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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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Like I said. Go one beyond the genesis show and extend the hell out of Watcher. I once was drinking pre-gig in Manchester with Pallas..Crowd of about six...asking them to extend the tracks and give us pomposity and mellotron to die for...Thus .March on atlantis..extended out to 40 mins at least...best gig I ever saw...
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jamesbaldwin ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 25 2015 Location: Milano Status: Offline Points: 6052 |
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There is inspired pomposity and forced pomposity. In my opinion, the instrumental beginning of Watching is beautiful but the following does not maintain expectations. Sometimes it happens that you find an excellent instrumental passage, but then this makes, with its repetition, the song too ... caged. Another excellent example of pomposity is the solo to the organ (I guess) by Wakeman in the middle of Close to the Edge. There the effect is very pompous, it seems the sound of an organ concert in a cathedral but in my opinion it is well suited to the piece, it reaches a great pathos.
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LAM-SGC ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 26 2018 Location: se Status: Offline Points: 1550 |
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I saw a Pink Floyd tribute band do the extended songs bullsh*t once in Sweden, the whole first half of the set was songs from The Wall and TFC, and they extended almost every song sometimes by up to about 5 minutes, turning it into a kind of jazz free for all, with several instruments taking solos....it was extremely f***ing boring. People don't go to see (as in this case a sit-down concert in a theatre) a tribute band to hear extended solos, and posturing, they want to hear the songs faithfully reproduced. A cover band can do whatever they want but not a tribute band.
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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There is always some fooker who punctures the dream....
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Frenetic Zetetic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 09 2017 Location: Now Status: Offline Points: 9233 |
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I'd agree that there's a difference between a cover band and a tribute band, in regards to expectations.
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Dellinger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12802 |
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It's just about what happens with Watcher of the Skies for me too. Just give Hackett's version on Tokyo Tapes a try... somehow I do find that one so much better... warmer, and Wetton's performance much less annoying... I do love that version... I don't really understand how I can rather dislike an original and love so much a later version, specially since it's rather faithful to the original anyway. About that section on CttE, it's indeed a church organ, and when I was getting into Yes (and prog), it was one of my first albums, and that section was one of the hooks that kept me coming back to the song, until I got it and loved it all. |
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Dellinger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12802 |
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That's strange... perhaps in theory it should have worked, since Pink Floyd was very much into that (jamming and extending their songs, specially before Dark Side). But then, I guess that's what made Pink Floyd so special, being able to pull those things out. |
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progaardvark ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Sea of Peas Status: Offline Points: 52416 |
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What would probably make Watcher of the Skies better is if they inserted some part of Sussudio into the middle of it. That way you can sit there staring at a wall holding your bucket of drool and then all of sudden go into a dancing frenzy. All of this while trying to hold in a fart that you really think might be some squirts.
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![]() not Sussudio, Whodunnit
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Gerinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5154 |
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Thanks for the replies, so far. I think the tentative plan is to do the In the Cage medley like they did it on the Mama tour... (In the Cage/Cinema Show/In That Quiet Earth/The Colony of Slippermen/Afterglow).
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Barbu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 09 2005 Location: infinity Status: Offline Points: 30855 |
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Well said, snobby. |
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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I think that an extended version of Seven Stones would have been better on Selling England than the awful Collins dirge. Mind you if a tribute band played only eighties Genesis in my back garden...I would close the curtains...
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Gerinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5154 |
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If you manage to master that, kudos to you, the audience will enjoy it a lot!!
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Oh, I usually hate medleys... they just leave me wanting to hear all the songs in their complete form and end up enjoying none of the pieces of songs represented, for I get frustrated when I'm enjoying the music and it just changes to something different. That is, assuming I like all the songs represented. |
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progaardvark ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Sea of Peas Status: Offline Points: 52416 |
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That's always been the highlight of the post-70s Genesis concert. I'm sure it will be a highlight in yours too. Best of luck!
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 17972 |
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Hi,
Nahhhhh ... I'm just going to put on some Anthony Phillips ... forget Genesis!
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I'd vote for The Knife as well. It's just prog enough and just catchy enough that everyone will love it. Plus Trespass is one of my favorite albums by Genesis so it's good to keep the pre-Collins / Hackett lineup alive :)
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