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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15141 |
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PS: As I don't esteem Trevor Rabin very highly as a guitarist (and I'm not even saying this as a huge Yes fan), AFlowerKingCrimson has a point there - compared to him I certainly underappreciate that guy. (It's fun strengthening your nomination by disagreeing with it.
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flyingveepixie ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 23 2015 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 146 |
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Or perhaps the term is best expressed as a function of album sales which is the only real and true measure of both appreciation and success....??
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15141 |
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I don't think so. If people buy a Yes album with Trevor Rabin on it, this doesn't mean that they think he is a top guitarist. There are all kinds of other reasons to buy an album. Some people even might buy a Steve Hackett album because they like his songs and musical style rather than being interested in guitar skills.
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18890 |
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Thanks for sharing your views. Album sales are mostly irrelevant in my opinion since we are talking about individual musicians. Anyway, I suppose we all have our own opinions and criteria for what we consider under-appreciated. All the guitarists I mentioned are in my opinion more under appreciated than Steve Howe and Steve Hackett who I both feel are vastly under appreciated in non prog circles so now maybe you can get a sense for why I chose all of these guitarists.
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Underrated? I don't know but I go with Dave Gregory.
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^ Excellent choice! Andy Partridge is a bit underrated too IMO.
Good call on Justin Hayward back there; most often celebrated for his vocals and songwriting, but he could play some real tasty guitar. Ok, how 'bout Pye Hastings?
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I'll go with Jean and say Roman Bunka of Embryo. Such a great guitar player, and he plays the oud too! And his first solo album "Dein Kopf ist ein schlafendes Auto" is one of the very best albums of the 80s and among my personal favorites. And no-one but Jean and me ever mentions him, which is an absolute shame. You guys should most definitely listen to the examples Jean gave in her post. Someone named Eddy Marron which is not a bad call either.
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Two already mentioned....Mike Holmes and Dave Gregory.
Not sure if he's underrated but Donald 'buck dharma' Roeser from BOC....at least I don't see him on many lists. |
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Buck's not an unknown, but he's definitely UNDERappreciated! IMO, he's a lead guitarist who can hang with just about anybody, but unlike most (and like his contemporary Ronnie Montrose), he's a master of tone and melodicism. And these new young rock guitarists — sheesh, they can't play a solo if you spray WD-40 all over their fretboards. |
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Speaking of German guitarists(at least I assume the guy from Embryo is German)I would like to nominate Manuel Gottsching from Ash Ra Tempel and also a solo artist. I think he's almost the textbook definition of an under rated guitarist.
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My favorite underappreciated guitarist isn't even a prog guy. He's Pat McManus of Mama's Boys fame! The man's talent is immense. He's literally Gary Moore II!
The McManus brothers (Pat, John, Tommy) were born into a family of musicians. At a young age, he was a champion fiddler in his neck o' the woods in Ireland. Pat and his sister went and saw Horslips live and were blown away by their inventive fusion of Celtic and rock styles. Inspired like a fire tornado to move into the realm of electricity, Pat shifted to guitar and "appointed" his John as bassist-vocalist and Tommy (R.I.P.) as drummer. They first called themselves Pulse and then changed the name of their band to Mama's Boys. They enjoyed some modest success in the U.K. but never really clicked in the States. They did, and do, have a loyal following. Their first several albums as a trio are some of the finest hard rock I've ever heard. Mama's Boys opened for Thin Lizzy on occasion. I'm shocked Phil didn't try to lure Pat to Thin Lizzy. A quartet featuring both Pat and John Sykes on lead guitar probably would've been too much. They'd have left every venue in a shambles! But I'm glad the McManus clan remained intact up to a point, because those early Mama's Boys records are dynamite.
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Manuel's awesome! His lines on Ashra's Correlations just sizzle.
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Roman Bunka is the son of a German diplomat and grew up in Beirut. He also took part in Embryo's famous trip to Pakistan and India. This is why there are a lot of Arabic and Indian influences in his playing, which makes him in my opinion one of the most interesting guitarists out there. He definitely deserves more recognition.
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I think it goes without saying that Edgar is likewise underappreciated in the realm of guitar.
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my god you are so hot.. not sure if it is those socks you are wearing.. or simply your taste in music
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for me... the god of the Fender Strat... Hughie Thomasson.
even if you don't recognize the name.. you would recognize his signature greatness. The long standing #1 Mick ranked Blow thy Speaker song ever... |
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Hm Ive never been into the "guitar-virtuoso" and generally considered the guitarist to be overappreciated. I do love good riffing and a genuine, egoless and attentive bandplayer. When it comes to soloing I seem to prefer the ones creating soundscapes and modes over the frenetic noodlers and the supermelodic ones. Early Terje Rypdal is my ideal guitarist and while he is well respected musician not all that appreciated on PA.
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Tony MacAlpine . . Edited by dwill123 - October 22 2018 at 18:36 |
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