is Toyah prog-related ? - Progressive Rock Music Forum

She's pop and proud of it for gods sake.

Ian

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^ I edited your post to a hyperlink as you shouldn't try to embed videos like that any longer (changed quite a long time ago). The video won't show up, and it will try to install flash objects on the computer, harmless, but some people have mistaken those for viruses.

When you embed, you put the tube tags only surrounding the unique identifier (the combination of letters and numbers after v=, which in that case is oaf4JD4xw3A).

So instead of, I'm adding spaces to break it
[tube ] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaf4JD4xw3A [/ tube] , you use
[tube ]oaf4JD4xw3A [/ tube]
(without the spaces to make it clear for others that may not know how to do it).

^ I didn't take it that you were requesting inclusion, and get that it was about discussion, but just to set the record straight on our additions process (even if it doesn't really need straightening). Incidentally, I'm not that familiar with Toyah, so I don't have much to add to any Toyah discussion, but it seemed an excellent post of yours vivoactive. It might be one that we should consider for addition, by the way (would want to familiarise myself with past topics and it may have been formally considered before).

Cristi wrote:

There are no more prog related additions, so just forget about it. :)

Maybe you are being rather tongue-in-cheek, but we haven't stopped allowing Prog Related additions (at least not that I've heard). It's not easy getting into the category generally and it should be for exceptional cases. For any who wish to formally propose a band or artist for Prog Related or Proto Prog, a case should be made for it fitting as many of the factors mentioned in the Prog Related Definition (CLICK) , a thread with a good argument plus lots of relevant samples if possible in Suggest New Bands and Artists should be made (links to info and music is good) CLICK for more info , and technically a Special Collaborator should back the addition and be willing to do the addition if accepted. It helps if the suggested in Suggest New Bands and Artists topic gets lots of support (and it helps to correlate all past topics on it if we're not looking at new material to get a wide variety of thoughts).

For those that haven't read it and are considering formally suggesting new bands or artists to Prog Related, here is the officialProg Related Submissions Policy (CLICK)

There's quite a lot of music that I consider to be Prog Related that is not in this site, but that doesn't mean that I think that it should be included. A lot of what I consider to be Prog Related does not tick enough boxes, so just because I consider something to be Prog Related does not mean that I think it fits the category really well.

Anyway, back to the Toyah discussion.

Logan wrote:

^ I edited your post to a hyperlink as you shouldn't try to embed videos like that any longer (changed quite a long time ago). The video won't show up, and it will try to install flash objects on the computer, harmless, but some people have mistaken those for viruses.

When you embed, you put the tube tags only surrounding the unique identifier (the combination of letters and numbers after v=, which in that case is oaf4JD4xw3A).

So instead of, I'm adding spaces to break it
[tube ] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaf4JD4xw3A [/ tube] , you use
[tube ]oaf4JD4xw3A [/ tube]
(without the spaces to make it clear for others that may not know how to do it).

Thanks for letting me know...tried it the way you suggested but the vid won't play Confused

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Logan wrote:

I edited it to fix it. There was URL code in the post, so I guess when you edited it, my hyperlinking (the url tags) was left in.

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Logan wrote:

^ I didn't take it that you were requesting inclusion, and get that it was about discussion, but just to set the record straight on our additions process (even if it doesn't really need straightening). Incidentally, I'm not that familiar with Toyah, so I don't have much to add to any Toyah discussion, but it seemed an excellent post of yours vivoactive. It might be one that we should consider for addition, by the way (would want to familiarise myself with past topics and it may have been formally considered before).

Some very kind words here! I have been reading Prog Archives for years and finally registered.

As for Toyah, being the wife of the King Crimson mastermind, Robert Fripp, is a good criteria. I also did not mention her collaboration with Fripp and The League of Crafty Guitarists on "The Lady Or The Tiger", thanks for reminding me, moshkito. I might suggest Toyah as an addition.

I will give some examples of proggy tracks by Toyah:

Ophelia's Shadow shows the amazing vocals of Toyah. Unlike her first albums where she often screams and shouts (in a punkish way), and unlike her pop stuff where she just sings, here you can hear her amazing feminine vocals. Since it is not available on YouTube (it has been blocked for unknown reasons), I am posting a Deezer link. The entire album is worth it and there is no single filler track. However, I do not think this is an easy album to get into. The keyboard intro of the title track (Ophelia's Shadow) is played by Gordon Haskell (who also played on "In The Wake Of Poseidon" and "Lizard" by King Crimson. At the end of the album, the track Lords Of The Never Known, features a piano solo by Keith Tippett which is amazing imo. The tracks "Brilliant Day" and "Lords of the never known" are outtakes from Toyah and Robert Fripp's band "Sunday All Over The World".

https://www.deezer.com/us/album/11310322

"Kneeling Through The Shrine" by Sunday All Over The World is nice too. The band's first name was Fripp Fripp. My favourite tracks are "If I Were A Man" and "Answered With A Smile".

Here are the two prog tracks I have mentioned: Tony Banks - Lion Of Symmetry and Trey Gunn - Symbiotic. Amazing vocals!

"We Are The Humans" by The Humans is an interesting tracks, at first it reminded me of Lisa Dalbello (any fans?)

Here is also her collaboration with Robert Fripp on "The Lady Or The Tiger". I have never paid attention to it, but hey, there is Fripp!

This year Toyah released an EP "Four From Toyah (birthday Edition)" which I downloaded and put on my phone. When shuffling the song "Who Let The Beast Out" played and at first I thought it was a Rush song. It might sound nothing like Rush but that was my first association. Again I am posting a Dizzer link, because it is unavailable on YT.

https://www.deezer.com/us/album/63627752

And last but not least, I want to post two songs from the Dreamchild/Eternity sessions. I have already postet "Satellite Whores" which is nice indeed, the second part is really interesting. Now I am posting "Dreamchild" and "Phoenix". Phoenix features these jazz elements which made me love it.

These songs have a very low sound quality there... well... it is better than nothing.

And right before I decided to finish my post I saw the track "Tone Poem" in the YouTube search results. Alright, that track IS amazing!

This "Hello I am Toyah Willcox" is not available on the album version of the song. This might be sort of a radio rip.

Hope you will enjoy the beautiful proggy wife. Still, I am not a really big fan but some songs by Toyah are just amazing! That said... Yeah, I am definitely into Toyah.

Thanks for such a thoughtful post, vivoactive. Just for my own pleasure (at least at this time), I will be listening to the music you posted.

Really unrelated, but one of my favourites into Post-Punk and synth avenues is Phew.