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    Posted: October 20 2018 at 23:23
Let me start...  Prog has many under-appreciated musicians, and being a guitarist myself, I tend to gravitate to that instrument.

One of my favorite under-appreciated prog guitarists is the Moody Blues' Justin Hayward!  He wrung an incredible sound from his Gibson ES-335, and is not often mentioned in the polls dominated by Howe, Hackett, Fripp etc.! 

Here's a nice one of his!  Who is your suggested under-appreciated guitarist?  (please, just name one, not a whole list!)




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most definitely Roman Bunka.



go to 33:54 in this example and you can hear why.

or listen to this:


or this:


or watch this video:



this is some excellent and highly original guitar playing


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Eddy Marron! He was responsible for some astonishing playing in Vita Nova, Dzyan, Missus Beastly, Free Sound, and Giger Lenz Marron, yet is unjustly obscured and under the radar for so many.




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John Mitchell. Although a multi-instrumentalist, vocalist and producer; his guitar work with Arena, It Bites, Frost*' Kino, Lonely Robot or even as guest guitarist on other artist's work, is always immaculate, varied and nuanced. His solos are never flashy or intricate just for the sake of it - adding atmosphere and impact to songs. He produces a lovely emotional tone when needed, but can also provide a unselfish, solid background to let other prog musicians soar.
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I have several which I may list later but my favorite under-appreciated guitarist is easily Frank Gambale.  Most known for his stint with Chick Corea Elektric Band and Chick Corea's RTFIV.  Here is a guitar performance from his web site.
 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Steve Rothery
Hmm...I'm not quite sure if Rothery is unappreciated or just unknown outside of prog circles.
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Although not a progger, William Reid of The Jesus and Mary Chain.  Reid's control of feedback, multitude of riffs and melodic leads to die for plus a highly varied approach.     William probably couldn't replicate a Dream Theater lead but William wrote some of my favorite guitar music.   

I'm a Mick Ronson fan too.   He could sure play guitar.    Lindsey Buckingham also is underrated. 


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Good call on Justin Hayward (from the Moody Blues) Also:

Peter Banks (original Yes guitarist)
Andy Latimer (Camel)
Mike Holmes (IQ)
Anthony Phillips (very early Genesis and solo)
Jan Akkerman (Focus)
Alan Morse (Spock's Beard)
Rich Berends (Mastermind)
Ed Wynne (Ozric Tentacles)
Rich Williams/Kerry Livgren (Kansas)
Alex Lifeson (Rush and yes I do feel he is underappreciated to an extent)
Trevor Rabin (Doesn't get the respect he deserves from some yes fans so I throw him in here as well)
Martin Barre (Jethro Tull)
Roye Albrighton (RIP) (Nektar)

Of course there are plenty of others as well.








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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Steve Rothery
Hmm...I'm not quite sure if Rothery is unappreciated or just unknown outside of prog circles.

I would say both. I would probably list him myself but since he was already mentioned I'll just second it. 
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Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

I have several which I may list later but my favorite under-appreciated guitarist is easily Frank Gambale.  Most known for his stint with Chick Corea Elektric Band and Chick Corea's RTFIV.  Here is a guitar performance from his web site.
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OP here, thanks, good stuff, keep it up!!  

In honor of our own PresDoug, I'll nominate Helmut Köllen from Triumvirate!! 

Like Greg Lake, he was an excellent plectrum-style bassist who also excelled on 6-string!!  Sadly, he passed away far too young. 

Doug once sent me Helmut's solo CD, which was excellent!!  Thanks, Doug!! Clap
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Originally posted by ReactioninG ReactioninG wrote:

Ian Bairnson

Yep. Played with the Alan Parsons Project and was also on Jon Anderson's "Song of Seven" album.
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

OP here, thanks, good stuff, keep it up!!  

In honor of our own PresDoug, I'll nominate Helmut Köllen from Triumvirate!! 

Like Greg Lake, he was an excellent plectrum-style bassist who also excelled on 6-string!!  Sadly, he passed away far too young. 

Doug once sent me Helmut's solo CD, which was excellent!!  Thanks, Doug!! Clap
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Good call on Justin Hayward (from the Moody Blues) Also:

Peter Banks (original Yes guitarist)
Andy Latimer (Camel)
Mike Holmes (IQ)
Anthony Phillips (very early Genesis and solo)
Jan Akkerman (Focus)
Alan Morse (Spock's Beard)
Rich Berends (Mastermind)
Ed Wynne (Ozric Tentacles)
Rich Williams/Kerry Livgren (Kansas)
Alex Lifeson (Rush and yes I do feel he is underappreciated to an extent)
Trevor Rabin (Doesn't get the respect he deserves from some yes fans so I throw him in here as well)
Martin Barre (Jethro Tull)
Roye Albrighton (RIP) (Nektar)

Of course there are plenty of others as well.








Lifeson, Rabin and Barre have between them sold well in excess of 100 million albums.

Rabin is also a fabulously successful composer of Hollywood film scores and the single "Lift me up"  which Rabin co wrote with Squire for the album "Union" spent 6 weeks at the number one position on the billboard album rock tracks chart. 

Latimer also clocks up album sales in the multiple millions. 

Justin Hayward has recently been inducted into the Rock and Roll hall of fame.

Jan Akkerman was well appreciated as a guitarist in the 70s and Focus even had commercial singles success completely outside the sphere of prog or fusion. 




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That's the problem with a term such as "under-appreciated"; people interpret it differently and it is subjective in a weird way because it is not only about assessing one's own opinion but also about the opinions of other people. It may mean "almost unknown" but on the other hand if you think that Andy Latimer is the number one guitarist in prog then you could legitimately claim he is under-appreciated despite him being quite well appreciated overall... one could also argue that it is entirely different from "unknown" and rather means "better than people think" which is an empty statement as long as somebody is unknown so not many people think anything about this person.

Some guitarists that for me a really among the very best in prog and generally are Adrian Belew, Fred Frith and Peter Wolbrandt (of Kraan). All of these are more or less well known and even well appreciated, but you'd probably find them on few top 10 lists of guitarists and they'd certainly feature on mine.


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