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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2018 at 08:01
^ I had chance, Saperlipopette!,to listen to all of those, at least in part, and lovely and charming music.

Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

A favourite of mine.

Nick Drake's "Riverman":



A perfect song IMO. The combination of Drake's guitar and voice, the brilliant Robert Kirby string arrangement and that unfathomable lyric...true greatness.

I was pretty much obsessed with Nick Drake for a couple of years in my late teens.


River Man is sublime. I so wish things had turned out differently for him. His life was far too short. His struggle is one that I can relate to, and that makes his music all the more meaningful to me.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2018 at 11:26
^ I'm also a big fan of Drake........never considered him wyrd or strange  folk  but he was one of the best at doing those subtle folk rock things.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2018 at 15:08
I was thinking that "River Man" would be "related" enough for this topic as the "chamber folk" qualities would be likely to appeal to quite a few who are into various Acid Folk acts (such as Perry Leopold, Spirogyra, the also haunting Comus' The Herald, Linda Perhacs etc.), as well as to a wider folk music audience.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2019 at 13:11
I know I did another folk thread focusing on fragile, melancholic, gentle suggestions (some may remember it ;) ) and one will see some overlap with this topic, but I wanted to revive this topic to get more into the discussion of psych folk, freak, wyrd folk and related music that you may feel not intrinsically to be any of those, but you think would be likely to appeal to people into such music.
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It doesn't get any pscyhier, freakiery or wyrder folk than COMUS' First Utterance. 



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2019 at 17:31
One of the least known that I know are the great original folk/electronic duo Solarference from Bristol that should have far more fans.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Polymorphia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2019 at 17:59
I like a fair amount of leftfield folk, including a lot of names in this thread, but here are a few more recent ones I haven't seen mentioned:

Richard Dawson immediately comes to mind as a successor of Comus, Spirogyra, Incredible String Band, with his album Peasant incorporating neo-medieval influences to his off-kilter English-traditional-folk-inspired sound:

Kim Myhr is one of my favorite guitarists active. The things he can do with an acoustic guitar boggle my mind. He comes from more of an avant-garde/New Music background, but his music should please many free folk and chamber folk enthusiasts. 

Crescent is most known for their brand of melancholy indie rock and post-rock, but, in 2003, they released By the Roads and the Fields, featuring psychedelic acoustic guitar led songs that fall into a particular twilit crevice in the mind that few pieces of music occupy. Lots of influence from Zen in the lyrics, it seems:

Gjallarhorn is traditional Nordic Folk with a... digeridoo. And sometimes mandolin. Even though it's heavily rooted in Nordic Folk traditions it reaches to other traditions, much like ISB does, and fills a certain pagan folk void that much of the psych stuff doesn't:



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snicolette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2019 at 18:34
I like that Gjallarhorn a lot...Sounds like a nyckelharpa there.  Haven't had a chance to look them up for their instrumentation.  Pretty cool traditional stuff.  There is a big resurgence of interest in Nordic folk music amongst the trad folk of late.  Just looked them up, it's a Hardanger fiddle.  Cool sound.  Almost electric sounding, like a hurdy gurdy sounds almost plugged in.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote someone_else Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2019 at 23:54
Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

A favourite of mine.

Nick Drake's "Riverman":



A perfect song IMO. The combination of Drake's guitar and voice, the brilliant Robert Kirby string arrangement and that unfathomable lyric...true greatness.

I was pretty much obsessed with Nick Drake for a couple of years in my late teens.
 

Unlike the other songs on Five Leaves Left, this brilliant string arrangement was not by Robert Kirby, but by Harry Robertson.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2019 at 06:40
^^^ Tony (Polymorphia), that is an awesome post, thank you so much (beautifully presented). That Richard Dawson can be so off-kilter, and with interesting contrasts, in such a unique and I find truly engaging way. I had caught some music of his before, and I want to get his Peasant album now. I'm now tempted to do a Peasant vs. The Pheasant poll. ;)



I enjoyed all of that very much

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Polymorphia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2019 at 18:05
^Thanks, Greg. Was big into stuff like this when I joined the site and my interested in it returned in the past couple of years, so I definitely have more to post. Speaking of:

I mentioned Mount Eerie in the other thread. Phil Elverum has flirted with and gone all the way with, at times, avant-folk and pysch folk both as Mount Eerie and in his former band The Microphones. The album Mount Eerie by the Microphones (confusing, I know) is a good example. He kind of sits between Sufjan Stevens and David Tibet (even having Tibet's darkness and atmosphere at the beginning of this decade with Wind's Poem, Ocean's Roar, and Clear Moon).

Robbie Basho is known most as John Fahey's Hindustani-influenced American Primitivist compadre, but imo he fits in like a glove here. Also, his guitar work is to die for. 

James Blakeshaw, of course, deserves a mention, being heavily influenced by Basho and also being on Current 93 records.

And to end with another traditional-not-traditional rec, you have Kíla, a Celtic folk band from Ireland who uses more progressive structures and draws from other traditional folk musics aside from Celtic and is one of the few folk bands I've heard rival Comus in intensity. The title track of Luna Park is one of my favorite tracks period. 




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snicolette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2019 at 18:30
More listening for the growing lists....Am familiar with Robbie Basho, but many of these look intriguing!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2019 at 05:59
I know Robbie Basho very well, and very worth mentioning (I mentioned him briefly in the thread before, but I had no links to his music) (I'd known music of his for longer, but I was on a big Basho kick about a year ago). Of the others, I really like Cross.

Some of these might have been mentioned already, I'm just waking up.

A favourite of mine (terry Callier's Occasional Rain from 1972):



Akron - Family



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Admirals Hard
Arch Garrison
Stars in Battledress
The Unthanks
Circulus
Kate Rusby
Lady Maisery


The only old name I will mention is that of the sadly now largely forgotten  Anne Briggs. For some, I need say no more. For others, Google and Spotify. The purest voice you will ever hear, still gives me goosebumps.  She started singing and gigging as a teen in the late 50s. She recorded a total of about 30 songs. But she came to hate recording and hated the sound of her own voice. Then in 1971 aged only 27 she stopped and kind of became a recluse. She was the influence for so many other female folk singers back in the day.





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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BarryGlibb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2019 at 14:40
Originally posted by LAM-SGC LAM-SGC wrote:

Admirals Hard
Arch Garrison
Stars in Battledress
The Unthanks
Circulus
Kate Rusby
Lady Maisery


The only old name I will mention is that of the sadly now largely forgotten  Anne Briggs. For some, I need say no more. For others, Google and Spotify. The purest voice you will ever hear, still gives me goosebumps.  She started singing and gigging as a teen in the late 50s. She recorded a total of about 30 songs. But she came to hate recording and hated the sound of her own voice. Then in 1971 aged only 27 she stopped and kind of became a recluse. She was the influence for so many other female folk singers back in the day.





Apparently Anne Briggs is the basis for the Richard Thompson song Beeswing below..beautiful track one of RT's best



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And coincidentally that is the only RT album I own.  
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I know Akron/Family. Been meaning to revisit them. That Fahey tribute album is one I should check out. I have long known and loved the Sujfan track on there. 

Last year, David Garland released a 4-hour electroacoustic chamber folk mammoth Verdancy. It strikes me as sort of a folk version of Jim O'Rourke's Eureka. It can be a bit sweet at times, but there's not a moment on the record that isn't crafted with care, and the moments that venture into more experimental territory are exhilerating. I'm mainly posting "Periodicity" for length's sake, but the best tracks are the lengthier ones which make use of his "modified guitar" in which "electronics... provoke the vibration of wire and wood," producing resonant tones and feedback which give his performances a droning ambient feel. 

Of course, you have Natural Snow Buildings and TwinSisterMoon (a member of NSB) who create a special kind of lo-fi drone avant-folk. I prefer TwinSisterMoon's solo work, so I will post this song from The Hollowed Mountain: 

Then there's Spires That in The Sunset Rise, who get even stranger than NSB, evoking some of the "witchiness" 

You also have Greg Malcolm and his album Some Other Time, full of highly experimental semi-improvisatory drone folk:

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Has Changes been mentioned yet? Predecessor to neofolk (first album was released in the 90s, but recorded in the late 60s/70s)

And then there's this gem:

People interested in this category should check out this RYM list:

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2019 at 12:59
^^ I have TwinSisterMoon's The Hollow Mountain, like it very much. Love "Periodicity", the Greg Malcollm, and well, all great, enjoyable for me stuff you've mentioned.

And thanks for the RYM "folk horror in music" list. That should be a good resource. I'm a big fan of folk horror film and TV (especially The Wicker Man in film and Children of the Stones in TV), and had made a long poll some months back which took me a long time to compile which I lost to Captcha (neglected to save my work properly).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2019 at 06:19
Meg Baird:



More Buffy Sainte-Marie:



Oh, and also off Buffy Sainte-Marie's 1967 album Fire & Fleet & Candlelight, I want to mention "Reynardine - A Vampire Legend" from the original Buffy the Vampire Slayer, if only to make such a poor joke.



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