Boris Johnson wins leadership vote; becomes new PM

umm hmmm   this will be extremely interesting...  

Chaser wrote: It's going to be a lot of fun and, after all, isn't that what the British people want most of all?  Fun?   People are bored of the monotonous consumerist existence of the neo liberal dream.  They want to shake things up a bit.   I'm all for shaking things up and seeing where the pieces land.  Maybe it'll be better, maybe it'll be worse, but it'll be less boring, which is why I say bring on Boris and let's have a bit of entertainment

A nation in decline as entertainment? Sounds like fiddling while Rome burns.
I still prefer top notch musicians, not inept politicians, for my entertainment

Whaaaat? The people who think nothing about spunking away serious money on huge box sets of albums they already have are suddenly thinking of leaving the country?
You can't come back. The country is changing but you can only notice the change from afar.
Living amongst it makes it harder to detect.
Even if you leave for a few months, you'll come back and it still won't be the country you recognise.
This is HEALTHY because progression cannot be made with the same things happening.
You run away. I'll still here and fight to protect the NHS.
Think there's problems with the NHS? Do you even live here to use it? Well let's hope it's in some sort of useable state when you return cancerous and unloved moaning about queues of foreign people and the classic "Baht I was bleedin' born 'ere!!".

YOU run. I stay. You may know different time signatures and which bonus track you can hear Ian Anderson scratching his nuts. But it seems at the very first sign of trouble ahead it's brown trousers all around. I know who I'd rather stand with.

Easy Money wrote: Chaser wrote: A nation in decline as entertainment? Sounds like fiddling while Rome burns. I still prefer top notch musicians, not inept politicians, for my entertainment

All nations decline. Its part of the inevitable cycle. No nation on earth has ever maintained a path of permanent growth and ascendancy.

Creation and destruction go hand in hand, and it's impossible to have one without the other.

The UK is going through a period of reinvention. That process inevitably involves destruction, but out of destruction comes creation.

I'm just interested to see what phoenix emerges from the ashes.

BaldJean wrote: Great Britain is a bit shaped like a cock

Atavachron wrote: This guy Boris is interesting--  I know little about him to the extent anyone can know a politician, but he does have an air of Bill Clinton 'cool' to him.

Chaser wrote: Easy Money wrote: Chaser wrote: A nation in decline as entertainment? Sounds like fiddling while Rome burns. I still prefer top notch musicians, not inept politicians, for my entertainment All nations decline. Its part of the inevitable cycle. No nation on earth has ever maintained a path of permanent growth and ascendancy. Creation and destruction go hand in hand, and it's impossible to have one without the other. The UK is going through a period of reinvention. That process inevitably involves destruction, but out of destruction comes creation. I'm just interested to see what phoenix emerges from the ashes.

BaldJean wrote: Great Britain is a bit shaped like a cock, and Boris Johnson is nothing but a BJ for it

It's alright for you lot......you don't have to bloody well work for him

Atavachron wrote: AZF wrote: Whaaaat? The people who think nothing about spunking away serious money on huge box sets of albums they already have are suddenly thinking of leaving the country? You can't come back. The country is changing but you can only notice the change from afar. Living amongst it makes it harder to detect. Even if you leave for a few months, you'll come back and it still won't be the country you recognise. This is HEALTHY because progression cannot be made with the same things happening. You run away. I'll still here and fight to protect the NHS. Think there's problems with the NHS? Do you even live here to use it? Well let's hope it's in some sort of useable state when you return cancerous and unloved moaning about queues of foreign people and the classic "Baht I was bleedin' born 'ere!!". YOU run. I stay. You may know different time signatures and which bonus track you can hear Ian Anderson scratching his nuts. But it seems at the very first sign of trouble ahead it's brown trousers all around. I know who I'd rather stand with. Right on.   I feel the same way.   Home is home and if you leave you better be happier in your new country because you may not be able to swing coming back.   If you have a good thing goin' on, hold on to it.   Change is okay, but destruction of what you know & love is a terrible thing. Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got 'Till it's gone    -- Joni Mitchell

The last line hits home pretty hard. It's not that I suddenly dislike all the filth, the pollution, the overcrowding in India. I have lived with it all my life and like most Indians am habituated to walking with my head down (in order to avoid stepping on faeces on the street!). It's not that I was blind to its flaws but I trusted that we would gradually albeit very slowly and inefficiently do what was needed to fix our problems. But the feeling of not being able to recognize your country anymore when you are still living in it, THAT is sickening and I am putting it very mildly when I say that. Never dreamed that a day would come when my countrymen and women would venerate the guy who shot Gandhi dead whilst simultaneously berating Gandhi himself in the most vile terms. The American equivalent would be something like overturning the apotheosis of Washington and you haven't gotten there just yet. I will meet Chaser's grand experiment of shaking things up with a risk of my own. I would rather move elsewhere, even if only to be unhappy there too, because the air in here is now suffocating.