The Strange Omissions of the Archives

f**king A man...

part of the dirty laundry ..and there is a lot of it this site has that few know.  I've seen many a band rejected for .. not being liked and god damnit man.. for someone like me who listened to more pure grade sh*t that was called prog that most of you all put together ....and brought it into the database on its merits musically.. rather than the quality of simply if I like it.. 

that really really burned my ass... and probably was one of the main points of conflict.. and there were more than a few.. with that cabal that made those decisions.

If we really need to go that deep we should be stepping toward the influences that came from places other than the rock/pop paradigm. Someone I always thought played a huge role in pushing boundaries is Raymond Scott. From creating a truly progressive sound with his quintet in the 30's and 40's to his electronics research with Bob Moog. 

^And if nothing else, based on the album cover you now know a babies head can be used for sound compression

The Tubes debut album is a prog album but I know they have been discussed to death for inclusion and always refused. Just too much fun to be a prog band.

I would like some of the English punk bands to be included especially The Stranglers. They were actually very popular with prog fans (as were The Tubes) which must say something.

Always been very fond of Al Stewart but not for Prog folk but rather Crossover.

If I could remove one band from PA it would be Queen. I was totally against their inclusion in the first place and still feel it is very misleading to include them just for Queen II which barely has anything to do with prog. Don't get me wrong though they were a fantastic band and one of the very best of the seventies just not a prog band.

Didn't even realise that XTC were not included ( they should be I would have thought). I only have English Settlement but the song about roundabouts is very amusing. I wonder if anyone not from Swindon ( my home town) actually 'gets' that song!

They've been cleared for addition for 2.5 months now, we're just waiting for them to be added.

If we're going to psychedelia, it would seem that Country Joe & The Fish should also be an addition....Assuredly one of the most psychedelic of them all....I am in absolute agreement that psych is one of the progenitors of prog, having witnessed it metamorphose in action (and all without LSD on my part  )

That's not how it happened. You and I have been through this a million times. Maybe for some bands but not as distinct genres. I actually can't think of many psych bands who turned into prog but I suppose there were some. Maybe Pink Floyd.

And I see your point, that is likely true, and definitely PF began as a psych band, no bout adoubt it, with them in particular.  I was merely speaking to the psych music movement laying the groundwork for prog, which maybe I mistakenly was thinking this thread was speaking about.  Thus I used the word, "progenitors."

That's not how it happened. You and I have been through this a million times. Maybe for some bands but not as distinct genres. I actually can't think of many psych bands who turned into prog but I suppose there were some. Maybe Pink Floyd.

And I see your point, that is likely true, and definitely PF began as a psych band, no bout adoubt it, with them in particular.  I was merely speaking to the psych music movement laying the groundwork for prog, which maybe I mistakenly was thinking this thread was speaking about.  Thus I used the word, "progenitors."

But there was still progressive elements even in that first PF album. It's just that the psychedelia overshadowed it. Psychedelic was popular before prog I'll give you that much.  Actually, prog didn't come out of nowhere and there were psych elements in a lot of the earlier stuff. Many of those earlier bands have been given the label proto prog. Of course nobody called them proto prog at the time. Some people even used the term classidelica apparently to refer to some of them.  Was there overlap between the two? Yep. Pink Floyd are also sometimes referred to as the fathers of space rock. Hawkwind's debut wasn't until 1970(great year ;) so PF had a headstart.