The Strange Omissions of the Archives

Oh I love Chrome but am not going to get all upset if this site isn't willing to label them "prog".

AND what it all meant in a larger sphere of experience.

Too many of the folks in PA have come from the hit making school of listening to music, and they are not capable of handling a scene like SF or even "Krautrock", that has had so many bands thank SF for the inspiration, and its pretty obvious to me, why!

I'm a couple of years behind, Madison (WI) from 1965 to 1971, and then Santa Barbara from then on ... and I got to see most of those bands, and sadly enough, their demise as well ... and while I was not happy to see the name "Jefferson Airplane" disappear, the excitement of the new album by "Jefferson Starship" was massive, with at least a couple of outstanding pieces of music.

I wonder how much of it all had to do with KSAN and KMET/KLOS and their pull ... when those stations started losing their "fans" to hit making radio, those stations stopped fighting the establishment, and instead BECAME the establishment, by giving you the same crap over and over again ... and the two in LA would never again play a single of anything from those SF/LA bands!

Even Ken and the merry Pranksters were laughed about ... but look at them now ... much better respected and loved for their literary influence and history ... and the rock music? To the dumps with sites creating even more garbage for a definition and its history!

Weird that someone "separated" this, when so much of the music came from the Psych thing ... even the DOORS, and almost all of the SF bands. In fact, it was too many drugs, sex and rock music that killed a lot of people in SF a few years later, including some of the folks in radio that helped that scene live!

Drugs are, and have been, a large part of almost EVERY SINGLE ART PROCESS there is out there ... the only thing is that we make it a big deal with our judiciously __________ religiosity, that music and all the arts have to remain pristine and never ever have sex and abstain in favor of crap lyrics and moron singers that think they are telling a story and they are only singing "notes" ... a real singer doesn't do "notes" ... a real singer makes you live, die and cry all in one word!

The main issue I have, is that the folks "voting", are going for too many of their "favorites" and the gands they like ... after all ... c'mon ... read the first sentence or chapter in your Sociology 101 book ... that the majority of things done in America (hahaha!) are done by groups that are in effect doing the same thing that happens in the American House and American Senate. Pushing their agendas! What many of these folks MIGHT lack is an honest SUBJECTIVE opinion on music, and a general (GENERAL!) IDEA and educational idea of the history of music in various places, and its connection to the many other arts around them, which is a sort of another subject here of importance that is hidden, and totally ignored ... like folks in Theater are stupid, and folks in Film are morons, and folks in Literature are Venusians ... while some low ball rock'rs get some level of "importance" that is totally out of line with the arts and the comparisons side by side, show how bad some of these groups can be ... but Melody Maker loved them, because they wanted English bands to succeed in America and Europe!

Worse yet ... we believed them!

The bad part, and it still lingers today, is that "psych" has become a bad word ... and too many of our religioso grunts (zog, zog, zog, zog ... ) still think that drugs are bad, and continually make their ideas known in really weird ways ... regardless of drugs or religion ... IT'S ABOUT THE PERSON and their spirit of creativity ... and the drugs were/are a superficial thing ... and mostly related to their younger days ... 

But nah ... I think that too many folks look at "Psych" as some really bad stuff ... like some of the dope these days, with fake this and that to make you think that it is better than you know ... let's try it with Strawberry Alarm Shake Poop!

In fact these categories predate all the controversy over the inclusion and non-inclusion of artists, so they are not the problem per se. 

The problem was how categories were handled during a time (every category, not only proto and related), and the wild reasoning behind the inclusion of many of the most popular classic rock/metal bands from 60s and 70s (and some from the eighties) and the rejection of other bands with a fairly strict definition of prog. 

If you were in the forums (and I know you were), you could see that often the main argument that made these popular classic rock and metal bands being included was that some special collabs and admins of the time championed the inclusion for being avid fans of such bands, while others were ignored because they were not so popular and special collabs and admins of the time shrugged at them.

People were just not inclined to listen to what the others had to say at those days.

I disagree vehemently on Grateful Dead being on PA or considered progressive in any fashion. That is the definition of a blind squirrel finding a nut (in band form) to me. Almost like everyone wants to blend Psych, Proto, etc. together and start blending the "grey" areas versus being so black and white (both have their faults IMHO).

I.E. "Having your PA cake and eating it too".