me and I think it's a bit overrated. I like some of the later stuff but I have a soft spot for the mid-range era of albums (like Help and Soul).
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Originally posted by Howard the Duck Howard the Duck wrote:

Rubber Soul - Revolver has never had as many standout tracks for me and I think it's a bit overrated. I like some of the later stuff but I have a soft spot for the mid-range era of albums (like Help and Soul).


Overrated? No stand out track? 

I was actually alive when Revolver was released and my older brother had it....it is still my favorite Beatles album

Taxman?
Eleanor Rigby isn't a stand out track? It maybe the greatest composition that's ever been recorded in the history of popular music...20th and 21st century included (IMHO).
I'm Only Sleeping?
Love You To?
Here There Everywhere?
Yellow Submarine...OK, it's a kids' song, but hey, it still stands out.
She Said She Said?
Good Day Sunshine?
And Your Bird Can Sing?
For No One?
Doctor Robert......OK, I have found one that definitely doesn't stand out, Dr Robert is the weakest Beatles track of their entire career (IMHO)
I Want To Tell You?
Got To Get You Into My Life?
Tomorrow Never Knows?
.....Hmm some people have very high standards when it comes to standout tracks!




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Originally posted by BarryGlibb BarryGlibb wrote:

Originally posted by Howard the Duck Howard the Duck wrote:

Rubber Soul - Revolver has never had as many standout tracks for me and I think it's a bit overrated. I like some of the later stuff but I have a soft spot for the mid-range era of albums (like Help and Soul).


Overrated? No stand out track? 

I was actually alive when Revolver was released and my older brother had it....it is still my favorite Beatles album

Taxman?
Eleanor Rigby isn't a stand out track? It maybe the greatest composition that's ever been recorded in the history of popular music...20th and 21st century included (IMHO).
I'm Only Sleeping?
Love You To?
Here There Everywhere?
Yellow Submarine...OK, it's a kids' song, but hey, it still stands out.
She Said She Said?
Good Day Sunshine?
And Your Bird Can Sing?
For No One?
Doctor Robert......OK, I have found one that definitely doesn't stand out, Dr Robert is the weakest Beatles track of their entire career (IMHO)
I Want To Tell You?
Got To Get You Into My Life?
Tomorrow Never Knows?
.....Hmm some people have very high standards when it comes to standout tracks!


Everyone has different tastes, I can think of quite a few Beatle songs worse than Dr Robert, starting with Mr Moonlight.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BaldJean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2019 at 05:26
I slightly prefer "Revolver" to "Rubber Soul" but love both. but my favorite album of The Beatles is "The White Album" due to the incredible versatility of tracks. a true prog album! in my opinion an album is prog even if every single song is simple but stylistically the album is all over the place. and that is the case with "The White Album".

another album like that is for example Robert Calvert's "Lucky Leif and the Longships"


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Howard the Duck Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2019 at 06:15
Well I'm the kind of person who, for whatever reason, tends to be unmoved by some of the best-known and well-loved Beatles songs - and  Eleanor Rigby is a very good example of that for me.

Also I don't actually mind Dr. Robert, but I have a soft spot for John's songs with those kinds of guitar chords.

John's songs in general I tend to prefer (he also had some great tracks on his solo albums, esp. the first 2). George's songs come in 2nd, but I don't tend to like much of his solo work. Paul comes in third, but some of his early solo is also decent.

I actually feel that both John and Paul's vocals were at their strongest on their first two solo albums - and I'm not just saying that because they're now isolated from their fellow beatles!


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote chopper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2019 at 08:11
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I slightly prefer "Revolver" to "Rubber Soul" but love both. but my favorite album of The Beatles is "The White Album" due to the incredible versatility of tracks. a true prog album! in my opinion an album is prog even if every single song is simple but stylistically the album is all over the place. and that is the case with "The White Album".
Yep, it's my favourite of theirs as well.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2019 at 00:31
Rubber Soul as it's probably their most consistent in terms of quality right through. After that there was more experimentation with some fantastic results but less consistency overall imo
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AZF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2019 at 08:55
Argh! This thread has got The Word in my head and only Got To Get You Into My Life can drown out. That's better.
Off the fence to avoid a tie. Rubber Soul is really very, very good. If Sgt. Pepper obscured Revolver then Revolver obscured Rubber Soul.
Rubber Soul the better Beatles album ever. And then came the streak of Revolver, Sgt.Pepper then the White Album The Beatles and Abbey Road.
Gets impossible to pinpoint exact difference. But
Revolver.
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I agree with Mr. Martin - I see them as two sides of the same coin.  
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It's hard to say which is my favourite album between Rubber Soul and Revolver, but Abbey Road is my favourite Beatles album overall. Smile
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