Brexit: A change of heart??

Chaser wrote: Referendums are not legally binding, however, David Cameron made it clear that this was a "once in a generation vote" which would settle the issue for decades to come. To now try to re-run the vote because the ruling classes didn't get the result they wanted would completely destroy the public's already fragile faith in democracy in our country. The result must stand, for good or for bad, and only time will tell which it is

He did indeed, although I think it constituted the biggest political miscalculation of the 21st century (so far) Cameron misjudged the British Zeitgeist, and was convinced Remain would win the vote. He called that referendum for purely selfish reasons; to make it appear he was 'listening' the British people, and that was the problem, he didn't really know what was going on in his own country.

So many Conservative resignations today I'm minded of the Monty Python sketch about two men in an office seeing people fall by their window and betting with each other which chairman will be next

https://youtu.be/EjBt5XpEezk

Edited by AZF - November 15 2018 at 08:02

A total mess. But then the voters voted for no clear leadership at the last general election, and that's exactly what we've got.

There's no-one in UK politics who can sort this mess out.  Jeremy Corbyn is definitely not the answer.  He might be the answer to the UK's immigration worries.  If he becomes PM I think a large part of the UK population will be emigrating, myself included, so we'll have net emigration which should please the anti-immigration brigade.

The problem is:

The British people voted for Brexit.

Whether you think that was a wise decision or a foolish decision the problem was that the Brexit architects then walked off the stage and left it to people who didn't really believe in Brexit to deliver it.

The result is what we've got: a complete dogs dinner.

Icarium wrote: Norway is not in the EU yet we stil has to aplie EUregulations in our day-to-day life, like taxation and fees.

Indeed you do, which is the reason why die hard Brexiters would never accept a Norway type arrangement in the EEA, but die hard Remainers would be perfectly happy with it as the nearest thing to staying in.

With this, as with everything else to do with the EU and Brexit, the U.K. Is absolutely split down the middle, with neither side capable of compromise, because they hold such opposing views.

Cameron will go down as one of the worst Prime Ministers in Britain's history for prompting this unutterable mess (whether you are a leaver or remainer). Both sides told the most awful lies in the referendum, and, equally, most politicians completely misjudged the mood of an electorate utterly fed up with those who they saw responsible for the relative income poverty they found themselves suffering from as a result of globalisation and other dopey political and economic systems.

As a long standing fan of Private Eye, and a long suffering civil servant working for incompetent governments of all colours, all I can do is stand back and admire the sheer incompetence at play here.

Crimson put it well, actually. Confusion will be my epitaph, as I cross a cracked and broken path. If we make it, we can all sit back and laugh, but I fear tomorrow I'll be crying......

Uncertain times, indeed.

yeah.. following this in that interested yet distracted way...  it does seem like this is going to be one hell of a trainwreck.  It really does some in UK are in big need of a reality check, they have little to no leverage short of dancing on a cliff that can hurt the EU badly but wreck the UK, and it does seem the EU is holding firm to its lines in the sand and will be giving it to them.  

For another perspective which i find interesting but by no means have concluded to be regarded as absolute fact, this show with Webster Tarpley tackles the idea that the idea of the whole Brexit thing was for the UK to buddy up with China and sort of become the Switzerland banking haven for its wealth accumulation. 

As an American, it seems to me that Brexit was caused by the same nationalist tendencies that our idiot president, the Mango Mussolini, is railing on about, all part of a surge of alt-right partisanship across Europe and the U.S.

[QUOTE=siLLy puPPy]For another perspective which i find interesting but by no means have concluded to be regarded as absolute fact, this show with Webster Tarpley tackles the idea that the idea of the whole Brexit thing was for the UK to buddy up with China and sort of become the Switzerland banking haven for its wealth accumulation.